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5 hours ago, 58er said:

I think Binman has the best opinion on Fritta. He is irreplaceable in our forward line and an extra 20 goals to 60 would be priceless for our forward line. 
in fact all our forwards plus new recruits XL Langford and AJ plus Sharp can all add to our flexibility and goals to make up the necessary points up to 90 plus for a Finals team. 

I would hate for Fat Tony to summarise the weaknesses of all our forwards based on his summary of Fritta. 

Last season was his worst really so I have full confidence he will be back in his best with support from new players and existing alike to ensure we get back to a confidence that will ensure a forward line with many options for the crest of the competition to fear. 

Binman had foot in mouth syndrome and suggested Langford or Johnson would be the cause for Fritta to be dropped.

Yes his intensity is a concern, but his goal kicking is too valuable. The club goes from a 12 goal kicking game to a 10 goal game on average. No point weakening an already weak part of the game. 
 

Scoring is fundamentally what wins a game. To put it in a simplistic way. 

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Posted
59 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

In other words he’s safe as houses

On the safer side, yes.

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A lot of posters claiming Fritsch’s po

On 03/01/2025 at 17:40, binman said:

Well let's not over egg the pudding on the goal kicking front.

Sure he topped our goal kicking list, but he only kicked 41 goals.

Who would take his spot if dropped?

Well for a start Langford, who is 3cms taller than Fritter, will likely be a forward mid.

So Fritta has got one more medium forward to compete with next season - two if you count AJ. 

Melk is a medium option as is McAdam if he comes good.

Again, Fritter is a gun. Love him.

But if his intensity is not AFL standard he'll find himself out of the team. 

I would argue a lot of mids / flankers disposal inside fwd 50 or in general play is not AFL standard, also our gameplan of bombing long into a congested fwd line is not AFL standard. On occasions last year when we moved the ball quickly and direct into our fwd 50 we saw the difference yet we always revert back. 
Fritsch at the Pies, Giants etc would be on the end of better delivery and find himself in space. 
 

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On 04/01/2025 at 09:55, Fat Tony said:

An issue with Fritsch is that he is really only valuable as the deepest forward. He is not a great kick inside 50, is one sided and lacks the effort when the ball hits the deck. This means that he can be a liability up the ground and we need to structure our forward line with him close to goal.

I agree his defensive efforts are lacking but when the ball hits the ground and it’s and it’s there to be won he is very agile and skilful.

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8 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

He’s a great mark of the footy and uses his body well in those contests. 

He is indeed - pound for pound one of the best one on one marks in the AFL.

And a brilliant kick.

He's a gun, one of my favourite players.

And to be clear, I expect him to be in our best 22 In 2025. He should be, he is one of our very best players.

But as I've noted intensity is a non negotiable. As is defensive pressure, one percenters and defensive gut running.

It's been a long time since a player can be poor in those non negotiable areas and not be at risk of being dropped, regardless of the number of goals he's kicking (well I guess if we was kicking 100 a season he might be safe - but fritters not in that camp).

Leaving aside selection, players who meet those non negotiable kpis play their best footy.

It's no coincidence Fritter's two highest goal scoring seasons (2021 and 2022), and the two best seasons of his career, correspond to his two highest number of tackles in a season. 

Fritter has plenty of credit in the bank, but lost a little bit of that credit last season.

But as Redleg noted he had several barriers to playing his best footy last season - one of which was, like many teammates, he was never fit enough (another player who had an interrupted preseasons). 

He looks very focused at training, and is working very hard so I'm confident he'll be come our firing and be the best 22 lock he deserves to be.

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Posted
38 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

I agree his defensive efforts are lacking but when the ball hits the ground and it’s and it’s there to be won he is very agile and skilful.

Only when inside 50. 

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3 hours ago, binman said:

He is indeed - pound for pound one of the best one on one marks in the AFL.

And a brilliant kick.

He's a gun, one of my favourite players.

And to be clear, I expect him to be in our best 22 In 2025. He should be, he is one of our very best players.

But as I've noted intensity is a non negotiable. As is defensive pressure, one percenters and defensive gut running.

It's been a long time since a player can be poor in those non negotiable areas and not be at risk of being dropped, regardless of the number of goals he's kicking (well I guess if we was kicking 100 a season he might be safe - but fritters not in that camp).

Leaving aside selection, players who meet those non negotiable kpis play their best footy.

It's no coincidence Fritter's two highest goal scoring seasons (2021 and 2022), and the two best seasons of his career, correspond to his two highest number of tackles in a season

Fritter has plenty of credit in the bank, but lost a little bit of that credit last season.

But as Redleg noted he had several barriers to playing his best footy last season - one of which was, like many teammates, he was never fit enough (another player who had an interrupted preseasons). 

He looks very focused at training, and is working very hard so I'm confident he'll be come our firing and be the best 22 lock he deserves to be.

That is interesting, was not aware of that.


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Fritsch needs to stay close to goal, it’s pretty simple. Inside 40m with even slightly better ball movement he’s a weapon. If we want to have him influence games we need to move it a bit quicker and lower the eyes into the 50. Not all our inside 50’s need to be like that. We can still kick it long if needed and we’re set up defensively. But when we get a faster break he’s rarely in the wrong spot. He’s a 2-3 a game goal kicker in these circumstances. Calling for his head was at times warranted last year, his second efforts were abysmal and third efforts non existent. I’m expecting a much better year this year. If not, realistically who’s his replacement because McAdam is a long shot and I think Melksham can play alongside him if his form warrants.

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31 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Fritsch needs to stay close to goal, it’s pretty simple. Inside 40m with even slightly better ball movement he’s a weapon. If we want to have him influence games we need to move it a bit quicker and lower the eyes into the 50. Not all our inside 50’s need to be like that. We can still kick it long if needed and we’re set up defensively. But when we get a faster break he’s rarely in the wrong spot. He’s a 2-3 a game goal kicker in these circumstances. Calling for his head was at times warranted last year, his second efforts were abysmal and third efforts non existent. I’m expecting a much better year this year. If not, realistically who’s his replacement because McAdam is a long shot and I think Melksham can play alongside him if his form warrants.

Agree on fritter being at his best leading out from the goal square an on the fast break when he can get one out and/or lead into space.

Jeffo is interesting because I reckon he's similar. Can you have two such players in the same team?

Perhaps. But only with fast ball movement.

Jeffo and Fritter leading from the square with Turner and JVR waxing at CHF.

From what I saw at training it would be folly to underestimate melk.

Looks is ripping nick, and his field kicking in matcch sim drill was sublime - 50 metre darts that opened up the play or hit leading forwards lace out.

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16 hours ago, binman said:

Agree on fritter being at his best leading out from the goal square an on the fast break when he can get one out and/or lead into space.

Jeffo is interesting because I reckon he's similar. Can you have two such players in the same team?

Perhaps. But only with fast ball movement.

Jeffo and Fritter leading from the square with Turner and JVR waxing at CHF.

From what I saw at training it would be folly to underestimate melk.

Looks is ripping nick, and his field kicking in matcch sim drill was sublime - 50 metre darts that opened up the play or hit leading forwards lace out.

How good does Melk look!!???

PHWOAR. Seriously. He's got another year or two in him, easy, in that nick. Always been a big fan of Melk, and he plays such an important role in the team. To have him starting fit this year is such a big win for us. Maybe it's the new year vibe in me, but I am feeling pretty good about our forward line. With Fritter also starting fresh, and hopefully a little more renewed mongrel from him in the 50, I reckon we will be a tricky matchup for most teams. 

Melk would look even better with a big cup at the end of this year... 

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