WERRIDEE 5,638 Posted December 9, 2024 Posted December 9, 2024 After reading all the training reports. This is my round 1 23. B: Lever, May, McVee HB: Salem, McDonald, Windsor C: Sharp, Rivers, Langdon HF: Petracca, Turner, Tholstrup F: Fritsch, van Rooyen, Chandler FOLL: Gawn, Oliver, Viney IC: Bowey, Langford, Sparrow, Petty SUB: Melksham EMERG: McAdam, Jefferson, Lindsay Casey B: Hore, Adams, Smith HB: Howes, Fullerton, Moniz-Wakefield C: Woewodin, Laurie, Brown HF: Spargo, Johnson, Sestan F: McAdam, Jefferson, Billings FOLL: Campbell, Lindsay, Culley IC: Verrall, Mentha, Hardie, Kentfield SUS: Pickett 1 1 Quote
BAMF 4,485 Posted December 9, 2024 Posted December 9, 2024 (edited) 10 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said: After reading all the training reports. This is my round 1 23. B: Lever, May, McVee HB: Salem, McDonald, Windsor C: Sharp, Rivers, Langdon HF: Petracca, Turner, Tholstrup F: Fritsch, van Rooyen, Chandler FOLL: Gawn, Oliver, Viney IC: Bowey, Langford, Sparrow, Petty SUB: Melksham EMERG: McAdam, Jefferson, Lindsay Casey B: Hore, Adams, Smith HB: Howes, Fullerton, Moniz-Wakefield C: Woewodin, Laurie, Brown HF: Spargo, Johnson, Sestan F: McAdam, Jefferson, Billings FOLL: Campbell, Lindsay, Culley IC: Verrall, Mentha, Hardie, Kentfield SUS: Pickett I see. With Petty training with both forwards and back you place him on the bench. I don't know myself yet. I feel like Petty will have to battle TMac for that defensive position and Johnson up front. TMac won't be giving up that spot lightly. I'm thinking that Johnson could be ready to go up front and has more flexibility with ruck depth. I want to hear more about Johnson before making a call, but Petty might be spending time at Casey. Edit: on another note we both still have Laurie in the centre. I'm not convinced this is good for his development but we still don't have many options at the inside mid position with so many inside players in the senior team Edited December 9, 2024 by BAMF 3 Quote
58er 6,872 Posted December 9, 2024 Posted December 9, 2024 On 03/12/2024 at 20:35, WERRIDEE said: Now that we know who our 2nd Cat B rookie is it's time to do my final 46 Melbourne B: Lever, May, McVee HB: Salem, Petty, Bowey C: Windsor, Rivers, Langdon HF: Petracca, Turner, Pickett F: Fritsch, van Rooyen, Chandler FOLL: Gawn, Oliver, Viney IC: Lindsay, Langford, Sparrow, Melksham SUB: Tholstrup EMERG: Sharp, McDonald, Jefferson Casey B: Hore, Adams, D.Smith HB: Howes, McDonald, Moniz-Wakefield C: Sharp, Laurie, Brown HF: Spargo, Johnson, Sestan F: McAdam, Jefferson, Kentfield FOLL: Campbell, Billings, Woewodin IC: Verrall, Fullerton, George, Mentha, Casey youngster EMERG: Bonner, Baldi, Surk I agree with Windsor not at half back in fact centre should be his spot. If Goody prioritises half back vs wing or centre for Duke then he is again putting defence over attack and team attacking flair. Windsor on the centreline is a hoslkicker and pressure player on the opposition defence he is so good. He will kick 15/20 goals from the centre in 2025 if given the chance and truly make a huge difference to our attacking flair. Half back no Judd can do that and also Dalo and Bowser or AMW or Howes. Look at those options why waste Windsor at HB. I also believe Jeffo will be in our 23 by about Round 3/4 and Tmac might slso be. Thay would be improvements as well as Sharp over Sparrow in our team. His extra pace and forward play will also lift our team in 2025 from that one pace to fast with Windsor Sharp Kossie and Lindsay all contributing to a faster more aggressive game plan. These changes may take a few rounds but form will dictate that in time as the cream will rise to the top. Then our depth will be also strengthened accordingly. 2 Quote
58er 6,872 Posted December 9, 2024 Posted December 9, 2024 On 04/12/2024 at 18:40, WERRIDEE said: I guess I got it wrong George isn't a Cat B rookie. He's just a train on in case someone gets injured. so here's my round 1 team B: Lever, May, McVee HB: Salem, Petty, Windsor C: Sharp, Rivers, Langdon HF: Petracca, Turner, Chandler F: Fritsch, van Rooyen, Jefferson FOLL: Gawn, Oliver, Viney IC: Melksham, McDonald, Langford, Lindsay SUB: Sparrow Casey B: Hore, Adams, Bowey HB: Howes, Fullerton, Moniz-Wakefield C: Woewodin, Laurie, Brown HF: Spargo, Johnson, Sestan F: McAdam, Kentfield, Billings FOLL: Campbell, Bonner, Tholstrup IC: Verrall, Mentha, George, D.Smith, Casey younster SUS: Pickett That’s more like it Werridee New Age vs Old Firm is the go. 1 Quote
WERRIDEE 5,638 Posted December 10, 2024 Posted December 10, 2024 I feel that we don't need to debut a lot of players immediately. Langford and Sharp will debut but Lindsay, Jefferson and Johnson will have to bide their time. 2 1 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,689 Posted December 10, 2024 Posted December 10, 2024 My team if we had to pick a side to play right now: FB: McDonald May McVee HB: Windsor Petty Bowey C; Landgon Tracc Langford HF: Tholstrup JVR Laurie FF: Fritsch Disco Chandler Foll: Gawn Rivers Viney Int: Salem, Oliver, Sharp, Johnson S: Sparrow Susp: Pickett Inj: Lever, Spargo, Lindsay, McAdam In contention: Howes, Hore, AMW, Kynan Brown, Woewodin, Billings, Jefferson, Melksham Petty probably goes forward if Lever is back. And I highly suspect if just one of AMW or Howes can demand the back pocket job that Windsor goes back to the wing. Half forward is a weakness especially if Pickett is out. Need McAdam and Spargo in full training fighting for a spot. Don't feel great about Langford on a wing or Sharp in the best 22 yet. But I just have a hunch Langford will do well swapping between wing and forward and then we need someone to do some forward/wing coverage. Might be Sharp or Billings first up, hopefully Lindsay can push for a spot quickly, even if it's at half back and Windsor moves to the wing again. 2 Quote
Deemania since 56 6,810 Posted December 10, 2024 Posted December 10, 2024 16 hours ago, BAMF said: I see. With Petty training with both forwards and back you place him on the bench. I don't know myself yet. I feel like Petty will have to battle TMac for that defensive position and Johnson up front. TMac won't be giving up that spot lightly. I'm thinking that Johnson could be ready to go up front and has more flexibility with ruck depth. I want to hear more about Johnson before making a call, but Petty might be spending time at Casey. Edit: on another note we both still have Laurie in the centre. I'm not convinced this is good for his development but we still don't have many options at the inside mid position with so many inside players in the senior team I would like to hear (as I now live afar from Melb) more about Johnson, not just in photos/live images but also from track-watchers and critical eye analyses. So far, Johnson seems to have raised a few comments; I wish to find out how he might play in the side as a deep forward and back-up ruck for Max. Can anyone assist? 3 1 Quote
WERRIDEE 5,638 Posted December 10, 2024 Posted December 10, 2024 (edited) I felt I needed to put McAdam in he has to show his worth early after a wasted season. B: Lever, May, McVee HB: Salem, McDonald, Windsor C: Bowey, Rivers, Langdon HF: Petracca, Turner, Tholstrup F: Fritsch, van Rooyen, Chandler FOLL: Gawn, Oliver, Viney IC: Langford, Sparrow, Petty, Melksham SUB: McAdam EMERG: Sharp, Jefferson, Lindsay Casey B: Hore, Adams, Smith HB: Howes, Fullerton, Moniz-Wakefield C: Woewodin, Laurie, Sharp HF: Spargo, Johnson, Sestan F: Kentfield, Jefferson, Billings FOLL: Campbell, Brown, Lindsay IC: Verrall, Mentha, Hardie, Culley Lever has been injured so far but he is still a certainty to keep his spot in the back pocket. May has been training well another one who is locked into full back I haven't heard a lot from McVee but his consistancy keeps him in the back pocket Need a old head in the half back line and Salem is the man, he hasn't had a full pre season yet but he is close to getting back to his best. If he drops off his form again he will have Bowey, Howes, Moniz-Wakefield and Woewodin breathing down his neck. McDonald keeps his spot at CHB due to Petty being the swingman. Windsor has a new position at half back. Bowey has been a big shining light this pre season hasn't put a foot wrong. He said he will play more on the wing this year and that where I have him starting. Rivers is having a full pre season and due to his midfield work this year he stays in the middle to help out Oliver, Viney and Trac. Langdon is having his usual pre season locked in on a wing. Trac will be expected to play more up forward this year due to the emergence of Rivers. He was missed in the second half of the year. Turner is expected to go to the next level at CHF if he doesn't he will have Petty, van Rooyen, Jefferson, and Johnson breathing down his neck. Tholstrup will play high half forward doing a bit of Neal-Bullen's role. He has Sharp breathing down his neck. Fritsch will play the 3rd tall midsize forward role. van Rooyen is set to explode at full forward if he doesnt he has Jefferson and Johnson breathing down his neck. Chandler with Pickett out will be expected to play closer to goal and also doing a bit of Nibblers role. Gawn is our most important player without him we will struggle hopefully Campbell can give Gawn a chop out we weren't able to do that this year. Oliver is hopefully over his off season dramas. He's had a full pre season so far which is more than he had last year. Viney is Viney back in terrific nick one of the best trainers going around. Langford is the only player I back to debut round 1 he's built like a man which should allow him to mix it with the best. Sparrow had a poor year this year by his standards if he continues that way he will have Sharp, Lindsay, Laurie, Woewodin and Brown will be breathing down his neck. Petty didn't have a great year and is now being used as a swing man he could take over McDonald's role if he doesn't improve his forward involment Johnson will be breathing down his neck as could Campbell. I see him as being the 2nd ruck ATM. Melksham has moved from sub to best 22. He's crafty if he struggles early McAdam, Chandler, Tholstrup, Spargo and Pickett when he comes back will be gunning for his spot. McAdam is controversial because he done nothing to cement a place in the side he still unfit but should be right after Christmas. We rate him and we traded him for a second round pick so we must see what he can do early. With Pickett out it helps his chances. Sharp unlucky to not be in the side but as I said I want to see what McAdam can do. Lindsay won't be fit until after Christmas that may put him behind others we don't need to blood youth immediately like we have had to do in the past. Jefferson has been on the list for 2 years now it's time to start performing I don't see him in the round 1 side but if we can get 5 to 10 games out of him that will be a masive boost for the future. Edited December 10, 2024 by WERRIDEE 1 Quote
WERRIDEE 5,638 Posted December 13, 2024 Posted December 13, 2024 With Bonner playing for Casey I have changed the Casey side. Melbourne B: Lever, May, McVee HB: Salem, McDonald, Windsor C: Bowey, Rivers, Langdon HF: Petracca, Turner, Tholstrup F: Fritsch, van Rooyen, Chandler FOLL: Gawn, Oliver, Viney IC: Langford, Sparrow, Melksham, Petty SUB: McAdam EMERG: Howes, Sharp, Jefferson Casey B: Hore, Adams, Bonner HB: Howes, Fullerton, Moniz-Wakefield C: Sharp, Laurie, Brown HF: Spargo, Johnson, Sestan F: Kentfield, Jefferson, Billings FOLL: Campbell, Woewodin, Lindsay IC: Verrall, Merntha, Hardie, Culley, Casey youngster EMERG: Smith, Sruk, Doultree SUS: Pickett 1 1 Quote
picket fence 18,188 Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 On 10/12/2024 at 23:17, WERRIDEE said: I felt I needed to put McAdam in he has to show his worth early after a wasted season. B: Lever, May, McVee HB: Salem, McDonald, Windsor C: Bowey, Rivers, Langdon HF: Petracca, Turner, Tholstrup F: Fritsch, van Rooyen, Chandler FOLL: Gawn, Oliver, Viney IC: Langford, Sparrow, Petty, Melksham SUB: McAdam EMERG: Sharp, Jefferson, Lindsay Casey B: Hore, Adams, Smith HB: Howes, Fullerton, Moniz-Wakefield C: Woewodin, Laurie, Sharp HF: Spargo, Johnson, Sestan F: Kentfield, Jefferson, Billings FOLL: Campbell, Brown, Lindsay IC: Verrall, Mentha, Hardie, Culley Lever has been injured so far but he is still a certainty to keep his spot in the back pocket. May has been training well another one who is locked into full back I haven't heard a lot from McVee but his consistancy keeps him in the back pocket Need a old head in the half back line and Salem is the man, he hasn't had a full pre season yet but he is close to getting back to his best. If he drops off his form again he will have Bowey, Howes, Moniz-Wakefield and Woewodin breathing down his neck. McDonald keeps his spot at CHB due to Petty being the swingman. Windsor has a new position at half back. Bowey has been a big shining light this pre season hasn't put a foot wrong. He said he will play more on the wing this year and that where I have him starting. Rivers is having a full pre season and due to his midfield work this year he stays in the middle to help out Oliver, Viney and Trac. Langdon is having his usual pre season locked in on a wing. Trac will be expected to play more up forward this year due to the emergence of Rivers. He was missed in the second half of the year. Turner is expected to go to the next level at CHF if he doesn't he will have Petty, van Rooyen, Jefferson, and Johnson breathing down his neck. Tholstrup will play high half forward doing a bit of Neal-Bullen's role. He has Sharp breathing down his neck. Fritsch will play the 3rd tall midsize forward role. van Rooyen is set to explode at full forward if he doesnt he has Jefferson and Johnson breathing down his neck. Chandler with Pickett out will be expected to play closer to goal and also doing a bit of Nibblers role. Gawn is our most important player without him we will struggle hopefully Campbell can give Gawn a chop out we weren't able to do that this year. Oliver is hopefully over his off season dramas. He's had a full pre season so far which is more than he had last year. Viney is Viney back in terrific nick one of the best trainers going around. Langford is the only player I back to debut round 1 he's built like a man which should allow him to mix it with the best. Sparrow had a poor year this year by his standards if he continues that way he will have Sharp, Lindsay, Laurie, Woewodin and Brown will be breathing down his neck. Petty didn't have a great year and is now being used as a swing man he could take over McDonald's role if he doesn't improve his forward involment Johnson will be breathing down his neck as could Campbell. I see him as being the 2nd ruck ATM. Melksham has moved from sub to best 22. He's crafty if he struggles early McAdam, Chandler, Tholstrup, Spargo and Pickett when he comes back will be gunning for his spot. McAdam is controversial because he done nothing to cement a place in the side he still unfit but should be right after Christmas. We rate him and we traded him for a second round pick so we must see what he can do early. With Pickett out it helps his chances. Sharp unlucky to not be in the side but as I said I want to see what McAdam can do. Lindsay won't be fit until after Christmas that may put him behind others we don't need to blood youth immediately like we have had to do in the past. Jefferson has been on the list for 2 years now it's time to start performing I don't see him in the round 1 side but if we can get 5 to 10 games out of him that will be a masive boost for the future. Jeffo and Sharp to play round 1 I. I.M.O Mc Adams will and should start at Casey. 3 Quote
Simon Port 205 Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 Mcvee May Lever Rivers Petty Windsor Langdon Oliver Sharp Tholstrup Van Rooyen Chandler Pickett Jefferson Fritsch Gawn Viney Petracca Salem Sparrow Turner Bowey SUB: Brown EM: Tmac Howes Moniz Spargo 2 Quote
DistrACTION Jackson 10,748 Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 4 minutes ago, Simon Port said: Mcvee May Lever Rivers Petty Windsor Langdon Oliver Sharp Tholstrup Van Rooyen Chandler Pickett Jefferson Fritsch Gawn Viney Petracca Salem Sparrow Turner Bowey SUB: Brown EM: Tmac Howes Moniz Spargo No Langford? 1 Quote
adonski 13,279 Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 FB: McVee May Petty HB: Bowey Lever Salem C: Langdon Viney Windsor HF: Tholstrup Jefferson Petracca FF: Pickett JVR Fritsch R: Gawn Oliver Rivers INT: Turner Sharp Chandler Langford S: Melksham • Sharp gets first crack at the vacant ANB spot, keen to see Kynan Brown get an opportunity though. Hoping we have more competition for the non Kozzie small forward spots this year. • Windsor on a wing then rotates back when needed. • Think Tholstrup/Langford jump ahead of Sparrow in the mid-fwd pecking order. • Will be interesting to see where Lindsay plays when fit, and the flow on effect on Windsor's position. • I'm a Jefferson believer and in year 3 it's time to give him a crack. • T Mac to consider himself unlucky and comes back into consideration if neither Jeffo nor Aidan Johnson lock down a spot in the side (does Petty go fwd again if this happens?) 3 Quote
Roost it far 10,158 Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 (edited) On 10/12/2024 at 16:59, DeeSpencer said: FB: McDonald May McVee HB: Windsor Petty Bowey C; Landgon Tracc Langford HF: Tholstrup JVR Laurie FF: Fritsch Disco Chandler Foll: Gawn Rivers Viney Int: Salem, Oliver, Sharp, Johnson S: Sparrow B: Lever May McVee HB: Windsor Petty Salem C: Langdon Viney Bowey HF: Petracca JVR Langford F: Fritsch Turner Johnson R: Gawn Oliver Rivers INT: Sparrow Tholstrup Chandler Laurie/Pickett SUB: Campbell/McAdam/Melksham/AMW/George Once Pickett is back Laurie will likely drop out. Edited December 14, 2024 by Roost it far 3 Quote
picket fence 18,188 Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 20 minutes ago, Roost it far said: B: Lever May McVee HB: Windsor Petty Salem C: Langdon Viney Bowey HF: Petracca JVR Langford F: Fritsch Turner Johnson R: Gawn Oliver Rivers INT: Sparrow Tholstrup Chandler Laurie/Pickett SUB: Campbell Once Pickett is back Laurie will likely drop out. You want to play a pick 80 first up?? Hnmm 1 Quote
Roost it far 10,158 Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 21 minutes ago, picket fence said: You want to play a pick 80 first up?? Hnmm Yep, I want a split pack foward 1 Quote
picket fence 18,188 Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 12 hours ago, Roost it far said: Yep, I want a split pack foward I want someone to take strong marks and kick goals! 1 1 Quote
58er 6,872 Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 13 hours ago, picket fence said: You want to play a pick 80 first up?? Hnmm They are all equal after the draft. Langford and George are still MFC players and eligible for selection if fit. Don’t mind you asking the question though. 1 1 Quote
58er 6,872 Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 Just now, 58er said: They are all equal after the draft. Langford and George are still MFC players and eligible for selection if fit. Don’t mind you asking the question though. Sorry Johnson is the no 80 referred to. My apologies. Have no objection of Aidan is in the 23. He will have earnt his spot. 2 Quote
Cranky Franky 2,270 Posted December 15, 2024 Posted December 15, 2024 On 14/12/2024 at 13:03, picket fence said: Jeffo and Sharp to play round 1 I. I.M.O Mc Adams will and should start at Casey. McAdams can start at Casey along with Browns, Lauries, Woewodins, Georges and Adamss 😁 3 Quote
58er 6,872 Posted December 15, 2024 Posted December 15, 2024 3 hours ago, Cranky Franky said: McAdams can start at Casey along with Browns, Lauries, Woewodins, Georges and Adamss 😁 Can’t help thinking we may be underestimating Pup Brown. Wonder what the track watchers are seeing in his development plus his maturing as a realistic winger, midfielder or say a HFF getting a ton on the ball even maybe, I guess why I am excited about Kynan is his physical appearance has strengthened plus his pace evasiveness and very importantly his determination to play footy at the elite level like his dad. I hope the Club give him the opportunity to succeed in our system. Any comments from Demon track watchers or other D/Lers on Kynans potential for 2025 or am I jumping the gun with liking his potential? Thanks all. 2 1 Quote
Roost it far 10,158 Posted December 15, 2024 Posted December 15, 2024 (edited) 11 hours ago, picket fence said: I want someone to take strong marks and kick goals! Thats for JVR, Turner, Fritsch, Petracca and co Edited December 15, 2024 by Roost it far 1 Quote
MrReims 324 Posted December 15, 2024 Posted December 15, 2024 On 13/12/2024 at 17:22, WERRIDEE said: With Bonner playing for Casey I have changed the Casey side. Melbourne B: Lever, May, McVee HB: Salem, McDonald, Windsor C: Bowey, Rivers, Langdon HF: Petracca, Turner, Tholstrup F: Fritsch, van Rooyen, Chandler FOLL: Gawn, Oliver, Viney IC: Langford, Sparrow, Melksham, Petty SUB: McAdam EMERG: Howes, Sharp, Jefferson Casey B: Hore, Adams, Bonner HB: Howes, Fullerton, Moniz-Wakefield C: Sharp, Laurie, Brown HF: Spargo, Johnson, Sestan F: Kentfield, Jefferson, Billings FOLL: Campbell, Woewodin, Lindsay IC: Verrall, Merntha, Hardie, Culley, Casey youngster EMERG: Smith, Sruk, Doultree SUS: Pickett Remember reading a decent article on Baldi being back in the Casey team and out to prove himself, always thought he had something about him so don’t be surprised if he makes solid progress this year as well 2 Quote
Edward Langdon 96 Posted December 16, 2024 Posted December 16, 2024 The loss of Kozzie in the first 3 weeks will absolutely cost us a win and potentially a subsequent finals birth if we’re around the fringes. He’s our MVP in my opinion. He’s the bloke that can light a spark if we’re down by 15 points in the third quarter. Our forward line looks completely impotent on paper without him. 2 Quote
monoccular 17,760 Posted December 17, 2024 Posted December 17, 2024 (edited) On 15/12/2024 at 17:26, 58er said: Can’t help thinking we may be underestimating Pup Brown. Wonder what the track watchers are seeing in his development plus his maturing as a realistic winger, midfielder or say a HFF getting a ton on the ball even maybe, I guess why I am excited about Kynan is his physical appearance has strengthened plus his pace evasiveness and very importantly his determination to play footy at the elite level like his dad. I hope the Club give him the opportunity to succeed in our system. Any comments from Demon track watchers or other D/Lers on Kynans potential for 2025 or am I jumping the gun with liking his potential? Thanks all. 58er - of course it would be fantastic if Kynan Brown got a run and established himself, but there is and will / should be a merit based pecking order. Fierce competition for places can only be good for the team, though disappointing for those who miss out especially on September 27. Edited December 17, 2024 by monoccular 1 Quote
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