8 hours ago, Macca said:

Yes we were pathetic and the loss also highlights that our issues run much deeper than just Goodwin

Time might have been up for SG but what about everyone else?

Every position in the FD needs to be looked at and as for the current list of players, there are holes everywhere ... especially in the area of difference makers or matchwinners

We're down to one only - Gawn

Whether we put players up for trade (strategically) or whether certain players ask to be traded is the question

One thing is for sure, this current list is taking us nowhere. We lack basic skills, we're not motivated, the teamwork is poor and we give up too easily

On Saturday, we were beaten in the first 5 minutes of the game

The concern for me is if the Board and the current FD genuinely believe we're not far away, we're in all sorts of trouble

We need a cleanout and an overhaul, Gonzo

Can’t disagree, we looked insipid early on but to be fair in the second half we chased and scragged and managed to stem what looked like being a 100 pt thrashing into a 36 pt loss.

Just where we are I am not sure. The week before against the dogs we tried, we ran, linked up, transitioned the ball from D50 to I50, delivering the ball into our forward line in different ways that allowed us to rack up a competitive score against a better, inform side.

Then on Saturday I fear we were watching this year’s best and likely Premiership team take us apart. The Hawks’ relentless pressure across the whole ground laid bare all our deficiencies in skill, lack of system and running power. With the Hawks dominating the midfield we reverted to the get ball, kick ball forward stuff that is a trademark of the Goody years and too easily picked off by good defences.

So maybe we are somewhere in the middle and there is some hope if a new coaching panel can develop a resilient, competitive game plan, annd adding some extra midfield leg speed from somewhere. I suspect a fire sale of senior players will not gain us much in return and there may not be many suitors.

Our performances are suffering from having experienced players struggling who should be in their prime in their late 20’s. Tracc, Oliver, Langdon are all playing well below their best. Along with Viney their butchering of the ball, lack of poise in traffic is just baffling. Can a new coach change this around? Viney as a defensive forward, Oliver back to handball first, kick second, Langdon back to the wing and new faces (Langford, Windsor, Rivers )for the majority of CBAs. Tracc an extra year from his traumatic injury to regain his ability to operate in traffic. Most importantly in my mind if the old firm starts the get ball and blindly bang it long stuff we are so familiar with, the new coach has to act and drop the offenders.

1 hour ago, bush demon said:

Man of La Mancha

Speaking of which, did Don Quixote call his donkey "Oaty"?

43 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

Can’t disagree, we looked insipid early on but to be fair in the second half we chased and scragged and managed to stem what looked like being a 100 pt thrashing into a 36 pt loss.

Just where we are I am not sure. The week before against the dogs we tried, we ran, linked up, transitioned the ball from D50 to I50, delivering the ball into our forward line in different ways that allowed us to rack up a competitive score against a better, inform side.

Then on Saturday I fear we were watching this year’s best and likely Premiership team take us apart. The Hawks’ relentless pressure across the whole ground laid bare all our deficiencies in skill, lack of system and running power. With the Hawks dominating the midfield we reverted to the get ball, kick ball forward stuff that is a trademark of the Goody years and too easily picked off by good defences.

So maybe we are somewhere in the middle and there is some hope if a new coaching panel can develop a resilient, competitive game plan, annd adding some extra midfield leg speed from somewhere. I suspect a fire sale of senior players will not gain us much in return and there may not be many suitors.

Our performances are suffering from having experienced players struggling who should be in their prime in their late 20’s. Tracc, Oliver, Langdon are all playing well below their best. Along with Viney their butchering of the ball, lack of poise in traffic is just baffling. Can a new coach change this around? Viney as a defensive forward, Oliver back to handball first, kick second, Langdon back to the wing and new faces (Langford, Windsor, Rivers )for the majority of CBAs. Tracc an extra year from his traumatic injury to regain his ability to operate in traffic. Most importantly in my mind if the old firm starts the get ball and blindly bang it long stuff we are so familiar with, the new coach has to act and drop the offenders.

Fair enough, EH. Good points

In my view, our biggest weakness is that we don't have any players (apart from Gawn) who can impose themselves on the game

When crunch time arrives, we go missing ... and that trend started midway through 2024

To win games you need impact players and lots of them

Even though the make-up of the current team isn't all that different to the 2021 Premiership team, the differences are quite stark

For starters, the game has moved on sharply and our players either can't adapt or won't adapt

And then there's the hunger for success which just isn't there

It will take more than a simple reset. We need a whole lot of new players if we're to seriously challenge again

2 off seasons might do the trick in terms of being a finals contender as the list isn't bereft of talent like we were when Roos took the helm

But to get what we want, we're going to have to give up a bit (in terms of ultimately strengthening the list)

And if a few players end up requesting trades or if we facilitate a few players into moving, then we'll get the chance to revamp the list with draft picks (or players) coming back our way

In a nutshell, the current list will be lucky to even compete for a finals spot next year (or beyond)

Moving Goodwin on is only the first move (if we're being serious)

Gee, Leigh Matthews gave the Club another serve tonight - right in front of Bucks, On the Couch....

13 hours ago, Billy said:

These are the two for me also, was big on Bucks but are warming more now for Danny Daly

The precarious road of selecting a coach who has not played at the highest level sends shivers down my spine!

5 hours ago, picket fence said:

The precarious road of selecting a coach who has not played at the highest level sends shivers down my spine!

Fagan says hello

7 hours ago, Harvey Wallbanger said:

Gee, Leigh Matthews gave the Club another serve tonight - right in front of Bucks, On the Couch....

Would you do me the honour of telling me what he said so I don’t have to watch it? Haha

18 hours ago, Deestinga2 said:

What concerns me the most about our next coach is that Richardson is involved in the process.

He is one that must go, i never liked the appointment to start with. IMHO the whole football department needs to go and the new coach can bring in his people.

The new FD Boss need to be a senior type, like Neil Balme, not a nobody that doesnt get respected from day one.

It's highly unlikely the club can afford to pay out both Goodie and Richardson in one year (Richardson also has a year left on his contract). They wouldn't have enough over to pay their replacements, although I'm sure some back-ending of contracts would occur.

Murray Davis is someone I hope applies just as someone to potentially consider if Danny Daly isn't interested. Listening to Fagan on SEN and he said from a pre-season game against Adelaide he could see similarities to how Adelaide were playing to Brisbane and even heard them use same lingo amongst the players. I guess it shows the immediate impact he's had and now Adelaide is sitting first.

8 hours ago, Harvey Wallbanger said:

Gee, Leigh Matthews gave the Club another serve tonight - right in front of Bucks, On the Couch....

If Buckley doesn’t have the awareness or insight to recognise where the club truly stands, both on and off the field, and we feel compelled to shield him from that reality just so he isn’t scared off, then maybe he’s not the right candidate for the job. The same applies to anyone else. Our challenges are out in the open for all to see. Any prospective coach should understand exactly where we are, come prepared with a plan to fix the on-field issues, and be capable of navigating the off-field ones as well.

2 hours ago, Ferghus31 said:

I was informed by a well known player manager friend that Danny Daly will be our next Coach also Neville Jetta will rejoin us in the role of Development we will keep some of our Assistants

The Football Department will have new faces along with Fitness staff the review conduvcted was scathing on our performance ?

Watch this space

In fairness based on the fact they haven’t even interviewed anyone, I find it hard t

8 hours ago, Harvey Wallbanger said:

Gee, Leigh Matthews gave the Club another serve tonight - right in front of Bucks, On the Couch....

What did he say?

Matthews said we are unstable. Changing the coach doesn't fix all the problems. Any coach taking over needs to be able to bring in all of his own people. From assistant coaches to fitness guy. Essentially taking full control of the FD.

Edited August 18Aug 18 by Jack Vineys Anger Manager

1 minute ago, Jack Vineys Anger Manager said:

I thought Mathews was spot on with what he said on the couch. We are unstable.

Matthews said we are unstable. Changing the coach doesn't fix all the problems. Any coach taking over needs to be able to bring in all of his own people. From assistant coaches to fitness guy.

Isn't this broadly reported as being our plan? In all likelihood we're going to go in with a totally revamped footy department, a new CEO and new President.

16 minutes ago, Jack Vineys Anger Manager said:

Matthews said we are unstable. Changing the coach doesn't fix all the problems. Any coach taking over needs to be able to bring in all of his own people. From assistant coaches to fitness guy. Essentially taking full control of the FD.

Sound advice

13 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

Isn't this broadly reported as being our plan? In all likelihood we're going to go in with a totally revamped footy department, a new CEO and new President.

Hope so... is our only real chance at reinvention and success.

Failure to totally reconfigure our Football Brains Department will result in a failure of our Team.

The Rosebush needs serious pruning and attending.

It's salvageable.

Not overnight.... but with prudent guidance.

4 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Failure to totally reconfigure our Football Brains Department will result in a failure of our Team.

The list needs major reconfiguring also

8 minutes ago, lorn said:

The list needs major reconfiguring also

Definitely. Is very overated. That's not to say the list is devoid of ability and talent it's just where they sit in the life cycle of footy that i sense many are getting it wrong.

We need to be a bit more Aldi, a lot less NQR and a visit to a Farmer's market or two as well as a decent wholesaler wouldn't go amiss.

Need to trade in and update too..

Did I hear Kevin Dennis mentioned 🤔 🤣🤣🤣

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

If Buckley doesn’t have the awareness or insight to recognise where the club truly stands, both on and off the field, and we feel compelled to shield him from that reality just so he isn’t scared off, then maybe he’s not the right candidate for the job. The same applies to anyone else. Our challenges are out in the open for all to see. Any prospective coach should understand exactly where we are, come prepared with a plan to fix the on-field issues, and be capable of navigating the off-field ones as well.

Who can cure our MFCSS Andy?

5 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Definitely. Is very overated. That's not to say the list is devoid of ability and talent it's just where they sit in the life cycle of footy that i sense many are getting it wrong.

Yes. The new coach might make us better and we could play finals but we won't be a serious contender with our current list. We're better off overhauling the list and going backwards for a while until we have a real chance of a premiership. Look how stacked Adelaide and Gold Coast are. That's who we'll be competing with in the next few years.

How much further backwards can we go: consecutive bottom 5 finishes !!!

Surely, people aren't thinking further backwards!

maybe just my MFCSS, but if we bring in Danny Daly, I think we are absolutely stuffed. I have no doubt he is a very accomplished assistant. We, as a club, are seriously at the crossroads. We have an ageing membership base. We have attracted no new fans in decades. We have sacked a premiership coach. Our list is in shambles. If we think an untried assistant can come in, make his mark, enthuse the fan base, then we may as well pack it up. A bloke like that will take years to impact..maybe we have been sucked in by the McCrae example...but his credentials are very different..maybe it's the Fagan example...again, I'd argue very differemt. This club needs to be put back on the map. Danny Daly does not offer that...It could be Fagan. it could be a Neeld...are we taking that risk?

37 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Definitely. Is very overated. That's not to say the list is devoid of ability and talent it's just where they sit in the life cycle of footy that i sense many are getting it wrong.

We need to be a bit more Aldi, a lot less NQR and a visit to a Farmer's market or two as well as a decent wholesaler wouldn't go amiss.

Need to trade in and update too..

Did I hear Kevin Dennis mentioned 🤔 🤣🤣🤣

I have no idea what this means, but it's @#$%ing brilliant.

15 hours ago, Dee Boys said:

I’m sorry but this is absolute nonsense. He inherited the youngest premiership team of all time. Younger even than the 93 “baby Bombers”.

Despite inheriting this list, he only took the team to finals 5 out of his 10 seasons.

I hope he’s learned some lessons and will be better the second time around but let’s not pretend his first stint as a senior coach was an impressive one.

Yeah - getting a side to within 110 seconds of a premiership is completely unimpressive. Especially as he only has a 50 percent record in delivering finals appearances.

30 minutes ago, Trident22 said:

maybe just my MFCSS, but if we bring in Danny Daly, I think we are absolutely stuffed. I have no doubt he is a very accomplished assistant. We, as a club, are seriously at the crossroads. We have an ageing membership base. We have attracted no new fans in decades. We have sacked a premiership coach. Our list is in shambles. If we think an untried assistant can come in, make his mark, enthuse the fan base, then we may as well pack it up. A bloke like that will take years to impact..maybe we have been sucked in by the McCrae example...but his credentials are very different..maybe it's the Fagan example...again, I'd argue very differemt. This club needs to be put back on the map. Danny Daly does not offer that...It could be Fagan. it could be a Neeld...are we taking that risk?

whoever is coming in needs to galvanise the group, develop the culture, and go from there

it's a big ask given how consistently awful the majority of the last 60 years have been

30 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Yeah - getting a side to within 110 seconds of a premiership is completely unimpressive. Especially as he only has a 50 percent record in delivering finals appearances.

The nuffs that are against Buckley cause he didn't deliver them a flag are unbearable.