Total umpire holocaust.

Sack every last one of them, bring in some junior umpire scrubbers as a stop-gap and develop a new system. Letting lawyers jog around for a bit of extra cash on the weekend isn't [censored] working

Quoting a Dees’ fan from another platform:

‘Why doesn’t Petracca play more like Heeney?’

Good question

Just now, jumbo returns said:

Quoting a Dees’ fan from another platform:

‘Why doesn’t Petracca play more like Heeney?’

Good question

Must still have a complex after that AD !!

Incredibly frustrating game, our level of intensity in the first half was so of the mark. This absolutely falls on our coaching department and leadership group.

Our failure to capitalise on a dominant 3rd quarter was also the same, our pressure was up, we fought back hard to get in front and let it slip again.

But this is the year we were meant to have and deserve. Unfortunately we are likely stuck down the bottom again next year as I dont trust us to trade in the right players in the 24-28 year old bracket like the Crows/Pies have. I still think this core group of young players could be special but right now we will be stuck getting the same-old unless the FD has the guts to trade out players aggressively this off season.

Edited 12 hours ago12 hr by MrFreeze

20 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Quoting a Dees’ fan from another platform:

‘Why doesn’t Petracca play more like Heeney?’

Good question

Something is wrong with Trac imo, he looks pale, sickly and is always gassed. Look at his stat's in the 4th, couldn't get near it!

39 minutes ago, Previously known as LITD. said:

I feel sorry for Kozzie.

Imagine what he could do in a team that actually gives a toss.

Mmm, I think that's part of the problem. A good proportion of our players do try but the system doesn't work.

Our list is not fantastic but it's not bad.

Gawn tries, Salem tries, Petracca, Oliver, Viney, Langdon, JVR, Melksham, Disco etc all try.

But they're working in a broken workplace that's completely chaotic on match day and standards and systems outside of match day that just aren't good enough.

The coaching team have to drive the standards, skill development, decision making and processes.

We need to pull the trigger now. Not end of the year when there's a few other teams looking for new coaches and assistants.

We're destroying a fairly reasonable list and we're back to being a non-destination club with a sliding membership.

But that's the thing, I think a lot of the players are really trying and it must be incredibly frustrating and soul destroying to be part of the decline.

Think about JVRs journey over the last few years. Had to bust his guts to break into a side and then became our primary KPF with no real support around him and a delivery method into f50 that has been completed GARBAGE for 4 years!

Oh and go and ruck for a third of the game too son. Good luck.

How many other good clubs do that to their young and developing KPFs?

Yes, Jeffo was terrifying in parts last night, but he's coming into a completely mad workplace. Of course his confidence and decision making will plummet. Just like JVRs has. He's only just crawling out of the hole somehow.

Our poor decision making comes from a lack of confidence in the system and then each other. Not so much effort.

Koz is just something else because he can do it all himself.

3 minutes ago, 420 said:

Something is wrong with Trac imo, he looks pale, sickly and is always gassed. Look at his stat's in the 4th, couldn't get near it!

I thought he took a couple of marks that exposed himself to hits from behind last night which is a step in the right direction. He needs to win that mental battle as otherwise he will never return to his prior form.

Another one who went back courageously last night was Fritsch, it was in front of the MCC so opposite side to me but was something we don't see from him often. Was great to see.

10 hours ago, Dees1911 said:

Thoughts on goody presser.

1. Nice to see some sort of anger.

2. Not sure effort in 1st qtr and half was the sole reason for losing.

3. I love what Clarry has done for club, but his problems were in pre-season of 2024, and as a professional athlete 18 months on to still need coach to be making excuses for performance says all about our club and standards that are being set , how long on a million + before it changes ??

We had 13 Premiership players out there, as well as Jake Melksham, a bloke who was emergency in a Lions flag and a bloke who I now think should be captain after Max (Turner). Despite this, Goodwin is talking about embedding basic discipline and "behaviours", as he was in Year 1. That's incomprehensible.

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42 minutes ago, fr_ap said:

The sad part is this can and will get a lot worse over the next couple of years.

For years now we have gambled our future on the present. That present is not delivering and is about to become the past when Gawn declines, one of Trac or Clarry exit, Tom Mac/Melk retire, Viney retires, Salem retires. May has already declined and at this point shouldnt be getting games (statistically the worst performed KPD in the league this year). The game has gone past Lever.

That so many of this cohort are still playing every week and need to play well for us to win is very concerning. Other than Bowey, Kozzie, Turner of course and perhaps Langford and maybe McVee, there are major question marks over all our young players.

Big gap in the middle of the list from 80-120 games experience, and pretty much zero senior acquisitions from other clubs that have improved the team, which is really pathetic. I think Tim Lamb, Alan Richardson and to a lesser extent Jason Taylor (the longer you stay in that job, your hit rate will revert to the mean....we are seeing it) have done a bang average job for about 5 years now.

Adelaide have taken a step this year by adding pearling, ANB, cumming to a side that had some good old and young pieces. It can be done but you need an active FD. Lo

Our flag team was built on an active FD with Mahoney and Todd Viney being aggressive at the trade table, and Goodwin, McCartney, Rawlings, Roos actually developing young players properly. I can distinctly recall watching McCartney work with Harmes, who had a lot of flaws but was just given time to develop properly. ANB too. I miss when we were a connected, high standard FD who gave games on merit, consistency and application rather than reputation or potential.

Kolt shouldn't be playing, it's very clear he can't find the speed.

You could call Laurie a bust - but we'll never know. He hasn't been given a proper run at it in his position. He's played as a half fwd at AFL level, which accentuates his flaws and does nothing to show his strengths.

Make no mistake - we have a bad FD who are not driving standards properly, coaching properly, teaching properly or making long term decisions.

A good one got us a flag.

Great post.

I remember ANB talking about Yze as he was departing MFC.

He said Yze helped transform his kicking game. Remember what a butcher he was early on.

He said Yze taught him to take a breath and find time before kicking and it made a huge difference to his disposal and kicking.

I wish he was our head coach now. I think we're really missing him

I watched a bit of Norf and Tigers yesterday. I'm sure they'll go past us next year as their lists improve and their players develop their skills and learn to take a breath before disposing in a cohesive system.

The tiges are looking pretty fast

I got the impression last night that Oliver is making some headway in changing his old habits - he seemed to look for a target - by hand or foot - at every opportunity that I can recall, instead of banging it long every time. This is so pleasing to see, and bodes well for both his and our football future.

Can’t say the same about Trac unfortunately.

5 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

I got the impression last night that Oliver is making some headway in changing his old habits - he seemed to look for a target - by hand or foot - at every opportunity that I can recall, instead of banging it long every time. This is so pleasing to see, and bodes well for both his and our football future.

Can’t say the same about Trac unfortunately.

He had 15 kicks versus 11 handballs and went at 77% efficiency. He was definitely better with his ball use. Did well in a head to head battle with Cripps. Both had almost identical stats.

Funny how 26 touches and 7 clearances is seen as such a nothing game for him. Not many mids get those numbers every week.

Pickett is a lock for AA

35 goals in 15 games

Ave 20 touches

4 clearances

An absolute freak

And the positives end there i’m afraid

50 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Quoting a Dees’ fan from another platform:

‘Why doesn’t Petracca play more like Heeney?’

Good question

interesting question

answer might be that Trac can’t finish

11 hours ago, godees said:

Both did. You can lose a game in many different ways.

It's just delusional Melbourne supporter 'woe is us' talk.

We lost the game because we were absolutely awful. Skill-wise, competitiveness.

Unless there was a non-call on a play that would have guaranteed us a goal, put us in front at the last second, it's just pointless to talk about.

We were pathetic. Goody needs to be held to account. Carlton's kids dominated us. Our senior players simply do not care anymore.

Totally disillusioned with the list, game plan, coaches, recruiters, board, umpires and AFL. Apart from that, all good.

This club is a major f......g disappointment. The whole coaching group needs to go, bugger off.

Trade Oliver, foot skills are deplorable. Would lump Petracca in the same boat, but he can still become a matchwinner again, so he is a keep. Tell McVeigh to either sign or bugger off. Trade Lever. Build a backline around Petty and Turner. Pickett, Langford and Rivers as the starting mids.

Christ, the forwards! Must get someone in, maybe McKay. At least he can take a grab, leads to the ball, and has a bit of forward nous. Alongside JVR. Jefferson makes Hipwood look like King Kong, trade him.

Really glad I paid the extra membership for the GF guarantee....jeesus

1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

Must still have a complex after that AD !!

He hasn't been the same after that ad Trac.

It's bought him nothing but bad luck.

Recruiting team need to chase Jacko and McKay big time - think big, trade hard

Did goody respond about the non holding the ball to Oliver?

1 hour ago, The Taciturn Demon said:

We had 13 Premiership players out there, as well as Jake Melksham, a bloke who was emergency in a Lions flag and a bloke who I now think should be captain after Max (Turner). Despite this, Goodwin is talking about embedding basic discipline and "behaviours", as he was in Year 1. That's incomprehensible.

13 players 4 years after a flag is too many

2 hours ago, jumbo returns said:

Quoting a Dees’ fan from another platform:

‘Why doesn’t Petracca play more like Heeney?’

Good question

Heeney runs on top of the ground. Trac ploughs through it. Different athletes

13 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

We are genuinely a bang average footy club.

Our skills are absolutely deplorable and probably the worse in the AFL competition.

Old players are completely washed up and cooked.

Makes me sick to think we've got another 12 months of Goodwin rubbish.

What I find most amazing is the extraordinary drop in performance in this side . Even in 2022 and 2023 we were a competitive , final playing side - capable of winning against all sides and of having long consecutive winning runs.Goody would like to have us believe that the sheer disastrous team performances over the last two seasons ( close to a cellar dweller) is all part of some well conceived plan- a change of game style etc I don’t buy it any more ( if I ever did) . There is absolutely nothing or little to suggest this team is improving or will improve. That’s not pessimism, rather just a rational assessment of our ongoing performances.Goody never , ever accepts any responsibility for the rapid decline of this once Premiership team . Nor do most Senior players. I suspect many of them including Goody will just be happy to be remembered as the team that broke the Premiership drought . They’ve climbed their mountain and are all on a good wicket. Unfortunately since the 1950s this Club has no tradition or culture of ongoing success.

Edited 10 hours ago10 hr by FabDemon
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1 hour ago, ijustwannaseeaflag said:

This club is a major f......g disappointment. The whole coaching group needs to go, bugger off.

Trade Oliver, foot skills are deplorable. Would lump Petracca in the same boat, but he can still become a matchwinner again, so he is a keep. Tell McVeigh to either sign or bugger off. Trade Lever. Build a backline around Petty and Turner. Pickett, Langford and Rivers as the starting mids.

Christ, the forwards! Must get someone in, maybe McKay. At least he can take a grab, leads to the ball, and has a bit of forward nous. Alongside JVR. Jefferson makes Hipwood look like King Kong, trade him.

Really glad I paid the extra membership for the GF guarantee....jeesus

Who's McVeigh,never seen him

Again last night we only used four players at centre bounce (outside the rucks) - Pickett, Trac, Oliver, Viney.

Since quarter time against Gold Coast it feels like we’ve completely abandoned our bye week plan to change it up and instead have doubled down by adding absolutely no one new into the mix.

I assume part of the strategy is the waning late-season fitness of Langford, Lindsay and Windsor, but zero centre bounces, each week, plus no Rivers, plus not bringing in Laurie or Woewodin or Culley or anyone else new just to try, is to me not the right strategy.

Going all in on the same four each week is how we ended up in this hole.

3 hours ago, demon3165 said:

Post of the week.

Particularly if your partner headed up HR department