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  On 17/09/2024 at 05:56, Oxdee said:

You do realise gambling isn’t illegal? 

The world  is full of vices

You do realise I posted that because I thought people would be interested in an AFL related article on a website that few people are probably aware of.

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      On 17/09/2024 at 06:30, sue said:

    You do realise I posted that because I thought people would be interested in an AFL related article on a website that few people are probably aware of.

    this is one of those instances where, for whatever reason, crikey won't allow me to access anything beyond the third para

    it's not a bad website, i find, but i'd rather spend a micro-transaction with them than an annual subscription, which is not something that they offer

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      On 17/09/2024 at 06:30, sue said:

    You do realise I posted that because I thought people would be interested in an AFL related article on a website that few people are probably aware of.

    The headline is written by someone who doesn't bet.

    The crux of the article states that the AFL receives truckloads of money from betting agencies, and names people  associated with the game, who have sponsorship deals.

    So what?

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      On 17/09/2024 at 06:36, whatwhat say what said:

    this is one of those instances where, for whatever reason, crikey won't allow me to access anything beyond the third para

    it's not a bad website, i find, but i'd rather spend a micro-transaction with them than an annual subscription, which is not something that they offer

    You’d be pretty disappointed if you wasted even a micro-payment on that article 

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      On 17/09/2024 at 05:41, sue said:

    ‘People will swim through shit for a dollar’: A list of AFL stars and journos on the gambling payroll

    Thanks for this post, Sue.

    Interesting to see which media personalities "sell their soul"  to get the big bucks from the betting companies.

    Interesting also to see how unsuccessful Jenkins's  tips have been. He's always pontificating about good bets on SEN. I've wondered how often he's been correct.

    Sports betting really is a scourge on our community. It's great that MFC has abandoned Pokies.  The AFL hasn't followed suit.     

    It needs to.

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      On 17/09/2024 at 05:56, Oxdee said:

    You do realise gambling isn’t illegal? The world  is full of vices

    Neither is whiskey but if you start pushing it on 8 year olds as being a part of following the footy, I'll take an issue with you.

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      On 17/09/2024 at 07:54, Jumping Jack Clennett said:

    Thanks for this post, Sue.

    Interesting to see which media personalities "sell their soul"  to get the big bucks from the betting companies.

    Interesting also to see how unsuccessful Jenkins's  tips have been. He's always pontificating about good bets on SEN. I've wondered how often he's been correct.

    Sports betting really is a scourge on our community. It's great that MFC has abandoned Pokies.  The AFL hasn't followed suit.      It needs to.

     

     

    Thanks - totally agree 

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      On 17/09/2024 at 08:22, Little Goffy said:

    Neither is whiskey but if you start pushing it on 8 year olds as being a part of following the footy, I'll take an issue with you.

    I'm a punter - horses and footy.

    I really enjoy betting on footy. But find the ads - and even more so the integration (eg the in game ads and 'tips' from peanuts like brown) - obscene.

    In 20 years time we will look back on such advertising in the way we look back im horror at the total integration of say Benson and Hedges sponsoring cricket (and all the rest, eg motor sport).

    What were they thinking?

    And the parallels are clear:

    Like we did with tobacco in the 1970s, we know the damage gambling does to our society. The research is crystal clear.

    The motivation of the advertisers and companies is also the same- create life long customer loyalty, from teenager to grave.

    And the AFL, like sporting organisations in the 1970s will argue the money is critical - but when push comes to shove will find other revenue streams.

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      On 17/09/2024 at 06:36, whatwhat say what said:

    this is one of those instances where, for whatever reason, crikey won't allow me to access anything beyond the third para

    it's not a bad website, i find, but i'd rather spend a micro-transaction with them than an annual subscription, which is not something that they offer

    Tricky isn’t it

    Their quality is far above Murdoch and the now-risible Domainfax, and that of the Guardian but …. You’re not the product so ya gots to pay. Like Macrobusiness. I throw Michael West some $ now and then. What Rex Patrick is exposing re the gas cartel is a national service and they deserve the $

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      On 17/09/2024 at 07:54, Jumping Jack Clennett said:

    Thanks for this post, Sue.

    Interesting to see which media personalities "sell their soul"  to get the big bucks from the betting companies.

    Interesting also to see how unsuccessful Jenkins's  tips have been. He's always pontificating about good bets on SEN. I've wondered how often he's been correct.

    Sports betting really is a scourge on our community. It's great that MFC has abandoned Pokies.  The AFL hasn't followed suit.     

    It needs to.

    This

     

    Thanks Sue and I agree JJC. Labor have lost their spine here (and on domestic gas reservation/super profits tax whilst I’m here soapboxing)

     

    They’ve been a horrible disappointment 

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      On 17/09/2024 at 06:40, mo64 said:

    The crux of the article states that the AFL receives truckloads of money from betting agencies, and names people  associated with the game, who have sponsorship deals.

    So what?

    Sam McClure's hypocrisy aside, there is a clear conflict of interest concern as to James Brayshaw, Garry Lyon, Luke Hodge and any other broadcast commentators receiving betting sponsorships if live betting is permitted. 

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      On 17/09/2024 at 05:56, Oxdee said:

    You do realise gambling isn’t illegal?

    The world  is full of vices

    Yes but we don’t normally advertise these vices to children but hey anything for a dollar…….

    You might want to read some of the practices these scum roll out to lure more money out of helpless addicted souls. Gambling is one thing, actively encouraging those on a losing streak to gamble more is leading to family homes being lost,  family violence and suicide. Time to lose the advertising and time to regulate these companies.

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      On 17/09/2024 at 10:51, Roost it far said:

    Yes but we don’t normally advertise these vices to children but hey anything for a dollar…….

    You might want to read some of the practices these scum roll out to lure more money out of helpless addicted souls. Gambling is one thing, actively encouraging those on a losing streak to gamble more is leading to family homes being lost,  family violence and suicide. Time to lose the advertising and time to regulate these companies.

    Most people that gamble know exactly the risks and rewards and enter into it like adults. Like everything in life some people take it to the extreme. You can’t completely regulate for those at the edges. 

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      On 17/09/2024 at 12:03, Oxdee said:

    Most people that gamble know exactly the risks and rewards and enter into it like adults. Like everything in life some people take it to the extreme. You can’t completely regulate for those at the edges. 

    I’m not trying to patronise here but read some of the accounts of people who lost everything. The way companies contact big losers and load their accounts full of betting money so they can lose it and more because that’s what gambling is. It’s a way of losing your money over time. It needs regulation just like all corporations do. Sheesh, look at the world and tell me that corporations don’t need their wings clipped. At its essence it comes down to curtailing greed, we’d all be better off if that happens, you, me, everyone!

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    the other sell-your-soul type of advertising i really hate, is that hodgey's tv ad for that dodgy easy money lending mob

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    Gambling sponsorships like tobacco in the last century will be gone within ten years.

    I wonder who will be the mega sponsors of the future

    Watching AFL and NRL I often have no idea who the main jumper sponsors are so I'm obviously not the target market

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