Trac's a 30 year old on a massive contract. If he was coming to us no-one here would want to pay more than a couple of second rounders.

2 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Trac's a 30 year old on a massive contract. If he was coming to us no-one here would want to pay more than a couple of second rounders.

I don't get this. He could easily play five more years and be the difference between winning a flag or not. Picks are lottery tickets for players that take years to develop even if you find a good one.

A team like Adelaide should be in total win now mode.

We should also not be trading Trac unless we get overs since the club has made it very clear we expect to be playing finals next year.

2 minutes ago, Garbo said:

Pick 14 this year becomes something like 20, plus this years draft is quite weak as well. Even if you add future first that’s unlikely to be any better. I’d be accepting a starting pick of no worse than top 5 this year plus something equal next year. If crows can do that than we can pickup the phone

You need to be realistic. Tracc is 29 and had enough giving maximum effort for us.

A package that has his value around pick 10-15 is probably fair for both sides and even then we'd probably pay a chunk of his contract to help the Crows squeeze him in. If the Crows offer up the 2 firsts we'll have to send picks back the other way I'd guess.

As good as he's been for us we don't have a supporting cast around him that can challenge over the next few years.

He doesn't impact the game like Dangerfield does as a forward. Never has. He's a midfielder but we've got 2 other clearance dominant midfielders who have no trade value and desperately need to rebalance and regenerate our midfield around skilled running players as the best sides have.

5 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Trac's a 30 year old on a massive contract. If he was coming to us no-one here would want to pay more than a couple of second rounders.

It's always about context.

If we'd just come off two straight set exits and hadn't won a flag for over 25 years, and we saw Trac as a missing piece to our midfield and forward half, we might be more aggressive in our thinking.

Trac will give them 4 more years or more of quality service, but for us, we already have Clarry and Viney to bull it up.

If Trac is agitating for a move, then we ask for Thilthorpe or Rachele and another pick, and we move on.

Edited 9 hours ago9 hr by Adam The God

On 19/09/2025 at 11:02, 2021 said:

Can someone summarise?

Yep

28 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

You need to be realistic. Tracc is 29 and had enough giving maximum effort for us.

A package that has his value around pick 10-15 is probably fair for both sides and even then we'd probably pay a chunk of his contract to help the Crows squeeze him in. If the Crows offer up the 2 firsts we'll have to send picks back the other way I'd guess.

As good as he's been for us we don't have a supporting cast around him that can challenge over the next few years.

He doesn't impact the game like Dangerfield does as a forward. Never has. He's a midfielder but we've got 2 other clearance dominant midfielders who have no trade value and desperately need to rebalance and regenerate our midfield around skilled running players as the best sides have.

What do we get out of a package pick of 10-15, another mid range rookie or 2, why wouldn’t you just hold onto trac then? People are acting like we have no choice but to dump him for some reason, the fact that even Essendon is scoffing at pick 8 for Merrett when they have less bargaining power and a worse player tells you any deal less than that is just fantasy by whoever is offering. When you watch Dangerfield doing what he did the other night at age 35 should tell you trac potentially has many elite years left and any deal needs to reflect that

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37 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

You need to be realistic. Tracc is 29 and had enough giving maximum effort for us.

A package that has his value around pick 10-15 is probably fair for both sides and even then we'd probably pay a chunk of his contract to help the Crows squeeze him in. If the Crows offer up the 2 firsts we'll have to send picks back the other way I'd guess.

As good as he's been for us we don't have a supporting cast around him that can challenge over the next few years.

He doesn't impact the game like Dangerfield does as a forward. Never has. He's a midfielder but we've got 2 other clearance dominant midfielders who have no trade value and desperately need to rebalance and regenerate our midfield around skilled running players as the best sides have.

He’s worth a top 10 pick this year, unfortunately.

Edited 8 hours ago8 hr by 2021

1 hour ago, Garbo said:

Pick 14 this year becomes something like 20

This is an oft-quoted fallacy.

Given that other clubs (like us) aren't able to pick up the academy/father-sons stars, they don't really count.

Pick 14 still gets you pick 14 of available talent and you would be confident of getting a decent player, supposedly "weak" draft or not.

For all those also on Flanders watch

55 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

If Trac is agitating for a move, then we ask for Thilthorpe or Rachele and another pick,

Good luck with that.

2 hours ago, GCDee said:

14, F1 and Rachele

For Trac and 23

Send 14 to the suns for Flanders

In no world does this happen. Basically 3 first round picks.

Maybe if Trac was 25

Has Rachele secretly become a great player?

He’s good, but inconsistent. Not a star

Not sure if this has been posted:

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Adelaide just doesn’t have the capital and are apparently after Ahh Chee m. They have said they are not willing to o repay either. I’d be on the phone to GCS and be asking for Pick 6 and Flanders for Trac and 23. Otherwise no deal and he stays put. We hold all the cards so I hope Lamb has his eyelids glued open.

Edited 7 hours ago7 hr by GS_1905

2 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

You need to be realistic. Tracc is 29 and had enough giving maximum effort for us.

A package that has his value around pick 10-15 is probably fair for both sides and even then we'd probably pay a chunk of his contract to help the Crows squeeze him in. If the Crows offer up the 2 firsts we'll have to send picks back the other way I'd guess.

As good as he's been for us we don't have a supporting cast around him that can challenge over the next few years.

He doesn't impact the game like Dangerfield does as a forward. Never has. He's a midfielder but we've got 2 other clearance dominant midfielders who have no trade value and desperately need to rebalance and regenerate our midfield around skilled running players as the best sides have.

Firstly trac hasn’t impacted as a forward because he has never played as a forward. Goodwin didn’t have the luxury to play him in the forward line because of 2nd string midfielders have never stood up.

Secondly, no team is giving us picks if they are paying tracs full wage. Picks will only come our way if we are subsidising his salary.

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Edited 5 hours ago5 hr by Mouseymoo

42 minutes ago, Oxdee said:

Firstly trac hasn’t impacted as a forward because he has never played as a forward. Goodwin didn’t have the luxury to play him in the forward line because of 2nd string midfielders have never stood up.

Secondly, no team is giving us picks if they are paying tracs full wage. Picks will only come our way if we are subsidising his salary.

Agreed. I feel we'll push him towards GC, take Flanders and negotiate a pic out of them for paying some of his wage. 

GC have plenty of pics, so we can essentially "buy" one off them.

Good business all round 

6 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

He doesn't impact the game like Dangerfield does as a forward. Never has.

He had a 5 goal BOG game up forward last year. Also, a bit of recency effect with Danger, he wasn’t particularly impactful up forward 5 years ago.

6 hours ago, Demonstone said:

This is an oft-quoted fallacy.

Given that other clubs (like us) aren't able to pick up the academy/father-sons stars, they don't really count.

Pick 14 still gets you pick 14 of available talent and you would be confident of getting a decent player, supposedly "weak" draft or not.

The ‘fallacy’ is when posters take the pick at face value and ‘research’ players taken at that pick in the past. Available or not, we are looking for talent and ND14 isn’t what it used to be.

Honestly, I’m ready to give “Brand Trac” (or whatever malarkey he wants to ascribe to himself) the flick.

Lately he’s just exuded “bigger than the club” vibes, and they’ve always been my least favourite kind of footballer. If I’m wrong, point to the examples where I’m wrong

If players like this are the keys to success, I’ve no interest in the game. Some crew just want to chase flags. I’m not that crew. I like the club vibe.

I’m also drunk and sad in a very strange country.

And that brings its own perspective.

7 hours ago, bing181 said:

Trac's a 30 year old on a massive contract. If he was coming to us no-one here would want to pay more than a couple of second rounders.

Speak for yourself.

I know facts are not de rigueur around here - but Trac averages exactly the same number of goals per game as Danger. Oh [censored], I forgot. Everything wrong at Melbourne is somehow Trac's fault.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by Queanbeyan Demon

I find it really interesting how posters seem to be valuing trac as though he’s 35 and out of contract.

I think trac is still worthy of a really solid trade return. I don’t think the crows or suns are going to be coughing up A grade players, but I suspect the net return will be Flanders and a first round pick by the time all is said and done and I’m fairly happy with that personally

If trac wants to go he can go to an interstate club.

I don't want to see him in a black & white jumper.

If he goes to Adelaide he can take Shane mcadam with him.

17 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

I find it really interesting how posters seem to be valuing trac as though he’s 35 and out of contract.

I think trac is still worthy of a really solid trade return. I don’t think the crows or suns are going to be coughing up A grade players, but I suspect the net return will be Flanders and a first round pick by the time all is said and done and I’m fairly happy with that personally

I agree here. Flanders and 6 (which will likely slide to 9) is fair trade. Has Flanders reached the heights of Petracca or will he, no. But he will play A grade football for 6-8 years with attributes we need and give opportunity for JT to jag another elite youth. Then don't discount the value of cap $$$ saved in future years and moving on a player who appears to not be fully invested in a group Kings needs to galvanise for the road ahead. Will Trac play topline footy there for 2-3 years sure but this could be a win win.

I find the ability for Adelaide to craft a trade of similar value in player and picks much more difficult. As mentioned maybe there 2025 or 2026 F1 unlocks Flanders? It will be interesting to hear rumours of what is proposed either way if interest progresses.

What people need to understand is when it was nuclear last year we held our ground. If we deal this year WE (not he) have decided that what we receive nets the value we require to be better off moving forward.