31 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

I think 3 years is the sweet spot regardless of who we select. it gives us a good look at them, but a bit of a get out option if it's a total disaster. I don't think the first contract of a coaching stint should ever be more than that, and i'd even argue it shouldn't be full stop.

We've seen amazing coaches like Malthouse, Clarkson and so on go to clubs and struggle, so it feels like too big a gamble to treat coaching contracts the way we do players.

The question is whether an experienced coach, or anyone, will sign for only 3 years...

Edited September 5Sep 5 by Adam The God

6 hours ago, KozzyCan said:

The team had no talent when he started and was knocking on the door of finals when he left. Was the exact right person for the club at the time.

I’ll say it again. Purely in win/loss Paul Roos had a below average record. That’s a fact. He also lost his last game by close to 100 points. That’s also a fact. His game plan was horrendous. Maybe he changed the culture but I don’t rate him as a good coach

16 minutes ago, Oxdee said:

I’ll say it again. Purely in win/loss Paul Roos had a below average record. That’s a fact. He also lost his last game by close to 100 points. That’s also a fact. His game plan was horrendous. Maybe he changed the culture but I don’t rate him as a good coach

Roos completely turned the team around from a laughing stock to a competitive outfit. Roos did this in 3 years from ground zero. Roos was a fantastic coach and layed the platform for the future successes we had

It's interesting. When Goodwin was sacked, very few people were thinking Buckley, but as soon as it looked liked he was going to get the job people jumped on board

2 minutes ago, lorn said:

It's interesting. When Goodwin was sacked, very few people were thinking Buckley, but as soon as it looked liked he was going to get the job people jumped on board

Best of the experienced coaches remaining could be one of the reasons.

1 minute ago, DemonOX said:

Best of the experienced coaches remaining could be one of the reasons.

If he was the best of the experience coaches available why were so few people mentioning Buckley's name when Goodwin's job was in jeopardy and when he was sacked?

Edited September 5Sep 5 by lorn

1 hour ago, Oxdee said:

I’ll say it again. Purely in win/loss Paul Roos had a below average record. That’s a fact. He also lost his last game by close to 100 points. That’s also a fact. His game plan was horrendous. Maybe he changed the culture but I don’t rate him as a good coach

It's your opinion, but man, I think this is a very shallow take.

7 minutes ago, lorn said:

If he was the best of the experience coaches available why were so few people mentioning Buckley's name when Goodwin's job was in jeopardy and when he was sacked?

Look to be fair, for whatever reason they were probably thinking that Longmire and Simpson were pushing each other over to get through the door.

8 minutes ago, lorn said:

If he was the best of the experience coaches available why were so few people mentioning Buckley's name when Goodwin's job was in jeopardy and when he was sacked?

I'd seen a few people bring him up throughout the year. There's certainly been a sense about him that he'd return to coaching at some point. When he was asked about the role he appeared quite eager which was a pleasant surprise.

Then Longmire and Simpson pulled out and the question basically became Buckley or a random assistant so it's no surprise people started warming to the known candidate.

1 hour ago, Demons11 said:

Roos completely turned the team around from a laughing stock to a competitive outfit. Roos did this in 3 years from ground zero. Roos was a fantastic coach and layed the platform for the future successes we had

Roos, did what Barrassi did in the early 80s set it up for Northey, god I loved those years!

2 hours ago, Oxdee said:

I’ll say it again. Purely in win/loss Paul Roos had a below average record. That’s a fact. He also lost his last game by close to 100 points. That’s also a fact. His game plan was horrendous. Maybe he changed the culture but I don’t rate him as a good coach

You must have forgotten what Roos inherited. We were North / West Coast level bad. How is Clarkson going at North?

We played finals 1 year after he left, which was something we hadn't done in over a decade prior.

He changed the trajectory of this club, and set the foundations for Goody.

When he took over, did you think we'd win a flag in your lifetime? I sure as hell didn't.

We are in a completely different place now with our list, but I still believe that what we need most is a cultural/ attitude/ mental reset. More than we need a new game plan or a list overhaul.

Edited September 5Sep 5 by Jaded No More

58 minutes ago, lorn said:

It's interesting. When Goodwin was sacked, very few people were thinking Buckley, but as soon as it looked liked he was going to get the job people jumped on board

I’m coming around to the idea of Buckley coaching us. Not so much for his game plan (not much difference to goody) more so he’ll check the egos and put an end to the BS that’s derailed our recent seasons

1 hour ago, lorn said:

If he was the best of the experience coaches available why were so few people mentioning Buckley's name when Goodwin's job was in jeopardy and when he was sacked?

I said the “best of the remaining coaches (after Longmire and Simpson had pulled out) not the best experienced coach.

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

Roos, did what Barrassi did in the early 80s set it up for Northey, god I loved those years!

I still haven't recovered from '88...

15 minutes ago, rjay said:

I still haven't recovered from '88...

87 prelim was worse

18 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

87 prelim was worse

For me no...'88 we just weren't in it, it was so deflating for the whole game.

11 hours ago, Ted Lasso said:

They’re all great coaches

Apart from Buckley, they've only been assistant coaches at AFL level.

Edited September 5Sep 5 by bing181

9 hours ago, D4Life said:

Agree on the following:

Ump 22 definitely is anti Demons!

Caro W definitely hates Demons!

Dermie hates the Demons!

Not many of Channel 7 commentary team like us either!

When Demons won 2021 flag expectations were for multiple flags with the list and domination of that final series!

The results got progressively worse each season thereafter! I feel we were unlucky with injuries in 2023!

Our forward line and entries into the forward have not improved from 2022-2025, this is a coaching issue!

After a shocking start to the season, then many close losses and finally a disastrous 4th quarter loss to the Saints, where the team was in disarray. These issues ultimately stamped Goodwins ticket out!

Commercial maybe part of the reason, but not the reason Goodwin was fired!

In your penultimate paragraph you’ve ended a sentence with a full-stop instead of an exclamation mark! Just letting you know in case consistency matters to you!

You’re welcome!!!!!!!!

😜

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Jeez that’s generous of him

Old have a chat

Next!

On 04/09/2025 at 12:24, Hellfire Dub said:

Smarmy would be down there in the pit of unpopularity with biased Umpire 22 Nathan Williamson who also hates the Demons

Does he ever!

Watching tonight it’s hard to argue against someone from Geelong over Buckley’s fairly unimpressive coaching tenure. The game is constantly changing and Geelong seem right at the forefront of it

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the club after what he did to Jeff White!

6 hours ago, lorn said:

If he was the best of the experience coaches available why were so few people mentioning Buckley's name when Goodwin's job was in jeopardy and when he was sacked?

Honestly it was like when Roosey chose the Dees. I dared not think it because I didn't think he would be crazy enough.

7 hours ago, Oxdee said:

I’ll say it again. Purely in win/loss Paul Roos had a below average record. That’s a fact. He also lost his last game by close to 100 points. That’s also a fact. His game plan was horrendous. Maybe he changed the culture but I don’t rate him as a good coach

Mate he took over a list that wasn't even VFL standard and with the worst percentage I can remember. He knew it wasn't going to be easy and that it would undermine his past success but he did it anyway. You can't judge his win loss at the Dee's for anything given when he started we were so bad the afl had to step in.