Does the club need a full and external review?

[DeesignerAU 383]

Just looking to get supporters views on whether the club should do a full and external review? 

[Colm 2,151]

100%, thought we should have one before the Roffey  interview debacle but now it’s a no brainer for me. 

[biggestred 5,076]

didnt really think we needed an external one. an internal one perhaps. but after that interview we need a full external one

[dazzledavey36 54,861]

Does a fish need water to survive? Yes it does.

 

[Deeminion 406]

5 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Does a fish need water to survive? Yes it does.

The MFC:

 

[DeesignerAU 383]

One person voted no - Thanks Kate

[DeesignerAU 383]

We need Peter Jackson back to run the review

[DeesignerAU 383]

https://www.3aw.com.au/david-schwarz-weighs-in-on-concerning-situation-at-melbourne/

[demon3165 2,718]

2 hours ago, DeesignerAU said:

Just looking to get supporters views on whether the club should do a full and external review? 

More like an internet forum site for supporters don't you.

[Demon Disciple 12,119]

Kate has stated that she doesn't think we need an external review on afl.com.au

Wow, I wonder why she thinks that, what is she trying to hide? Now i definitely think we need one 

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1207361/melbourne-demons-president-kate-roffey-denies-stand-off-with-injured-superstar-christian-petracca

[Colm 2,151]

1 minute ago, Demon Disciple said:

Kate has stated that she doesn't think we need an external review on afl.com.au

Wow, I wonder why she thinks that, what is she trying to hide? Now i definitely think we need one 

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1207361/melbourne-demons-president-kate-roffey-denies-stand-off-with-injured-superstar-christian-petracca

No need for a review. We brought one of the all blacks in for a chat🤯

[Demon Disciple 12,119]

I interpreted that interview as her being completely out of her depth as president.

She has ridden the coattails of her predecessor and the success he, PJ & Roos built up for 3 years now, and its been on a negative trajectory since the 2021 GF.

She's gotta go, so too Pert, Richardson and the coach. Not bad for 3 years after a flag.  

[BLWNBA 1,003]

This should've occurred at the end of last season. The salvageable gains that would come from one are significantly diminished due to the passage of time and damage incurred, but it still has to occur.  

[DeesignerAU 383]

33 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

I interpreted that interview as her being completely out of her depth as president.

She has ridden the coattails of her predecessor and the success he, PJ & Roos built up for 3 years now, and its been on a negative trajectory since the 2021 GF.

She's gotta go, so too Pert, Richardson and the coach. Not bad for 3 years after a flag.  

At the moment 5 people have voted no - Kate, Pert, Richo, Goody and who do you think the 5th one is? 😜

[DeeSpencer 25,678]

What is an all of club external review? Who could even be qualified to do that? What time frame could that possibly occur in? You'd be looking at 2 months at minimum.

I don't want Kate's interview today to see her sacked by her own board, anyone elevated by the current board will either be very compromised or offer nothing different.

The interview today has to be a catalyst for her to stop deferring and get cracked in on a personal level.

A review of the footy department by the CEO for the Board should already be underway and I doubt they're going to open that up to outsiders at this stage.

A review in to the Board and CEO/executive should occur over summer when everything has settled down.

But the focus right now can't be on changing the Board. We've got vital decisions that need to be made urgently for trades, list management, playing group culture 

[DeesignerAU 383]

18 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

What is an all of club external review? Who could even be qualified to do that? What time frame could that possibly occur in? You'd be looking at 2 months at minimum.

I don't want Kate's interview today to see her sacked by her own board, anyone elevated by the current board will either be very compromised or offer nothing different.

The interview today has to be a catalyst for her to stop deferring and get cracked in on a personal level.

A review of the footy department by the CEO for the Board should already be underway and I doubt they're going to open that up to outsiders at this stage.

A review in to the Board and CEO/executive should occur over summer when everything has settled down.

But the focus right now can't be on changing the Board. We've got vital decisions that need to be made urgently for trades, list management, playing group culture 

Peter Jackson has just (within the past 4 months or so) finished a full external review of the (western Bulldogs) whole club from senior coach to bootstudder, from President to mail boy/girl and everything and everyone in between. No access denied and everything reported on. All the skeletons out of the closets. You are right it will take months. The reviews need to be independent rather than Pert and Roffey saying everything is good and best culture every. 

Edited August 29 by DeesignerAU

[Watson11 2,240]

5 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

What is an all of club external review? Who could even be qualified to do that? What time frame could that possibly occur in? You'd be looking at 2 months at minimum.

I dont know.  Ask Pert. He was at the Pies when they did theirs in 2017.  Since that review, in the 7 seasons since, they have made 4 prelims (2 they lost were 1 point and 2 points), 2 GFs (one they lost was 2 points), and 1 flag. They missed finals 4 season prior.

I’d take that in our next 7 seasons.

[Supreme_Demon 3,834]

An external review is required.

The Melbourne Football Club must be transparent for the sake of it's integrity and for all of us many loyal Demons members and supporters.

 

[DeesignerAU 383]

21 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

What is an all of club external review? Who could even be qualified to do that? What time frame could that possibly occur in? You'd be looking at 2 months at minimum.

I don't want Kate's interview today to see her sacked by her own board, anyone elevated by the current board will either be very compromised or offer nothing different.

The interview today has to be a catalyst for her to stop deferring and get cracked in on a personal level.

A review of the footy department by the CEO for the Board should already be underway and I doubt they're going to open that up to outsiders at this stage.

A review in to the Board and CEO/executive should occur over summer when everything has settled down.

But the focus right now can't be on changing the Board. We've got vital decisions that need to be made urgently for trades, list management, playing group culture 

the review would also be good to ensure that the club activities are aligned with that strategic plan we that have been waiting on....
 

[Demon Disciple 12,119]

37 minutes ago, DeesignerAU said:

At the moment 5 people have voted no - Kate, Pert, Richo, Goody and who do you think the 5th one is? 😜

Well if it's Trac then im all at sea, but what a thriller it would be!

[beelzebub 23,348]

Get Jackson.... he'd know just what to ask,where to look and who to ask .

 

Make it happen 

[Dee*ceiving 1,674]

19 hours ago, Watson11 said:

I dont know.  Ask Pert. He was at the Pies when they did theirs in 2017.  Since that review, in the 7 seasons since, they have made 4 prelims (2 they lost were 1 point and 2 points), 2 GFs (one they lost was 2 points), and 1 flag. They missed finals 4 season prior.

I’d take that in our next 7 seasons.

 

19 hours ago, DeesignerAU said:

Peter Jackson has just (within the past 4 months or so) finished a full external review of the (western Bulldogs) whole club from senior coach to bootstudder, from President to mail boy/girl and everything and everyone in between. No access denied and everything reported on. All the skeletons out of the closets. You are right it will take months. The reviews need to be independent rather than Pert and Roffey saying everything is good and best culture every. 

Great posts. It will be raw and painful and based on our mob involve way to many leaks to the media but for mine it seems the main reason the leaders of the club don't want it is because of the nature of the skeletons that will be laid bare. 

I'll admit, I have been behind the club and it's leaders staunchly the whole way along. Probably too long, too optimistic and too trusting, but the wheel has turned too far now. No other way.

[Satyriconhome 10,857]

Do we need four or five topics/threads discussing the same thing on Demonland?

19 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Get Jackson.... he'd know just what to ask,where to look and who to ask .

 

Make it happen 

I thought posters on here knew where to look?

[BoBo 2,941]

There’s a defamation court case looming over all of this, which is seemingly inevitable. The media is going to go to town on it and could dwarf this situation incredibly. If we think there’s pressure on us now, just wait until all of our dirty laundry is aired in a court case for the media to sift through. 

All the questions, all the innuendo, all the ‘what did X know’ etc. etc. etc. etc.

Hopefully it’s not during the season I guess?

I don’t have all the answers to this, but reviews/resignations/sackings is going to happen at some stage. We can get in front of that situation now for the sake of the club and move on from this administration and get in a ‘fresh start’ or we can hope the current administration can not let it affect the club whilst still being in charge… How’s that going right now? 
 

Change is inevitable and things are without a shadow of a doubt going to get very very messy.

 

 

Edited August 30 by BoBo

[Magnus 45]

Clearly yes. Too much noise not to have one. The club needs a reset to refocus on bringing us a flag in the next few years. The club is going to need help from the supporter base to build our new base (no way the state government will/can help) and right now that would be hard.