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29 minutes ago, Jibroni said:

Ethan I imagine Perth radio is about to go into meltdown with the West Coast Carlton trade?

WTH are they thinking?

It’s been in meltdown all morning as news broke overnight about the trade.

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59 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

So many options at pick 5 and pick 9.  The top 15 “available”. are very good quality , being mostly midfielders  but also taller types like Armstrong, Trainor, Tauru and Shanahan.  

Sam Lalor- GWV. mid/utility 

Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh. mid/utility

Harvey Langford- Dandenong. tall mid

Sid Draper - Sth Adel. mid 

Jagga Smith - Oakleigh. Mid. 

Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland. mid/hbf

Josh Smillie - Eastern. Tall mid. 

Tobe Travaglia - Bendigo. Running mid/hbf.

Murphy Reid - Sandringham. Mid.

Taj Hotton - Sandringham. Mid/hff

Bo Allan - WA. Mid

Luke Trainor -Sandringham.️ Tall fwd/back

Alix Tauru - Gippsland. tall fwd/back

Harry Armstrong - Sandringham. Key fwd

Jobe Shanahan - Bendigo (NSW) . Key fwd

Thanks, Spirit

A lot of us aren't up with the possible candidates but a trait of Jason Taylor's high end or 1st round draft picks are those who get to a lot of contests and hunt the ball

So out of the midfielers listed, who amongst them has a fierce attack on the ball?  The question is for anyone who might know

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West Coast are obviously thinking potentially Bo Allen, Liam Baker and Matt Owies > Pick 3. It's not a ridiculous notion but i wouldn't have done this trade personally. 

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I’d be getting the microwave out if I was a West Coast fan 

I understand the strategy, but they could have bought in Sheezel, Reid and one of Smith/FOS/Lalor over the past three years and be set with an elite midfield for a decade…

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21 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

West Coast are obviously thinking potentially Bo Allen, Liam Baker and Matt Owies > Pick 3. It's not a ridiculous notion but i wouldn't have done this trade personally. 

Yep. they need players, not the next promise. 

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At 9, hope for either Lindsay, Travaglia or Tauru. Each are also very special youngsters with definite AFL quality futures.  Each would also be ready for AFL in 2025. 
 

Josh Smillie is an absolute wildcard for me.  I’d be doubtful if he gets past the Saints.  At start of the year, he was a possible number 1.  His form was generally very good and he dominated Coates league footy. But his championships games were average and I think clubs saw his defensive skills as lacking.  But his talent is undeniable.  194cms big and strong and good burst across first 5 metres. Kicks it 50-60 metres easily.  His centre clearance work is Cripps like.  Whoever gets him and then puts the necessary extra physical conditioning into him, could get an absolute steal and a future great.   

 

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16 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

At 9, hope for either Lindsay, Travaglia or Tauru. Each are also very special youngsters with definite AFL quality futures.  Each would also be ready for AFL in 2025. 
 

Josh Smillie is an absolute wildcard for me.  I’d be doubtful if he gets past the Saints.  At start of the year, he was a possible number 1.  His form was generally very good and he dominated Coates league footy. But his championships games were average and I think clubs saw his defensive skills as lacking.  But his talent is undeniable.  194cms big and strong and good burst across first 5 metres. Kicks it 50-60 metres easily.  His centre clearance work is Cripps like.  Whoever gets him and then puts the necessary extra physical conditioning into him, could get an absolute steal and a future great.   

 

Smillie has been the hardest to get a read on for me. Some say he's best as a half-back, others say he's a Cripps like big bodied mid who could go forward. 

Potential is definitely there though and if he can build a tank he could be anything. 

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50 minutes ago, Macca said:

Thanks, Spirit

A lot of us aren't up with the possible candidates but a trait of Jason Taylor's high end or 1st round draft picks are those who get to a lot of contests and hunt the ball

So out of the midfielers listed, who amongst them has a fierce attack on the ball?  The question is for anyone who might know

Langford is the standout ball winner. (Smillie was but had a quiet national champs, was he the gifted kid who got distracted or did he peak last year?)

Lalor hasn’t proven it due to injury and cricket summers but he has the explosive body to do it.

Draper has good stoppage craft and won the ball pretty well after a slow start at SANFL level. 

FOS - you’re picking him for his outside game but it’s not like he can’t win it. He’d be more of a Kossie pick than an Oliver style JT pick. But if we liked Kako we probably like FOS.

Jagga racks the footy up for fun including at VFL level. You can’t question his work rate and reading of the ball at stoppages, but I have doubts on the value of what he does and the way he wins the footy.

Langford and Lalor are the 2 who scream JT guys

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12 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Langford is the standout ball winner. (Smillie was but had a quiet national champs, was he the gifted kid who got distracted or did he peak last year?)

Lalor hasn’t proven it due to injury and cricket summers but he has the explosive body to do it.

Draper has good stoppage craft and won the ball pretty well after a slow start at SANFL level. 

FOS - you’re picking him for his outside game but it’s not like he can’t win it. He’d be more of a Kossie pick than an Oliver style JT pick. But if we liked Kako we probably like FOS.

Jagga racks the footy up for fun including at VFL level. You can’t question his work rate and reading of the ball at stoppages, but I have doubts on the value of what he does and the way he wins the footy.

Langford and Lalor are the 2 who scream JT guys

Langford/Lalor into Lindsay/Travaglia is the dream for me 

Tauru looks a gem but I think another tall is down the list in terms of need for us

As always I’ll back JT in - trust him more than anyone else at the club 

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10 minutes ago, demoncat said:

Langford/Lalor into Lindsay/Travaglia is the dream for me 

Tauru looks a gem but I think another tall is down the list in terms of need for us

As always I’ll back JT in - trust him more than anyone else at the club 

Yeah I’ll second that. Think Lindsay would be good pick up at 9 to compliment not just Lalor/Langdord but also Windsor and the Kolt. 

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1 minute ago, Supreme_Demon said:

Luke Trainor might be another possibility if we are looking for a long-term replacement for Steven May?

 

Here is Luke Trainor's highlights video:

 

He's got concussion issue that is scaring clubs off.

Expect him to slide significantly. 

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3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

He's got concussion issue that is scaring clubs off.

Expect him to slide significantly. 

Hmmm ok...that's a shame.

What are your thoughts on Xavier Lindsay? Best kick in this year's draft?

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18 minutes ago, Supreme_Demon said:

Hmmm ok...that's a shame.

What are your thoughts on Xavier Lindsay? Best kick in this year's draft?

I've seen a few comments on Lindsay that say he's similar to Billings. 

I don't see it that way at all. During the Coates League he played majority of his games as an inside midfielder and showed that he was willing to get his hands dirty and win the contested footy.

Some vision here.

 

 

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Not necessarily advocating for this, but...

There's a lot of angst among WC fans about them dropping to 12, and with Freo having the 2 picks above them it's unlikely they'll get Bo Allen. Would they significantly overpay to get 9, say 12 and a future 1st for 9 and our future 2nd? Maybe something crazy they'll throw up on draft night?

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Lalor or Langford at 5.

Lindsay or Travaglia at 9.  

The options here bring in two high quality youngsters.  

With Kolt and Windsor from 2023, it’s the “Rebuild on the run”. 
 

Now we  pray for Jefferson over the summer 🤞🤞🤞🤞… gets some aggro pills and puts in a huge preseason in the gym & on the track.  

 

 

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48 minutes ago, Mickey said:

Not necessarily advocating for this, but...

There's a lot of angst among WC fans about them dropping to 12, and with Freo having the 2 picks above them it's unlikely they'll get Bo Allen. Would they significantly overpay to get 9, say 12 and a future 1st for 9 and our future 2nd? Maybe something crazy they'll throw up on draft night?

So to fix the mistake of paying overs they pay overs again? 

Let's hope so.

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11 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Lalor or Langford at 5.

Lindsay or Travaglia at 9.  

The options here bring in two high quality youngsters.  

With Kolt and Windsor from 2023, it’s the “Rebuild on the run”. 
 

Now we  pray for Jefferson over the summer 🤞🤞🤞🤞… gets some aggro pills and puts in a huge preseason in the gym & on the track.  

 

 

I would have put Jefferson on the plane with Trac to do some hard training at Red Bull - I know that’s not how it works but he does need to up his intensity big time 

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1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I've seen a few comments on Lindsay that say he's similar to Billings. 

I don't see it that way at all. During the Coates League he played majority of his games as an inside midfielder and showed that he was willing to get his hands dirty and win the contested footy.

Some vision here.

 

 

His football IQ to me is much better than Billings' and seems to do inside and outside very well. I like him a lot. 

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27 minutes ago, BAMF said:

So to fix the mistake of paying overs they pay overs again? 

Let's hope so.

🤞

I think the angst will only increase if Freo nab Allen just ahead of them

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