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PREGAME: Rd 04 vs Geelong

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If Lever doesn't get up, I hope they play Adams.

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      On 01/04/2025 at 22:51, jnrmac said:

    Imagine the happy clappers - who have been very very quiet - coming out of the woodwork if we win.

    You know who you are

    Yeah, imagine all the doom and gloomers who have been shouting from the roof tops if we win!
    They know who they are!

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      On 02/04/2025 at 03:25, Young Angus said:

    5 points

    Will be lucky to get 5 kicks matched with zero intensity and inability or volition to chase

      On 02/04/2025 at 06:22, Roost it far said:

    Me too although I think they’ll stick with Howes.

    I wouldn't.


      On 02/04/2025 at 06:22, Roost it far said:

    Me too although I think they’ll stick with Howes.

    I wouldn't! But what would I know!??

      On 01/04/2025 at 22:51, jnrmac said:

    Imagine the happy clappers - who have been very very quiet - coming out of the woodwork if we win.

    You know who you are

    There forever waiting in anticipation to prove the naysayers wrong. Which camp are you?

      On 02/04/2025 at 06:22, Roost it far said:

    Me too although I think they’ll stick with Howes.

    I think we could play:

    Howes May Petty

    Bowey/Salem Adams Windsor

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      On 02/04/2025 at 05:54, BKKBooga said:

    When was the last time Lever, May and Salem played cracker games as a backline? Especially Salem...

    You wouldn't find a more overrated player on our list then Salem.

    Adds nothing other then useless dinky 20m switch kicks.

    Great servant but I'd be looking at trading him for a pick in the draft.

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      On 02/04/2025 at 06:59, dazzledavey36 said:

    You wouldn't find a more overrated player on our list then Salem.

    Adds nothing other then useless dinky 20m switch kicks.

    Great servant but I'd be looking at trading him for a pick in the draft.

    Who on earth would take him? Richmond maybe? But we are not getting anything more than a 3rd round pick. Which for this years draft is probably sufficient.


    A lot of talk from Goodwin about a strong review and expect a responce, not where we want to be blah blah blah this week against the cats.

    Will be very interesting to c how the players go considering how pathetic our responce was last week after the belting against North.

    Our responce or lack there of will tell us a lot about the players and coach.

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      On 02/04/2025 at 06:59, dazzledavey36 said:

    You wouldn't find a more overrated player on our list then Salem.

    Agree with this. Hasn’t really fired a shot since the grand final and has tallied a meagre 8 brownlow votes compared to Josh Kelly who’s had about 95.

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      On 30/03/2025 at 00:02, Rab D Nesbitt said:

    Can't believe I have tickets for this game and overnight accommodation organised 🤦‍♂️

    I was at 186! Never fully recovered. Never have nor ever will, visit the site of the massacre again.

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      On 31/03/2025 at 01:42, whatwhat say what said:

    TC injured in the vfl

    Apparently trained Wednesday

      On 02/04/2025 at 06:59, dazzledavey36 said:

    You wouldn't find a more overrated player on our list then Salem.

    Adds nothing other then useless dinky 20m switch kicks.

    Great servant but I'd be looking at trading him for a pick in the draft.

    Yep agree!


      On 02/04/2025 at 06:59, dazzledavey36 said:

    You wouldn't find a more overrated player on our list then Salem.

    Adds nothing other then useless dinky 20m switch kicks.

    Great servant but I'd be looking at trading him for a pick in the draft.

    Agreed. He was sorely missed when injured and it was good to have him fit and firing in 2021, as he became a key part of our success. Had an outstanding 2021 GF. He kept us in the game before Trac and co took over and won it.

    But Salem is overrated now as a good ball user. His kicks are mainly chip kicks either - slow and sideways 15 metres OR slow and forwards 15 metres, or he kicks it 35 metres up and under and in the clouds making it easy to defend. Disposal efficiency can be ok when you are slow and do 15 metre safe kicks. He takes too long to dispose of the footy. It allows the defence to set up. Also twice on the weekend he handballed directly to Suns players on the weekend (specsavers) . Salem is one player who needs the 240volts shock treatment of intensity to lift !!!

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    Always tough to win down the road in Geelong. However, over the last 10 matches we are 5-5. Add to that the fact that the Cats are not travelling all that well either and you would think we might be a chance.

    Goody put the pressure on with a demand for a response from the team. All well and good but possibly a week late. We were all whimper and no bang last game following on from a thrashing the week before. There has to be doubt about the players ability to respond. A repeat of the team performance of the last two weeks on Friday night will really put the media blowtorch fairly and squarely on all aspects of MFC footy department and rightly so.

    Leadership needs to step up. Off ground starting with selection and on ground starting with Gawn and the senior players.

    Match selectors need to start with a blank sheet of paper and look to play players that are fit, in form and ready to commit. Forget reputations, Forget what they have done in the past. Look at what they are doing now, week to week in the games, MFC or Casey, and put together a team that will attack the ball and the contest with bit of vigor and determination. This last couple of weeks there have been too many putting half hearted efforts chasing, contesting and tackling.

    Select and play to our strengths. Windsor and Langdon are class wingers. Play them there for 80% of their game time at least. Same with Petracca, 80% mid, Rivers, 80% back.

    Leaders on the ground leading from the front. Doing the hard yards, supporting and chastising when required. Demanding a standard of performance.

    I want the Dees to win but my expectations of a win are bery, very pow.

    Go Dees

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      On 02/04/2025 at 06:59, dazzledavey36 said:

    You wouldn't find a more overrated player on our list then Salem.

    Adds nothing other then useless dinky 20m switch kicks.

    Great servant but I'd be looking at trading him for a pick in the draft.

    Don’t think he is rated that highly by Dees fans but he is averaging 25 touches at over 70% efficiency

    Not sure he is the primary issue with our list right now but keep digging away

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      On 02/04/2025 at 08:40, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    Agree with this. Hasn’t really fired a shot since the grand final and has tallied a meagre 8 brownlow votes compared to Josh Kelly who’s had about 95.

    i forget - how many brownlows and flags does Kelly have again?

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      On 02/04/2025 at 11:50, DubDee said:

    Don’t think he is rated that highly by Dees fans but he is averaging 25 touches at over 70% efficiency

    Not sure he is the primary issue with our list right now but keep digging away

    Of course they're over 70%.. they're simply junk possession that go sideways 20m to a teammate.

    He has zero hurt factor and barely provides any run off half back.

    There is zero use to averaging 25 disposals per game if you do absolutely nothing with them. Stop getting caught up on what you read as simple easy stats.

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      On 02/04/2025 at 11:50, DubDee said:

    Don’t think he is rated that highly by Dees fans but he is averaging 25 touches at over 70% efficiency

    Not sure he is the primary issue with our list right now but keep digging away

    His defensive efforts are complete garbage. Watch last weeks game, his attempts to chase are laughable, especially for a backman.

    Accumulates cheap stats these days. I respect him for his past contribution, but he is either done or simply needs to work harder.

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    Salem had 20 possessions v Suns. Metres gained 240 !! Many junk slow sideways kicks He needs to do better. Quicker and more positive movement ASAP

    Compare to Daniel Rioli with 20 possessions (80% DE) and Bodhi Uwland with 15 possessions who gained 400 metres (93%DE). Run and carry and forward positive movement

    Coach Simon - please take heed of such simple advice

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      On 02/04/2025 at 11:54, dazzledavey36 said:

    Of course they're over 70%.. they're simply junk possession that go sideways 20m to a teammate.

    He has zero hurt factor and barely provides any run off half back.

    There is zero use to averaging 25 disposals per game if you do absolutely nothing with them. Stop getting caught up on what you read as simple easy stats.

    I was simply replied to your claim as Salem being the most overrated player by Dees fans.

    I don’t think he is amazing. He will not be Rioli breaking lines, he has always kicked little dinky kicks. He plays his role.

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      On 02/04/2025 at 03:51, jnrmac said:

    Don't like your odds. He's only done it twice since the 21 GF.

    But its more the lack of defensive pressure and inability to get the ball that sees him woefully out of form. In a system based game its cancerous if one player cant tackle or play a defensive role.

    I hope you're right but if Goodwin doesn't drop him it sends a crud signal to everyone else. Selection integrity out the window yet again

    No, just play him close to goal

    That is what his real job is

    Goodwin is spending too much time playing guys in new positions

    Play to your strengths….

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      On 02/04/2025 at 13:05, DubDee said:

    I was simply replied to your claim as Salem being the most overrated player by Dees fans.

    I don’t think he is amazing. He will not be Rioli breaking lines, he has always kicked little dinky kicks. He plays his role.

    Actually, Salem used to often kick 40 metre flat kicks. And he was formerly far more decisive with his disposals

    In the first half in the 2021 GF, Salem was responsible for 5 x Inside 50 entries with those same 40 metre flat passes

    We haven't really seen it much since so I don't know what has happened to his game

    McVee fills part of the void when fit and Rivers isn't too bad on occasions

    We really need to get some fast drive forward from our half back line. And that's not a new thing either has many of the premiership teams through the decades have possessed that quick drive from the half backline

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