Melbourne strongly targeting Brisbane’s first round pick, currently Pick 15 (1112 points). 
 

Sending pick 25 from Adelaide (756 points), Pick 38 received from Sydney (465), and Pick 50 will give the Lions 1,494 points to assist with the acquisition of L. Ashcroft. 

Edited September 20, 20241 yr by BLWNBA

Now this is interesting. Has this been reported BLWNBA?

36 minutes ago, BLWNBA said:

Melbourne strongly targeting Brisbane’s first round pick, currently Pick 15 (1112 points). 
 

Sending pick 25 from Adelaide (756 points), Pick 38 received from Sydney (465), and Pick 50 will give the Lions 1,149 points to assist with the acquisition of L. Ashcroft. 

25 (756) + 38 (465) + 50 (273) = 1494 - not sure where your 1149 points is coming from?

Edited September 20, 20241 yr by old55

3 minutes ago, old55 said:

25 (756) + 38 (465) + 50 (273) = 1494 - not sure where your 1149 points is coming from?

Maybe he can't count.

So we're going for Geelong this weekend then?

7 minutes ago, old55 said:

25 (756) + 38 (465) + 50 (273) = 1494 - not sure where your 1149 points is coming from?

Your maths makes the deal a bit more likely in terms of what the Lions will agree too but I think they will want a future pick included in any deal. 

9 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

Maybe he can't count.

Sorry mate, just one of my many faults.

1 minute ago, BLWNBA said:

Sorry mate, just one of my many faults.

That's okay, most people have many faults.

So we're effectively trading half of Grundy's proceeds (not sure what we did with pick 46 last year), Neale-Bullen and a speculative late pick for a late first rounder.

 

4 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

So we're effectively trading half of Grundy's proceeds (not sure what we did with pick 46 last year), Neale-Bullen and a speculative late pick for a late first rounder.

 

I'm ok with that BBP

Would be a very crafty piece of work 

From all reports this draft is very deep into the teens with quality 

1494 points is just shy to the equivalent of pick 9. 

According to phantom drafts, Ashcroft will go pick 1 or 2. Let's assume it's pick 2 as most clubs who have the first pick won't bid on a player.

Pick 2 is 2517 points. With a 20% discount for father sons that will equal 2014 points.

Brisbane don't have a current second round pick as they traded it last year. Their next picks as it currently stands is 53 (233 points) and 69 (49 points).

1776 points in total after the hypothetical trade.

Technically they can go into deficit which will effect their 1st pick of 2025. I doubt the suggested trade will be enough points to satisfy Brisbane, but it's not far off.

10 minutes ago, BAMF said:

1494 points is just shy to the equivalent of pick 9. 

According to phantom drafts, Ashcroft will go pick 1 or 2. Let's assume it's pick 2 as most clubs who have the first pick won't bid on a player.

Pick 2 is 2517 points. With a 20% discount for father sons that will equal 2014 points.

Brisbane don't have a current second round pick as they traded it last year. Their next picks as it currently stands is 53 (233 points) and 69 (49 points).

1776 points in total after the hypothetical trade.

Technically they can go into deficit which will effect their 1st pick of 2025. I doubt the suggested trade will be enough points to satisfy Brisbane, but it's not far off.

They'll have to find a trading partner willing to put up more than we are.

Could be a few clubs willing to do that but impossible to predict prior to the trade/pick swap period.

Richmond could be the trouble maker and trump us like the doggies did last year.

If Richmond lose Graham they could end up with pick 21 and 22. They also have pick 29 as well.

21 and 22 = 1723

Or

21 and 29= 1531

Both already higher than our alleged offer without later junk picks thrown in.

 

20 minutes ago, BAMF said:

1494 points is just shy to the equivalent of pick 9. 

According to phantom drafts, Ashcroft will go pick 1 or 2. Let's assume it's pick 2 as most clubs who have the first pick won't bid on a player.

Pick 2 is 2517 points. With a 20% discount for father sons that will equal 2014 points.

Brisbane don't have a current second round pick as they traded it last year. Their next picks as it currently stands is 53 (233 points) and 69 (49 points).

1776 points in total after the hypothetical trade.

Technically they can go into deficit which will effect their 1st pick of 2025. I doubt the suggested trade will be enough points to satisfy Brisbane, but it's not far off.

They would also split 25 for a lot more than 756 points and given the depth of this draft they may be able to split 38. 

31 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

So we're effectively trading half of Grundy's proceeds (not sure what we did with pick 46 last year), Neale-Bullen and a speculative late pick for a late first rounder.

 

Pick 46 came into 42 after father son / academy point matches. 

We traded pick 42 on draft night to the Saints for their 2024 third round pick which is currently pick 45 (347 points).

Pick 45 wasn't mentioned in the hypothetical trade but would be the difference in points needed in my previous post.

This would mean we would have pick 5, 15, 61.

Edited September 20, 20241 yr by BAMF

45 minutes ago, roy11 said:

So we're going for Geelong this weekend then?

Say we end up doing the trade, that would leave us with 5, 15, 45 and 61.

45 for Daniel? Or perhaps future 3rd?

61 for Derksen?

56 minutes ago, old55 said:

25 (756) + 38 (465) + 50 (273) = 1494 - not sure where your 1149 points is coming from?

That was just my erroneous transcribing, edited.  

2 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Say we end up doing the trade, that would leave us with 5, 15, 45 and 61.

45 for Daniel? Or perhaps future 3rd?

61 for Derksen?

Seems like Daniel wants to stay put...which is...odd

52 minutes ago, roy11 said:

So we're going for Geelong this weekend then?

 

3 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Say we end up doing the trade, that would leave us with 5, 15, 45 and 61.

45 for Daniel? Or perhaps future 3rd?

61 for Derksen?

Will we be finished or:

Can we trade our future 1st for Geelongs 2024 1st, so I can go back to barracking for Brisbane on Saturday night?

Edited September 20, 20241 yr by John Demonic

2 minutes ago, BLWNBA said:

That was just my erroneous transcribing, edited.  

This is inside goss you're getting? Or its reported?

1 hour ago, BLWNBA said:

Sorry mate, just one of my many faults.

It’s ok you lost me at

“Melbourne strongly targeting Brisbane’s first round pick, currently Pick 15 (1112 points). “

27 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Say we end up doing the trade, that would leave us with 5, 15, 45 and 61.

45 for Daniel? Or perhaps future 3rd?

61 for Derksen?

45 for Daniel is terrible business.  He’s declining.  Short and slow !!! On far too many $$$ as well !!! 

1 hour ago, Nascent said:

They'll have to find a trading partner willing to put up more than we are.

Could be a few clubs willing to do that but impossible to predict prior to the trade/pick swap period.

Richmond could be the trouble maker and trump us like the doggies did last year.

If Richmond lose Graham they could end up with pick 21 and 22. They also have pick 29 as well.

21 and 22 = 1723

Or

21 and 29= 1531

Both already higher than our alleged offer without later junk picks thrown in.

 

I agree that Toiges could be trouble but I'm not sure they're going to part with 21 and 22 for 15 unless they have someone in mind. They need to fill a lot of holes on that list with the number of players jumping ship.

 

1 hour ago, adonski said:

Seems like Daniel wants to stay put...which is...odd

Wasn't a big fan of the move so I'm happy with that.