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There are plenty to thank for our turn around. Jack Viney made his team mates change by showing them how to tackle. They all got on board. We stopped being bruise free 2 years ago.

Toumtracca's issue isnt lack of confidence. Its too much.

Frost is exactly like one of those young running types who get your spot when you are old and slow. At training they kick it toward you and its such an ugly crap kick that by the time youve retrieved it, they are screaming for a handball so they can kick it out of bounds. No football skills. #still whinging.

Frost - Not this year

I hope to see him in Caseys best over the next couple of weeks. I think there could be a permanent spot in 5 or 6 rounds even with Max going well. What he does well, rucking and bullocking, is worth more than Pedos skills and Frosts speed..

Thanks JC I actually played footy where this happened a lot. Not to me by guys as big as Alex Rance but i dont need to experiment any further.

Sorry Ethan Im sure youd know what its like to lie face down on the grass though.

Yes I accept that it deserved 2 weeks. Penalties being what they are now, he had to go. I Still am worried about my 81-1 on Viney for Brownlow but I wouldnt have him any other way.

I didnt think it was that bad after Jack Watts got up ok. I thought it was a free and to be honest thought Viney's response while great might be judged over compensating. It seems most D'landers think it was much worse.

6 Viney 5 Gawn 4 McDonald 3 Vince 2 Watts 1 Kent

Rance hit the deck faster than Sonny Liston

I find Harmes looking to hit up Hogan more exciting.

I got it wrong. I didnt think Jack would come good. Im very happy the wait was worth it. Id be gnashing my teeth if JW had been traded and this form was being enjoyed by another team.

My hatred of umpires gifting Hawthorn with Free kicks is inflamed by Fox commentators agreeing with them.

Wagner was ok but no-one expected more than that. Petracca might very well be fit enough. Sure it is a gamble but so is Jeffy's ankle, Frost Vs Pederson. The potential upside of CP5 outweighs the doubts for me.I understand not exposing kids too early but he is fast and built like an outhouse. I also see they may have decided that Brayshaw was underdone, but that shouldnt make the coaches flinch if they do believe he is up to it. I hope he is, he hits targets.

He may be slightly uderdone but its time to give the Tracc a run in the 1sts. If Wagner got a ride of the Valkyries I reckon there is more to gain than lose by holding him back now.

I understand Hogan played a fair bit a Centre half Back as a junior. He definitely needs to get out of the goal square and be at CHF or CHB. He has to: Move the ball quickly- no hand movements to players when he has a free or a mark No playing for frees even if they are there, no talk back to umpires Get on his bike

Lumumba seems to think his role is over as soon as he kicks it. He does gain yardage but his inability to kick through the middle of the ball to the advantage of a team mate is just not there. I havent ever seen it. He kicks in not even hope, he just gets rid of it. As has been said loudly (to me, in the past) "Would you hand ball to a non existent target? Would you D!ckhead?, then dont kick to one!"

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I think Jeff Garlett is a big key to this game, we need to out think the strategies teams may bring to keep him under wraps. I wouldnt be surprised if he cops quite a few jumper punches early on to upset him.

That is one tough handshake. How good is this kid? Go Clarry!

These are the different levels I think about this game: We can pick from a nearly full list. We still have Petracca and others (lesser but still) to come back. The team we pick will be full of confidence and have won a couple of Nab cup games together. Pre-season normally leaves me upbeat then broken with a taste of salt and iron in my mouth; it'll crush me this year if yet again, there is no fool like an old fool. Jack Watts will be my preferred Centre Half forward if he repeats his last couple of games and is staunch. We are up against another real up and come-er.

I dont ever trawl through other posters carp, but this is quite an exception.

GWS says he is right to go. I hope Im overestimating Mumfords fitness. I think he is a champ.

3 quarter time and the Giants have cut back the Demons lead to 8 points... Every eye is on Max Gawn bent over sucking in the big ones. Jonesy Bernie and Brayshaw all talking quietly to him. Roos is calm and smiling, Goodwin wanting to say something but looks imploringly at Roos. Roos nods and Oliver who had only played 20 minutes so far is starting in the middle. Crowd is quiet. Richmond station master is aware its 3 quarter time and wonders where the normal crowd is...