14 minutes ago, Bonkers said:

I’m sick to death of us being stitched up by the umpires against those [censored]. We should have done enough ourselves to get over the line and shot ourselves in the foot with repetitive simple skill errors. But that last 2 minutes from the umpires was a disgrace. Instead of a forward 50 entry and potential shot on goal from a holding the ball free kick which isn’t paid to Clarry, they give a ticky touchwood free kick to Curnow for something I’m sure Max and our on ballers have to put up with 100 times in a game. To follow it up Max gets ran through and punched in the head in a marking contest, has blood streaming out of his forehead, no free kick. Absolutely Fuming.

THE CLUB WILL NOT SAY ANYTHING BECAUSE IT IS USELESS

until you start withholding your memberships and demanding a forthright club nothing will change

I won’t, until it does

They are bloody timid. I hate it. No money until they man up

2 minutes ago, No10 said:
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I’m with you… but Salem? He was ok tonight. He’s had solid games this year.

Salem is like your grandfather after Xmas lunch all too slow and wanting to have a sleep on the couch as the day goes on.

25 minutes ago, Tom Dyson said:

We win that game if that holding the ball is payed.

Change my mind.

We also win if we kick straight. Or if we hit targets. Let’s focus on how we can improve, not one umpiring decision.

If we require an umpiring decision to get wins, then we are clearly not good enough.

1 minute ago, BigBadBustling said:

Ok, so you're one of them.

That game full of errors got us very close to winning, but what changed to stop us from doing so? Have a little think now for a change and you'll work it out.

If Goodwin goes we'll spend 10 years at the bottom. Is that what you want?

Or we could get a new coach, new skills coach and develop the talent we have and challenge for a flag. What a revelation

The one part of the AFL that is lagging behind sporting codes around the world like the EPL or NBA, is that we hold onto coaches a year or two longer than we should.

Owners and GM's over there are prepared to make the tough calls because they will not accept a protracted period of mediocrity. 2 years of failure after the highest of success and you're done. For some reason, AFL clubs need to see 3, 4 or even 5 seasons of poor performances before it's over. Holding on too long with the hope that it will turn around. I wonder who will be coaching us in 2027 eh.

Edited July 19Jul 19 by John Demonic

I felt when May did what he did it turned things. I felt may was just not in it most of the game.

He gave up goals to curnow in the first half & fumbled.

But again it's a game where we won the inside 50, had more scoring shots yet again lost.

We were coming home in that final term yet couldn't capitalise.

It's just getting frustrating

3 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

he has a bunch of kids that are going to take time to develop

Ah, so you can have a great coach and yet the team can still be losing matches depending on the players/list.

You're just saying what I'm saying.

Glad to see we're in agreement.

1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Blame the umpires but turn a complete blind eye to the deplorable skill level from our players on show tonight.

If you're blaming our loss purely on umpire, then you simply have problems yourself.

No DD, our players (with their deplorable skills) got us close enough to win that game tonight. 1 thing stopped them. Don't be 1 of 'them'! Agreed our skills need work, but that's not why we lost. You're better than that!

So sick of alleged supporters bagging our players when they've clearly been stitched up. Or are you turning a blind eye to the umpiring? And why? Look at the stats. You'd be happy with your team's effort with those numbers, no? Which stat won the game? Think long and hard!

24 minutes ago, BigBadBustling said:

Exactly. Have any of these morons calling for the coaches head seen the stats? Did they actually watch the game? That was appalling umpiring.

Yes the umpiring was bad. The only thing worse was our ball movement and structural positioning. We didn't lose because of the umpires, we lost because we are a rudderless club. Starts with the coach.

Edited July 19Jul 19 by Dr. Gonzo

We should be reviewing that 2nd quarter to find out what the hell happened where we couldn't kick a goal

2 minutes ago, SPC said:

Or we could get a new coach, new skills coach and develop the talent we have and challenge for a flag. What a revelation

Yet me guess, you believe in the tooth fairy as well?

4 minutes ago, burnthefushias said:

It's hard to beat the umpires but it's harder to beat an average side with below average execution.

There were some good signs from some of the younger guys. Pickett is a generational talent, Langford is phenomenal, JVR is presenting and marking again and Jefferson dropped a few easy ones, but clunked a few good ones and worked himself into the game. Let them run the year out and with another pre-season they can both go up a level.

Rivers and Langford need to be moved into the midfield, it seems like such an obvious move but it's clearly one that will not happen anytime soon, I think partly because Viney and Oliver lack positional versatility. Very strange that Petracca isn't playing in the forward line more with Pickett able to pick up the slack in the midfield.

Having said that, the list is better than what we're dishing up, so I understand why people are disappointed. We need to upgrade Salem to kicking coach because he's one of the few guys (alongside the 19 year old Langford) who can consistently hit that 20 metre kick and the game is heading towards if you can't do that, you're going to struggle to win games.

Like this BTF. I think Viney is now a major concern. I really don't know, but could you play him down back? It'd perhaps give more opportunities to our outside mids.

2 minutes ago, SPC said:

Or we could get a new coach, new skills coach and develop the talent we have and challenge for a flag. What a revelation

And all the players that rightly love Goody leave. Full rebuild, with Tassie coming in. Maybe we could get this Neeld bloke hey.

It's the dumbest idea since going to a Coldplay concert with your sidepiece.

Absolute rubbish!!!

Sure there were some dodgy calls by the umpires, but we were for the most part the victims of our own lack of attack on the ball, our own laziness, our own poor judgement and our own appalling skills!!

Will we lose Goodwin (it’s got to be a distinct possibility, but who could replace him?), and will now see the likes of Fritsch and McVee being spruiked around other clubs because we’ve left ourselves in a position where we have no currency when the trade (and draft) periods roll around?

To turn on this kind of [censored] at this point of the season, does not fill me with any confidence for the future… the most basic of skills (??!!??) seem to have been lost!! Can’t take a chest mark, can’t kick a ball at a reachable height when either bombing it in, or trying a short pass, and hand passes that have the intended target reaching down and forward giving them no opportunity to do anything useful with the ball because they are so off balance (same goes for those short kicks I just mentioned)!!

I’m so [censored] off because I’m now having to resign myself to the fact that there’s a very distinct possibility that I might not ever get to see us play finals again!!

[censored] them!! Seriously… [censored] them and their sorry attempts to look like a football team.

There… it’s good to get that off my chest.

Edited July 19Jul 19 by hardtack

24 minutes ago, stranga said:

How many coaches in their 9th year would survive two consecutive bottom 4 finishes? The club is cooked

Yep exactly NONE!

2 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Yes the umpiring was bad. The only thing worse was our ball movement and structural positioning. We didn't lose because of the umpires, we lost because we are a rudderless club. Starts with the coach.

Agree to disagree

Just now, bing181 said:

Ah, so you can have a great coach and yet the team can still be losing matches depending on the players/list.

You're just saying what I'm saying.

Glad to see we're in agreement.

So you want to compare our list with North's then and you think it's comparable, and then let's compare the the two clubs then shall we, from when clarkson got there and Goodwin from 22 it's been downhill since.

Thank God for Kozzie 😍

15 minutes ago, bing181 said:

How's mega-coach Alistair Clarkson going at North in his third year?

Round 2: Melbourne 66 North Melbourne 125.

What does that say about us?

1 minute ago, BigBadBustling said:

And all the players that rightly love Goody leave. Full rebuild, with Tassie coming in. Maybe we could get this Neeld bloke hey.

It's the dumbest idea since going to a Coldplay concert with your sidepiece.

Not quite as dumb as keeping a coach of an underperforming team just because the players “love him”. Surely you are joking 😂

2 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Yep exactly NONE!

It's a good story, but since when are we bottom 4?

Just now, Dee-tonator said:

Round 2: Melbourne 66 North Melbourne 125.

What does that say about us?

Ouch....

Tholstrup is no good. Someone on here tell me what his strength is?

If I was Laurie or Woewoden, I’d be on the phone to my manager asking who is interested.

6 minutes ago, BigBadBustling said:

No DD, our players (with their deplorable skills) got us close enough to win that game tonight. 1 thing stopped them. Don't be 1 of 'them'! Agreed our skills need work, but that's not why we lost. You're better than that!

So sick of alleged supporters bagging our players when they've clearly been stitched up. Or are you turning a blind eye to the umpiring? And why? Look at the stats. You'd be happy with your team's effort with those numbers, no? Which stat won the game? Think long and hard!

I am sick of our List having deplorable skills…

Dees v Blues

2023 round 22 Lost by 4 points Blues win after Dees kick last two goals and Trac misses chance to win it Hurts!!

2023 Semi Dees 9.17 to 11.7 lost by 2 points. Blues in finals. Out. It hurt. It really hurt

How did the Dees respond to this hurt. This pain.

2024 round 9 Lost by 1 point. Heartbreak. Went scoreless in first qtr Come back to lose by 1 point Crucial last qtr contest and couldn’t punch or force a point Hurts Three close losses where we fail in crucial crunch time

How did the Dees respond to this hurt. This pain.

2025 Lost by 10 points to Blues , an understrength Blues … rookie Moir kicks 4 goals … in Clarrys 200th game (go from 7.3 to 8.10) fail to take chances and fumble our way to another loss