Pies still look like a great pressure side this year. Despite their outs they are defending desparetely.

No Marshall against us is handy.

Umpires really poor tonight missing absolute no brainers

1 minute ago, 3KZ is Football said:

I will be very disappointed if we cannot match the Saints next week, as long as the TEAM has the right mindset...

we'll run out of legs i think - 2 preseason hitouts followed by 1 real game vs 1 and a bit preseason games will be telling

St Kilda are playing horrible footy

Pies missing plenty of players

Saints still have no skill or awareness or maturity

Outside of NWM, the Saints don't look like they're much chop.

Their forward line might be worse than ours.

On a side note, Pendles is still a gun.

Gee, Liam Ryan is a frustrating watch. Kicked the miracle boundary set shot but missed the gimme.

Looks like he has all the talent in the world but has never kick more than 30+ goals in a season more than once.

3 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

we'll run out of legs i think - 2 preseason hitouts followed by 1 real game vs 1 and a bit preseason games will be telling

Serious Week on the Track coming up

Hopefully the Saints will be Heartbroken after all the Hype…

7 minutes ago, GS_1905 said:

Danger by a mile.

Interesting! Why do you say that?

Darcy Wilson is a shadow of the player he was in his debut season.

This game is showing you need more than pressure. There has to be class on the outside to deliver good quality when pressing forward. Both the Saints and the Blues look like their A game is pressure, pressure, pressure but have neither a plan B or enough class.

Saints look like they've done the old 'promise the world and deliver an atlas'

Boring last quarter

Seriously this season is now just too long with too many over hyped AFL/TV promoted games

Punting Steele when you have Boxshall, Macrae, Garcia still running around in your best 22 is interesting

You could put Ross Lyon the coach of the all Australian squad and he would still manage to get them to lose.

What a laugh St Kilda are.

15 minutes ago, DubDee said:

St Kilda are playing horrible footy

Pies missing plenty of players

Saints still have no skill or awareness or maturity

Money doesn’t fix everything. They’re a lost cause.

I cannot understand you have that many coaches in a coaching box, and not one person would say, "Let's man up a bit" in the forward line. The Pies' rebound off the backline is their strength, allowing guys like Daicos and Pendlebury to be able to run free. It is just stupidity. I'm sure sides will address it sooner rather than later.

N Daicos 41 disposals

6 contested

What a [censored]

With the new stats he will get an undeserved 3 votes. He should get 1 maybe

But umpires will look at stats and see 41 disposals

Radical idea- what if they his disposal counts, that way it is less bias. Still show contested possessions marks goals etc not disposals, that way umps can still have an opinion and nothing disposals aren’t rewarded. Curious to hear thoughts

3 minutes ago, Maldonboy38 said:

This game is showing you need more than pressure. There has to be class on the outside to deliver good quality when pressing forward. Both the Saints and the Blues look like their A game is pressure, pressure, pressure but have neither a plan B or enough class.

Agreed. Both teams have crazy skilled players in Saad and Hill, but the criticism of these players is they don’t have composure.

Skill without composure and you’re just another player.

ROUND 0	W	L	D	FOR	AGST	%	PTS
SYDNEY SWANS	1	0	0	132	69	191.30	4
GOLD COAST	1	0	0	125	69	181.16	4
GWS GIANTS	1	0	0	122	95	128.42	4
COLLINGWOOD	1	0	0	78	66	118.18	4
WESTERN BULLDOGS	1	0	0	111	106	104.72	4
BRISBANE LIONS	0	1	0	106	111	95.50	0
ST KILDA	0	1	0	66	78	84.62	0
HAWTHORN	0	1	0	95	122	77.87	0
GEELONG	0	1	0	69	125	55.20	0
CARLTON	0	1	0	69	132	52.27	0
ADELAIDE	0	0	0	0	0	0.00	0
ESSENDON	0	0	0	0	0	0.00	0
FREMANTLE	0	0	0	0	0	0.00	0
MELBOURNE	0	0	0	0	0	0.00	0
NORTH MELBOURNE	0	0	0	0	0	0.00	0
PORT ADELAIDE	0	0	0	0	0	0.00	0
RICHMOND	0	0	0	0	0	0.00	0
WEST COAST	0	0	0	0	0	0.00	0

1 minute ago, Rooooooooooo said:

N Daicos 41 disposals

6 contested

What a [censored]

With the new stats he will get an undeserved 3 votes. He should get 1 maybe

But umpires will look at stats and see 41 disposals

Radical idea- what if they his disposal counts, that way it is less bias. Still show contested possessions marks goals etc not disposals, that way umps can still have an opinion and nothing disposals aren’t rewarded. Curious to hear thoughts

Now I phrased this poorly but please don’t get me wrong. Daicos is an incredible player, imo the 2nd or 3rd best currently. I just think he shouldn’t be rewarded for all of these nothing possesions. His disposal efficiency was also down today which was a frustrating watch. Bit to clarify. Daicos with the ball is a master. Without is hes useless

2 minutes ago, Rooooooooooo said:

N Daicos 41 disposals

6 contested

What a [censored]

With the new stats he will get an undeserved 3 votes. He should get 1 maybe

But umpires will look at stats and see 41 disposals

Radical idea- what if they his disposal counts, that way it is less bias. Still show contested possessions marks goals etc not disposals, that way umps can still have an opinion and nothing disposals aren’t rewarded. Curious to hear thoughts

Are you watching the telecast Jason Dunstall, Leigh Matthew’s and Nathan Buckley singing his praises, they may know a bit about the game.

The kid changes the game with his ball use, it’s not just cheap disposals he gets without impacting the game. He sets up transition chains from D50 then gut runs to get involved multiple times in transition chains.

3 minutes ago, Rooooooooooo said:

Now I phrased this poorly but please don’t get me wrong. Daicos is an incredible player, imo the 2nd or 3rd best currently. I just think he shouldn’t be rewarded for all of these nothing possesions. His disposal efficiency was also down today which was a frustrating watch. Bit to clarify. Daicos with the ball is a master. Without is hes useless

You're wrong.

29 minutes ago, GS_1905 said:

Umpires really poor tonight missing absolute no brainers

Yep. Can’t say I noticed them in the previous three matches, but they were very poor tonight.

8 minutes ago, GawnOfTheDead said:

Money doesn’t fix everything. They’re a lost cause.

The problem is that the weaker clubs now have to spend big money for players that are not top liners. Jack Silvani is a case in point. De Koning is good but 1.7 is laughable. So what choice do the Aints have?

Equalization is simply a myth.