2 minutes ago, Ghostwriter said:

Right? It’s 2025, not 1955. But you wouldn’t know it on here. The majority are fine, it’s the minority of cavemen who do the damage.

Little men with little problems ghosty

Not surprised. I don't think he had the best year but he's still young & hopefully we can find a replacement.

Look at least he's going home & not to another Victorian club or a Sydney or Queensland team.

It is what it is

5 minutes ago, Ghostwriter said:

Right? It’s 2025, not 1955. But you wouldn’t know it on here. The majority are fine, it’s the minority of cavemen who do the damage.

9 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

If only you weren’t a female poster hey 🙄

12 minutes ago, Ghostwriter said:

Just wondering if @Dannyz is being patronised and/or insulted for also saying Judd signed months ago.

Thought not.

Who is dannyz?

12 minutes ago, BLWNBA said:

We’re all shaped by our own experiences, perspectives, morals and ethics. I don’t think lying is entirely ‘good’ or ‘bad’, it’s entirely contextual and like many things in life, I don’t think you can merely assign a binary answer to it.

There’s also a difference between a lie, and a mistruth, to be a pedant.

No, I explicitly don’t think an employee has any obligation to state their intentions to someone, other than their manager and at a certain point, their club of employment and a subsequent new club. Live in the real world.

Props to you if you’ve never ‘lied’ to an employer.

I don’t think there’s anything surprisingly or ‘wrong’ about what’s unfolded and I’m not even disputing what he’s apparently said to people. But given the conventions of the AFL system, how player movement works, and the nature of keeping a player that’s OOC and isn’t signing in the context of the AFL, and you still thought he’d likely sign… well, yeah, I would call you naive.

So apparently we are in complete agreement, you just use posh words and I say 'white lie'. (Though why you threw in that sarcastic line about me never having lied to an employer seems odd in the context of my post - I didn't claim to be snow white).

But you miss the point in your last para. What you say about player movement etc is true and we'd be naive to draw any firm conclusions until the ink has dried on a contract in the absence of any other information. Agreed. But I don't think it is naive to believe a player who has personally said to you "I've signed". You have to have some faith in personal relationships and that people are not always likey to be lying or you live in hell.

Redlegs conjecture about Judd possibly having signed but his manager sat on it is interesting. Would I be naive to think that is a possibility, or would I be naive to think that is impossible?

22 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Ahh... Ghosty... well done to face the "press" as it were. You did nothing more than pass on your info. Decent of you. Some might suggest it was naive to take 'that Dudd' at his word but why wouldn't you. No reason to doubt. Lost among the trees it would have been hard to make out the Forest... all those WA Redgums...

We win some, lose some

Keep punching !!

So now Judd is a Dudd. Unbelievable. Hes a twenty two year old man who was making the biggest decision of his life. I wish him well and hope the club makes ude of the pick/ swap.

Was he only offered a 2 yr contract to anyone’s knowledge?

18 minutes ago, 48 Year Now said:

What a low thing to say. Its a business , he owes this ghost bloke nothing but contempt for asking.

Funniest thing I’ve read all day 🤣

1 minute ago, Ghostwriter said:

Funniest thing I’ve read all day 🤣

glad you are amused tuppence.

21 minutes ago, 48 Year Now said:

What a low thing to say. Its a business , he owes this ghost bloke nothing but contempt for asking.

Edited 12 hours ago12 hr by Stiff Arm

6 minutes ago, 48 Year Now said:

So now Judd is a Dudd. Unbelievable. Hes a twenty two year old man who was making the biggest decision of his life. I wish him well and hope the club makes ude of the pick/ swap.

He's dudd to me .....

Only care really about this club.... not the other 17.

He definitely dudded us.

3 minutes ago, Jakkaa said:

Was he only offered a 2 yr contract to anyone’s knowledge?

That's what was reported

It is posters like Dannyz and Ghosty I come on here to read. Being in another state their insight and personal stories allow me to feel more a part of the supporter base and closer to the goings on so please keep on a posting. Snipers will snipe, haters will hate and a desire to “I told you so” is just bloody annoying.

As for Juddy I reckon he is a significant loss but not disastrous. He also had a chance to be a part of our baby demons coming through but has chosen not to be. Just hope we get decent compensation.

We need players. Straight trade for Cooper Simpson

Aussie Rules Rookie Me Central

Cooper Simpson Draft Profile

Dandenong Stingrays co-captain Cooper Simpson is a clean and quick midfielder who hits the scoreboard and has noted leadership qualities.

For perspective, I just checked the Demonland Player of the Year voting to see how Judd McVee went in 2025 with Demonlanders who were the ones who cast the votes.

He polled three votes, a mere 295 behind the winner and wasn't in our top 20 votegetters.

Appreciate that he did much better last year but you're only as good as your last game.

1 hour ago, Canplay said:

He originally fell out with the club because he was demanding his girlfriend be able to join him on every interstate road trip - feels anxious when she’s not around….. club did not want to lose him but won’t miss Judds immaturity and the hand holding required

Going to have a lot more interstate trips now

27 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Matthew Johnson could be ok.

Are Aiden Riddle or Cooper Simpson players we could look at?

I quite liked the look of Simpson in the small bits I've seen of him. Only played the 3 games this year though so obviously has some limitations or flaws to his game. Perhaps @Pennant St Dee might have a better idea on if he's an ideal target and how he's looked at wafl level?

The Jackson move never sat right with me and this one feels worse to me in some regards.

I appreciate that some are more circumspect and i'm already of the opinion that AMW will be able to be that attacking half back.

Imo, I think blatantly lying to ghosty and danny is absolutely reprehensible and not something i'll forget anytime soon.

Loyalty and repaying the faith are clearly a dying concept.

Good riddance Judd.

Just now, Random Task said:

I quite liked the look of Simpson in the small bits I've seen of him. Only played the 3 games this year though so obviously has some limitations or flaws to his game. Perhaps @Pennant St Dee might have a better idea on if he's an ideal target and how he's looked at wafl level?

Just now, Random Task said:

I quite liked the look of Simpson in the small bits I've seen of him. Only played the 3 games this year though so obviously has some limitations or flaws to his game. Perhaps @Pennant St Dee might have a better idea on if he's an ideal target and how he's looked at wafl level?

Broke into the team midway through the year then did a really nasty shoulder injury that kept him out. I watched one of his games before that and he looked pretty good off half back. Apparently a new role for him this year after being tried half forward for a while.

Contracted until 2027 though so would be a separate trade from Judd.

4 minutes ago, Chelly said:

...Appreciate that he did much better last year but you're only as good as your last game.

So by that measure Danger and Cameron are hacks! 😂

7 minutes ago, Random Task said:

I quite liked the look of Simpson in the small bits I've seen of him. Only played the 3 games this year though so obviously has some limitations or flaws to his game. Perhaps @Pennant St Dee might have a better idea on if he's an ideal target and how he's looked at wafl level?

Looks good throughout the clip, ball use is one of our biggest concerns so if he can bring the great kicking off halfback like he showed id be interested

Not the first to lie and won't be the last - but it does remind me of this ripper - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFGGD_d9GnQ

I don’t expect to get a good return at all for McVee given he’s out of contract. If Geelong gave the Dogs pick 17 for this year’s third best player of the year in the out of contract Bailey Smith, how on earth can we expect anything better than pick 35 for a player that largely stunk it up this year (albeit McVee was very good in 2023 and 2024)

Looking now like a real step back year (next year) assuming Trac and May also depart.

3 hours ago, Adam The God said:

We plucked him out of nowhere.

Does it open a Jackson door?

No,LJ ain't coming back.id be more worried about Riv leaving next year

So .... what's the haps !!

What's gnus with you...