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PREGAME: Rd 08 vs West Coast

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18 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

The eye test for me said he was influential in that quarter. Just shows we all see the game differently.

I beg to differ

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    7 hours ago, DemonOX said:

    Didn’t say he had a blinder but he is infectious with his attitude and good for the team. Put it this way I would keep him in the team before Fritta.

    Agree he has great attitude, has some niggle and doesnt deviate off the line. Just needs to get the footy.

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    3 hours ago, rpfc said:

    In this team, shots at goal should not be a determining factor in selection - it’s just not how the rewards settle from when we play our best. Chandlers manic pressure at one point led to a Petracca goal that CP5 pointed at Gawn for a competent handball - but it was Chandler - and the pressure applied by our other forwards - that brought about that goal. A goal that reads out to Petracca with a goal assist from a ruckman.

    He did point to Gawn but he also got around Chandler as did about half the team which was great to see. That kind of behaviour is infectious

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    2 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

    Remember 2024 v Eagles … Waterman kicked 5 last year. Like to see Turner back and assigned to Waterman.

    We got massacred in the mid field.

    That's where the game will be won

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    13 hours ago, bing181 said:

    Sestan could be one of those players who languishes in the lower leagues for ages and then it all clicks and he goes on to a 10-season AFL career.

    Or not.

    I agree with this, Sestan is about as natural a footballer as you’ll see. Even at lower levels, you don’t kick huge bags of goals without serious talent.

    He’s a great option to replace Melk into the future. In an AFL system, if allowed to play on instinct, he could do anything.

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    25 minutes ago, BW511 said:

    I agree with this, Sestan is about as natural a footballer as you’ll see. Even at lower levels, you don’t kick huge bags of goals without serious talent.

    He’s a great option to replace Melk into the future. In an AFL system, if allowed to play on instinct, he could do anything.

    The only worry I have with sestan is his disposal, by foot he is absolutely woeful. Outside of that he’s an amazing footballer, can’t wait to see him at some point this year because he’s 100 percent gonna get a few games.

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    On 25/04/2025 at 00:09, BoBo said:

    Just curious, does Sharp deserve a game above Tholstrup?

    On 25/04/2025 at 00:19, Disco InTurno said:

    I’m just trying to figure out why Tholstrup would be dropped…

    4 disposals

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    1 hour ago, LePig said:

    The only worry I have with sestan is his disposal, by foot he is absolutely woeful. Outside of that he’s an amazing footballer, can’t wait to see him at some point this year because he’s 100 percent gonna get a few games.

    Huh?

    He's an excellent kick - which is the key reason we why we drafted him

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    5 minutes ago, binman said:

    Huh?

    He's an excellent kick - which is the key reason we why we drafted him

    Just going off of a few things I’ve seen on here, I’ve got that one wrong clearly

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    An apology if this has been mentioned elsewhere:

    David King analysed Chris Scott's use of two ruckman (Stanley and Bilcavs) v the Hawks.

    Meek was confused when Stanley essentially only contested ball ups in and around the square and Bilcavs took all others and boundary throw ins.

    Meek was caught out numerous times. King reckons the Cats have been using this ploy for three years.

    I'd like to see us trying a similar strategy with Max ie Max staying between the arcs but not out to the wings.

    I know it would mean he wouldn't be taking those clutch marks both deep forward and deep back.

    If JvR plays he plays as a permanent forward in my team. It's the only way he'll develop.

    AJ rucks outside the square if he has the fitness. TC won't be part of our next flag. A slim chance AJ will.

    Maybe Turner doing some rucking if playing in the backline.

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    17 hours ago, rpfc said:

    In this team, shots at goal should not be a determining factor in selection - it’s just not how the rewards settle from when we play our best. Chandlers manic pressure at one point led to a Petracca goal that CP5 pointed at Gawn for a competent handball - but it was Chandler - and the pressure applied by our other forwards - that brought about that goal. A goal that reads out to Petracca with a goal assist from a ruckman.

    As Chin’s ultimate fanboy, the lack of recognition for that effort annoyed me.

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    3 hours ago, LePig said:

    The only worry I have with sestan is his disposal, by foot he is absolutely woeful.

    Outside of that he’s an amazing footballer, can’t wait to see him at some point this year because he’s 100 percent gonna get a few games.

    Hang on, what? 🤣

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    13 minutes ago, JJJ said:

    As Chin’s ultimate fanboy, the lack of recognition for that effort annoyed me.

    I think it came afterwards. Trac, probably rightly, went to Gawn for releasing the handball to someone with more time and space rather than kicking it himself under pressure. Consistent with what I’m sure we’ve been drilling into the players the last 2 weeks.

    I’m confident I saw them then get around Chandler, although I might be mistaken.

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    14 minutes ago, JJJ said:

    As Chin’s ultimate fanboy, the lack of recognition for that effort annoyed me.

    Lack of recognition by the team or Trac? A lot of the boys ran straight to Chandler for that super effort.

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    1 minute ago, titan_uranus said:

    I think it came afterwards. Trac, probably rightly, went to Gawn for releasing the handball to someone with more time and space rather than kicking it himself under pressure. Consistent with what I’m sure we’ve been drilling into the players the last 2 weeks.

    I’m confident I saw them then get around Chandler, although I might be mistaken.

    Nah you’re spot on. The camera followed Trac who went to Max to acknowledge the handball. He then went to Chin who was already surrounded by team mates congratulating him.

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    5 hours ago, Billy said:

    4 disposals

    Sharp had 4 in the last quarter by comparison

    FWIW. In my team

    Fritsch stays FF, Petty CHF

    JVR needs to get goals or assist from general play before returning. Set shots in reserves not enough to warrant return cos reserve backs arent much markingoppostion. Appears to be lumbering in general play. Not good at ground level. He seems to clutter the forward line leads straight but not able to dip and dart around or change direction quickly enough. Won two straight without him.

    Melksahm.is experienced and can mark high as can Kozzie. With Fritsch, Melksham Jefferson as mid-sized talls and Petty the main tall, forwards are flexible and mobile.

    Petty is a confidence player great mark but can get the yips kicking. If that happens can swing him back for Turner or MacDonald, both proven marks and forwards

    Turner in plays back, to swing forward if Petty not doing it and given time..not in and out

    Kozzie to do his thing as mid or forward

    Viney primarily tags best opposition mid. This week Reid

    Tholstrup needs to go to reserves and rip it apart...Living on faux reputation at present.

    Doesn't compare to Langford or Linsey at all.

    Melksham, with experience and footy smarts is in our best team at HFF takes Kolts place this week

    Sharp remains sub

    Rivers plays Half back, not doing it as mid, as should Windsor..both to run and carry and when they have it, the running and overlap kicks in in various unpredictable chaos directions

    Salem and Bowey remain the distributors

    May doesnt kick it out. Provides pack mark target with MacDonald or Max if required from kick out when no solo target in space and marks his man. Bowey/Salem kick out as distributors. Then May back to last line of defence

    Pressure forwards Pickett, Chandler Sparrow Spargo

    Langton and Lindsey wings

    In Melksham Jefferson

    Out Tholstrup Fullarton

    Lineup:

    Bowey May McVee

    Rivers MacDonald Salem

    Langton Oliver Lindsey

    Chandler Petty Pickett

    Spargo Fritsch Melksham

    Gawn Petracca Viney

    Langford rotating centres/ halfforwards

    Sparrow rotating centres/ halfforwards

    Windsor rotating centres/ hallfbacks

    Jefferson rotating half forwards/ff

    Sharp sub

    No clear 2nd Ruck..maybe Petty with Jefferson to CHF while that happens and MacDonald when it's back

    Hmmm??

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    4 hours ago, Adam The God said:

    Hang on, what? 🤣

    Yeah I’ve had a mare here. Late night and early morning and not to much going on in the brain 😹

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    Trac definitely went to Chandler afterwards.

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    On 25/04/2025 at 14:02, adonski said:

    Kolt has had a few very impressive moments of class (albeit from stuff all possessions) from his 2 games this year

    I am very surprised people want him dropped or subbed. Let him build into the year...

    After our win over Freo someone on here said how watching the match live showed things you don’t see when watching on TV. and in this case it was about Kolt and how enthusiastic he is out there, how he’s involved in setting up zones and he routinely yells to his teammates.

    I told him this was said about him and he said he wasn’t really aware he does this. He said he’s just being himself out there and this is true since he’s like this at training.

    We really do need Kolt out there. His youth and exuberance is valuable and his confidence is infectious. We’re a better side with him in it.

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    10 hours ago, LePig said:

    The only worry I have with sestan is his disposal, by foot he is absolutely woeful. Outside of that he’s an amazing footballer, can’t wait to see him at some point this year because he’s 100 percent gonna get a few games.

    Sorry LePig but the feedback that I have been hearing is that Oliver Seston has excellent foot skills just didn’t get the ball enough, however he seems to have turned this side of his game around and is really racking up disposals. At 6’2” in old terms he is the same size as Riv, so hoping to see him get a game at the earliest opportunity.👍😁

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    6 minutes ago, DeeZone said:

    Sorry LePig but the feedback that I have been hearing is that Oliver Seston has excellent foot skills just didn’t get the ball enough, however he seems to have turned this side of his game around and is really racking up disposals. At 6’2” in old terms he is the same size as Riv, so hoping to see him get a game at the earliest opportunity.👍😁

    Six two? Didn't realise he was that tall. Pretty big lad.

    He's not far away - if he can get super fit he has the tools to make it.

    And he has a bit of x factor about him I reckon, particularly with his kicking - hits really nice darts on the angle.

    He's looking ok down back, but I reckon long term he'll be a forward, which I'm pretty sure is where he's played most of his footy.

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    9 hours ago, M_9 said:

    An apology if this has been mentioned elsewhere:

    David King analysed Chris Scott's use of two ruckman (Stanley and Bilcavs) v the Hawks.

    Meek was confused when Stanley essentially only contested ball ups in and around the square and Bilcavs took all others and boundary throw ins.

    Meek was caught out numerous times. King reckons the Cats have been using this ploy for three years.

    I'd like to see us trying a similar strategy with Max ie Max staying between the arcs but not out to the wings.

    I know it would mean he wouldn't be taking those clutch marks both deep forward and deep back.

    If JvR plays he plays as a permanent forward in my team. It's the only way he'll develop.

    AJ rucks outside the square if he has the fitness. TC won't be part of our next flag. A slim chance AJ will.

    Maybe Turner doing some rucking if playing in the backline.

    Interesting @M_9, does this mean Meek was confused who to ruck against at each contest around the ground?

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    10 hours ago, M_9 said:

    An apology if this has been mentioned elsewhere:

    David King analysed Chris Scott's use of two ruckman (Stanley and Bilcavs) v the Hawks.

    Meek was confused when Stanley essentially only contested ball ups in and around the square and Bilcavs took all others and boundary throw ins.

    Meek was caught out numerous times. King reckons the Cats have been using this ploy for three years.

    I'd like to see us trying a similar strategy with Max ie Max staying between the arcs but not out to the wings.

    I know it would mean he wouldn't be taking those clutch marks both deep forward and deep back.

    If JvR plays he plays as a permanent forward in my team. It's the only way he'll develop.

    AJ rucks outside the square if he has the fitness. TC won't be part of our next flag. A slim chance AJ will.

    Maybe Turner doing some rucking if playing in the backline.

    Geelong have ordinary rucks, we do not. There's no need for us to do this. However, what we could do is play Max and Campbell as I believe @Harvey Wallbanger and perhaps @Slartibartfast have suggested...

    There's a chance we could sit Campbell on the bench when Max is in the on the ground, and vice versa.

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