Interesting period coming up, feels like we are at a significant crossroad.

Clarry, Trac, Viney, Koz are all locked in to long deals. We still need a lot of class around the first three to seriously challenge the best - I’m talking every week, not just one big game every 6.

I’d be open to shopping JVR, Riv and Lever - I acknowledge there’s not a lot of currency there but we need more fresh faces

Edited June 13Jun 13 by BW511

I think Melk and Tmac get a 1 year extension. They're playing good footy and still important to the team. Billings, Woewodin, Hore, Laurie and possibly Brown on the chopping block. I think McAdam survives the cut this year considering we gave up a second round draft pick for him, so club has to honour the full contract. Sestan, Adams and AMW safe for now as we believe they have good potential. Most likely scenario is we draft 2 and trade for 1-2 players and upgrade Sestan to the senior list.

5 hours ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

I think Shane McAdam is on a 3 year deal. One more to go.

Or we do what we did to Hunter.

It’s only mid season so still time to see what players can shine in the back half and who might take their opportunities.

The veterans. Over 30. Age at start of 2026

Tmac (33) - not sure he gets another year

Melksham (34) maybe one more year

Billings (30). Likely will be delisted

Tom Campbell (34) One more year in the absence of young rucks

The fringe …

Laurie. Excellent VFL player but lacks the pace and killer skills to get regular AFL footy. Stuck in the middle. Contracted but may get offers elsewhere We may let him go

Hore. Unfortunately injuries have again meant he has missed his chances. Likely delisted at end of year

Fullarton. Was given his opportunity but showed he’s not up to it. To be delisted imv

Sestan, Kentfield, Verrall, Woey jnr deserve another year

Ricky Mentha has shown enough to get another year

AMW - yes he showed plenty and unlucky to get injured. I’d sign him up for 2 years

Adams contracted to 2026

Ruthless decisions?

Spargo. Thanks but we need more from a small forward then 6 possessions and 2 kicks for 15 metres. 1 goal in 10 games is not good enough

McAdam. His 3 year deal may save him. Was looking okay in 2025 preseason until injured. Unsure if he stays but likely will.

Surely Campbell wont be given another year .We only took him this year as an emergency back up to Max because we never had the wherewithal to get anyone else suitable.A further year on the list will only exacerbate this problem. We must be able to find a younger ruck with a bit of potential .Adams is blessed that he has a contract to 2026 .He can run kick jump and do just about anything other than actually getting the footy .

Devil's advocate... sort of. Would any team give up much for Langdon?

19 hours ago, BW511 said:

Interesting period coming up, feels like we are at a significant crossroad.

Clarry, Trac, Viney, Koz are all locked in to long deals. We still need a lot of class around the first three to seriously challenge the best - I’m talking every week, not just one big game every 6.

I’d be open to shopping JVR, Riv and Lever - I acknowledge there’s not a lot of currency there but we need more fresh faces

Did I read right? JVR who kicked 58 goals in two seasons with consistent footy, Rivers who was almost our best midfielder when Trac was gone, and Lever the intercept (and free kick giving) machine. I cannot agree. I'd be moving on Spargo, Laurie, Fullerton, Billings, McAdam (pay him out), Petty (nothing about his game playing as a forward him a threat), Melksham and McDonald (if they want to retire, and any other lost cloggers you can think of.

I also think the club needs to tell players like Viney and Frac their midfield minutes are reducing to bring through the new wave. Don't like it then thanks and enjoy your new club.

Finally, chuck in Tim Lamb for his rediculous contracts and Alan Richardson (feels like a cheerleader).

Sparrow needs a PR team like ANB. Nobody knows what his role is but he has no trade value because nobody knows what he does. Great overhead mark for his body size and one of the better kicks on goal but wtf is his role?

JVR who i thought would be a great key forward but can't take a clean mark.

Petty - is being found out with his sub par below the knees skills and turning circle like the titanic

Kolt - speed maps are elite but footy IQ makes him slow

Petracca - the greatest player i have seen since Matthew Larkin who can can stand up in a tackle when half the other team is hanging off him. Not the player we want the ball invisible hands

2 hours ago, inanunda said:

Did I read right? JVR who kicked 58 goals in two seasons with consistent footy, Rivers who was almost our best midfielder when Trac was gone, and Lever the intercept (and free kick giving) machine. I cannot agree. I'd be moving on Spargo, Laurie, Fullerton, Billings, McAdam (pay him out), Petty (nothing about his game playing as a forward him a threat), Melksham and McDonald (if they want to retire, and any other lost cloggers you can think of.

I also think the club needs to tell players like Viney and Frac their midfield minutes are reducing to bring through the new wave. Don't like it then thanks and enjoy your new club.

Finally, chuck in Tim Lamb for his rediculous contracts and Alan Richardson (feels like a cheerleader).

You want our best kick inside 50 and probably our best kick under 40m to be moved on? Practically the only player who can kick inside 50 and hit targets? Not sure I agree.

Edited June 14Jun 14 by Adam The God

On 13/06/2025 at 14:33, DistrACTION Jackson said:

In regards to players to bring in we have been linked to the following so far:

We’ve also been linked to GWS’s Brown apparently.

Maybe we'll try for Cadman again... 😉

7 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

...

Tom Campbell (34) One more year in the absence of young rucks

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Sestan, Kentfield, Verrall, Woey jnr deserve another year

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I can't see any of these players getting a game this year, or next.

Delist.

1 hour ago, Adam The God said:

Maybe we'll try for Cadman again... 😉

13 marks, 19 disposals, 5.1.

Yeah, he'll be gettable!

5 hours ago, inanunda said:

Did I read right? JVR who kicked 58 goals in two seasons with consistent footy, Rivers who was almost our best midfielder when Trac was gone, and Lever the intercept (and free kick giving) machine. I cannot agree. I'd be moving on Spargo, Laurie, Fullerton, Billings, McAdam (pay him out), Petty (nothing about his game playing as a forward him a threat), Melksham and McDonald (if they want to retire, and any other lost cloggers you can think of.

I also think the club needs to tell players like Viney and Frac their midfield minutes are reducing to bring through the new wave. Don't like it then thanks and enjoy your new club.

Finally, chuck in Tim Lamb for his rediculous contracts and Alan Richardson (feels like a cheerleader).

I was worried that JVR, Riv and Lever wouldn’t have enough currency to get us anything decent. Moving everyone on from your list would barely get us a single draft pick.

We’ve got coverage for Lever (Petty, Turner, T-Mac & Adams) and I’d say Turner has waltzed past Lever in the past few weeks.

Similarly, we have coverage for Rivers wherever he plays. Trac, Clarry and Viney are all signed long term, so at least 2 will be permanently playing mid.

JVR is a little different but on 2025 output, we could play Jeffo all next year and if all but guarantee we break even, at minimum.

I’d hope the club is going hard at more forward/mid types as a high priority, they cost money/picks and we will have to lose something of value to gain in that area. Ideally, I’d like more height added to our HFF/Mid rotation.

We still need better ball users to complement Lindsay and Langford moving forward.

Edited June 14Jun 14 by BW511

trade Rivers and Spargo.

Rivers' up and under kicks epitomises the ongoing epidemic of our lack of connection and the fact that he does this consistently (not sure Oliver, Petracca and Viney have it in them at this point to change) and his part of the 2nd generation of players in the team (part of the young brigade from the granny), blows my mind. trade Rivers and replace him with someone mature and skilled by foot.

Spargo is just a weak link. in the hope that we could off load him and put some of his worth to get someone like Wade Derksen, i'd be stoked. we don't have room to have Spargo and Chandler both in the side and I'd rather Chandler.

Edited June 15Jun 15 by Mt. Dee-Maaan

6 minutes ago, Mt. Dee-Maaan said:

trade Rivers and Spargo.

Rivers' up and under kicks epitomises the ongoing epidemic of our lack of connection and the fact that he does this consistently (not sure Oliver, Petracca and Viney have it in them at this point to change) and his part of the 2nd generation of players in the team (part of the young brigade from the granny), blows my mind. trade Rivers and replace him with someone mature and skilled by foot.

Spargo is just a weak link. in the hope that we could off load him and put some of his worth to get someone like Wade Derksen, i'd be stoked. we don't have room to have Spargo and Chandler both in the side and I'd rather Chandler.

What lack of connection?

We can connect. We can't kick straight.

19 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

What lack of connection?

We can connect. We can't kick straight.

you're unaware of the ongoing issue with the quality of our forward entries Adam? goalkicking is another issue (though definitely linked). however, the core issue is the way that it comes in. or more, comes in and then leaves (with haste!).

42 minutes ago, Mt. Dee-Maaan said:

trade Rivers and Spargo.

Rivers' up and under kicks epitomises the ongoing epidemic of our lack of connection and the fact that he does this consistently (not sure Oliver, Petracca and Viney have it in them at this point to change) and his part of the 2nd generation of players in the team (part of the young brigade from the granny), blows my mind. trade Rivers and replace him with someone mature and skilled by foot.

Spargo is just a weak link. in the hope that we could off load him and put some of his worth to get someone like Wade Derksen, i'd be stoked. we don't have room to have Spargo and Chandler both in the side and I'd rather Chandler.

Rivers would get you a late first round pick in a weak draft so we'd instantly be worse off and then we'd double down and trade Spargo for a speculative third round pick and continue to be worse off. Do you even know how drafting and trading works because you ain't showing it.

I'm not against trading anyone but it has to make us better.

Edited June 15Jun 15 by Roost it far

1 hour ago, Mt. Dee-Maaan said:

you're unaware of the ongoing issue with the quality of our forward entries Adam? goalkicking is another issue (though definitely linked). however, the core issue is the way that it comes in. or more, comes in and then leaves (with haste!).

We create more than enough shots to win.

And your argument is our kicking inside 50 is bad, so get rid of our best kick inside 50?

Spargo is statistically our best kick inside 50.

spargo is an unrestricted free agent - if he gets a significant offer from another club, he may elect to leave

according to those who know, this upcoming draft is supposedly the weakest in some time - i for one doubt we will be looking to trade into it

we have a host of players who have little or no trade value and those that may have value - particularly the wa boys; van rooyen, mcvee, tholstrup, rivers, even adams at a stretch - are those that i would say we can least afford to lose as they should form the basis of our best 23 side for the bulk of the next decade

i really, really hope that kalani white picks the mfc to come to as a father-son; his final quarter in his casey debut last night was utterly thrilling to see

clearly we will, if things go our way, pick toby sinnema as an nga pick, while our 2026 nga pick marcus prasad looks like an even more exciting option

so, 2026 and 2027 first round picks? sell em to flagmantle - i want dogga jackson back

likely delisting candidates:

• billings

• hore

• fullarton

• woewodin

• henderson

• culley

billings plays a role as a vfl player but should never play for the mfc again - we have better options as a mid rotation - while hore is unlucky that he's out of contract and is constantly injured, while fullarton is just completely uncompetitive

possible retirements:

• melksham

• plugger mac

• campbell

personally i would keep all three on the list; possibly shift campbell to the rookie list in lieu of verrall or let him retire IF we get dog back from out west

trade options:

• oliver

• laurie

• sparrow

• fritsch

i think laurie offers no value to being on the list as a primary inside mid; he should want and demand a trade elsewhere where he can try and get more opportunity at another club - i personally have doubts as to whether he is good enough to make it in that role in an afl team, but he definitely deserves the opportunity

i wouldn't trade oliver or fritsch, as primarily i don't think we'd get value for them (e.g. if the baggers really wanted fritsch, i would want harry mckay in a straight swap - they both offer the same scoreboard impact, but fritsch is a helluva lot less costly on the cap) while sparrow plays a role for us as that small pressure forward / mid, but he frustates me so much with his inconsistency in the role

i don't think the likes of salem, petty will realise enough 'value' in a trade sense for us to part with them

it's hard to see how we are going to get involved in the meat market that is the trade period this year unless one of fritsch, oliver, petracca demands a trade

Edited June 15Jun 15 by whatwhat say what

Delist - Hore, Woey, Fullarton, Laurie (or trade) McAdam

Trade/FA options - Salem, Oliver, Fritsch, Spargo, Laurie (or delist)

Retire - Melks, Tmac, Campbell (all three are maybe)

Players too look at -

Jackson

Bergman

Lord

Derksen

Callum brown

Would a M.rosas or Arthur Jones be worth a risk? Both out of contract

2 hours ago, Roost it far said:

Rivers would get you a late first round pick in a weak draft so we'd instantly be worse off and then we'd double down and trade Spargo for a speculative third round pick and continue to be worse off. Do you even know how drafting and trading works because you ain't showing it.

I'm not against trading anyone but it has to make us better.

exactly. and with that late first round pick (and maybe a future first, or maybe even just with that late first) we could get someone that kicks the ball better in the same age demographic. are you not aware of how the AFL trading system works? no need to patronise me. we move on a player and hopefully get to replace that player (e.g. Rivers) with a player of the same basic skill level (and hopefully in our case, someone with added attributes/something our list is missing). Rivers streaming forward to bomb it to the opposition consistently is not helping us. much rather him in the backline and if he doesn't fit there anymore, move him on.

you are greatly overstating Spargo's skill/worth to our team. just because he can execute dinky short passes inside 50 does not mean much. its more of an indictment on the skills of the rest of our list. look at where he sticks up in the league. he is not an impressive player. again, move him on and get someone that has those skills (and hopefully kicks more goals). he is a small forward remember. he does not impact our attack enough. its not a new suggestion i am making here..

Edited June 15Jun 15 by Mt. Dee-Maaan

This will be controversial but what the hell….for me Trac has been ineffective for some time (poor disposal, hasn’t been able to improve goal kicking, always fumbles, can’t tackle, poor decision making and no leadership) and it is time to get the best we can for him on the trade table which is more than we will get for any others mentioned as tradeable at this stage - I.e. he delivers little, costs a lot but has the most collateral.

Do it respectfully and discreetly, not an open auction, but in conversation with him as he has made it known he is willing to move.

2 minutes ago, Blue-and-red said:

This will be controversial but what the hell….for me Trac has been ineffective for some time (poor disposal, hasn’t been able to improve goal kicking, always fumbles, can’t tackle, poor decision making and no leadership) and it is time to get the best we can for him on the trade table which is more than we will get for any others mentioned as tradeable at this stage - I.e. he delivers little, costs a lot but has the most collateral.

Do it respectfully and discreetly, not an open auction, but in conversation with him as he has made it known he is willing to move.

Not controversial. All facts.

3 minutes ago, Blue-and-red said:

This will be controversial but what the hell….for me Trac has been ineffective for some time (poor disposal, hasn’t been able to improve goal kicking, always fumbles, can’t tackle, poor decision making and no leadership) and it is time to get the best we can for him on the trade table which is more than we will get for any others mentioned as tradeable at this stage - I.e. he delivers little, costs a lot but has the most collateral.

Do it respectfully and discreetly, not an open auction, but in conversation with him as he has made it known he is willing to move.

the issue remains that he is, seemingly, only willing to go somewhere, and that's to the filth

i doubt they have anything to offer us, and will make us pay for the privilege of him playing for them