48 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Thanks for reaching out to me about this @Norm Smith's Curse. It's added a lot of value and you're really taking it to the next level man.

You've done this before...haven't you 😉

3 hours ago, Golden fist said:

I'll rest my case on this point...m go re-watch the last qtr of the st Kilda game. How you miss scoring from that position beggars belief

I remember that error well. I think that one and the one against Collingwood in the last stick in our minds and were no doubt bad and costly errors but they are probably harshly criticed relative to the countless turnovers by other players this year purely because of the state of the game at the time. The same supporters saying how bad Oliver’s disposal is want Rivers and Sparrow to be given more time in the middle which makes no sense.

btw I never mentioned anything about Oliver’s disposal or decision making in my original post here. It’s not his strong suit (by foot anyway) but he’s far from our worst.

For those of us that dont want him gone, lets just hope that none of the deals are very appealing to us.

I really dont see how any of them would be.

2 minutes ago, Deestinga2 said:

For those of us that dont want him gone, lets just hope that none of the deals are very appealing to us.

I really dont see how any of them would be.

3 minutes ago, Deestinga2 said:

For those of us that dont want him gone, lets just hope that none of the deals are very appealing to us.

I really dont see how any of them would be.

I love Clayton Oliver as much as anyone, but the obvious and appealing part to the deal is getting over half of his absurd salary off our books.

What we get back in return almost pales into insignificance - we won't be contending in the near future with or without him. We have been hamstrung in the free agency, other contract negotiations, and trade period talks for far too long by these monster contracts offered (rightly) to trac and clarry. With diminishing returns and out of contention we need to clear house and get back on track.

9 minutes ago, Deestinga2 said:

For those of us that dont want him gone, lets just hope that none of the deals are very appealing to us.

I really dont see how any of them would be.

We want him gone and are paying half his wage, this doesn't get walked back. He's 100% goneski. Pour a drink and crack out the highlights.

1 minute ago, RedFox said:

I love Clayton Oliver as much as anyone, but the obvious and appealing part to the deal is getting over half of his absurd salary off our books.

Again I will ask, who from the club said we'd be prepared to pay half his salary? It keeps getting stated on here, but has the Club actually said this?

16 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

Again I will ask, who from the club said we'd be prepared to pay half his salary? It keeps getting stated on here, but has the Club actually said this?

As far as I understand it’s come from the media I think it was Sam on SEN not the club though.

1 minute ago, DemonOX said:

As far as I understand it’s come from the media I think it was Sam on SEN not the club though.

so it could be BS - and yet its talked about as fact on here. Haha Typical DL.

1 minute ago, Neil Crompton said:

so it could be BS - and yet its talked about as fact on here. Haha Typical DL.

Well Tim Lamb isnt going to come out so early on the trade period and confirm how much we will play.

In fact, he was asked that particular question and refused to answer which says to me that if traded we will indeed pay some portion of his salary.

2 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

so it could be BS - and yet its talked about as fact on here. Haha Typical DL.

Google says Yes 😀 ( fact not bs )

17 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

Again I will ask, who from the club said we'd be prepared to pay half his salary? It keeps getting stated on here, but has the Club actually said this?

Of course the club won't go on public record and say they will pay for obvious reasons, but they will. Otherwise they are coughing up a first round pick to go with Oliver like GC did with Jack Bowes.

On top of the fact that we are in the midst of one of the worst cycles of leaking information this club has been through. The proof that the media has the inside lane is irrefutable.

Edited yesterday at 05:201 day by RedFox
Wrong word

25 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

Again I will ask, who from the club said we'd be prepared to pay half his salary? It keeps getting stated on here, but has the Club actually said this?

Leppitsch from Pies actually what was reported was around the mark

27 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

As far as I understand it’s come from the media I think it was Sam on SEN not the club though.

Yep.. up to half his $$$ Club via Sam

Club hasn't walked it back.

Any and all can take what they will from that.

7 hours ago, Trident22 said:

So we would trade Clayton Oliver for Miochek so we retain pick 39 as compensation for Spargo...what is the benefit of that?

What if they throw in Cox as a delisted free agent

3 minutes ago, chookrat said:

What if they throw in Cox as a delisted free agent

Immediately cancel the deal

13 hours ago, Norm Smith's Curse said:
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Gees did you watch 2025? There were numerous times when Kozzi was the best for us in the middle, speed, break away, disposal, linking up .
Yes I did and where did he do more damage on the ground as a mid or a forward
16 hours ago, Norm Smith's Curse said:
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Gees did you watch 2025? There were numerous times when Kozzi was the best for us in the middle, speed, break away, disposal, linking up .

Yes, and where does Kossie do the most damage, as a forward or a midfielder? While he has the pace, he doesn't have the endurance. He is an impact player. Yes, he can sometimes play in midfield, but he's not a full-time midfielder you take away a 40+ goal a year player to play in short bursts.

5 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

13 hours ago, Norm Smith's Curse said:
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Gees did you watch 2025? There were numerous times when Kozzi was the best for us in the middle, speed, break away, disposal, linking up .
Yes I did and where did he do more damage on the ground as a mid or a forward
16 hours ago, Norm Smith's Curse said:
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Gees did you watch 2025? There were numerous times when Kozzi was the best for us in the middle, speed, break away, disposal, linking up .

Yes, and where does Kossie do the most damage, as a forward or a midfielder? While he has the pace, he doesn't have the endurance. He is an impact player. Yes, he can sometimes play in midfield, but he's not a full-time midfielder you take away a 40+ goal a year player to play in short bursts.

If we could clone Kozzie we would have one in the midfield and one forward

9 minutes ago, chookrat said:

If we could clone Kozzie we would have one in the midfield and one forward

Why stop at one?

B: Picket, Pickett, Picket

HB: Kosi, Kosi, Kosi

C: Picket, Pickett, Picket

HF: Kosi, Kosi, Kosi

For: Picket, Pickett, Picket

Foll: Kosi, Kosi, Kosi

Int: Danny Soew, Graham Honeybell, Chris Woodman, Barry Denny, Paul O'Brien

Emg: Robert Flower

6 hours ago, Coolx2 said:

He won't be leaving Melbourne if we are only offered pick 38 or thereabouts. Hopefully we are not that STUPID.

Um you are Kidding.. King wants Clayton GONE, why else low ball his gravitas trying to change him into something he can NEVER become. He is a ball hunter and Collingwood know this, Would complement Faicos Brilliantly! Collingwoood KNOW they can pick him up cheap and with an Ageing Pendlebury and Sidebottom makes a must get pick up! I'm expecting this to happen!

1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

Yep.. up to half his $$$ Club via Sam

Club hasn't walked it back.

Any and all can take what they will from that.

I take from that that the club is wisely avoiding commenting of anything which would affect any negotiations.

2 hours ago, 0livers Army said:

I remember that error well. I think that one and the one against Collingwood in the last stick in our minds and were no doubt bad and costly errors but they are probably harshly criticed relative to the countless turnovers by other players this year purely because of the state of the game at the time. The same supporters saying how bad Oliver’s disposal is want Rivers and Sparrow to be given more time in the middle which makes no sense.

btw I never mentioned anything about Oliver’s disposal or decision making in my original post here. It’s not his strong suit (by foot anyway) but he’s far from our worst.

Yep spot in with your pints

I guess my point was that as supporters we over value players, in my mind he's not the worst but he's not 1.4 mil worth either.

I guess that's the issue the club are trying to solve

I hate the idea of losing Clarry.

But is there some poetic justice if Clarry ends up playing like a champion for Collingwood while Trac hides out in GC playing in front of miniature crowds?

2 minutes ago, No10 said:

I hate the idea of losing Clarry.

But is there some poetic justice if Clarry ends up playing like a champion for Collingwood while Trac hides out in GC playing in front of miniature crowds?

An Age article just released stated that Clazz was pretty unlikely to join the Pies, for whatever that's worth

1 hour ago, sue said:

I take from that that the club is wisely avoiding commenting of anything which would affect any negotiations.

Clever really ... Schroedinger 's stance neither confirm/deny but its 'out there'

🎪🤡🎪 week ( and a bit )

I think in many ways the clubs are in cahoots with media... kinda. Everyone knows they're being used lol.

In the end...its all.....

If we trade Oliver to Collingwood I will die inside.