Welcome to Demonland: Harvey Langford

[Young Angus 802]

I'll say it again...so excited about Langford I reckon we've got an absolute ripper with this kid, can't wait to see him on the field in 2025 reckon we're in for a treat and he will be right in there with the big boys!

[binman 43,709]

3 hours ago, Slartibartfast said:

Oliver.  2 Brownlow votes in his first game and arguably BOG to half time.

Was that the first game of the season SB?

[binman 43,709]

14 hours ago, adonski said:

You're watching the wrong highlights if that's the case

Indeed. In fact in the vison I've seen his contested marking is a real strength.

I'll find the vid and link here (the youtube channel is called Footy Stuff), but I watched his full season highlights a week or so ago. About 15 minutes long.

Great video - broken up into sections: movement, score involvements, clearances, something else - and marking

Terrific way to structure it.

Boy, oh boy, kid can play.

Beautiful kick. Uses the natural advantage left footers have - opponents instinctively covering the right side - to wheel and kick off one step after a mark.

But what really stood out was his marking technique - text book.

Times his jump super well, marks out in front if his eyes with bent arms, great one on one and a one grabber. And in that vid took some absolute pack mark screamers.

He looks a completely natural forward.

He actually reminded me a lot of Jeremy Cameron, even more than say a big bodied mid forward like Tracc.

Tracc is brutally effective as a forward, but to my eye has never been a particularly natural forward. Just very hard to beat one on one.

But Langford moves and leads like a true forward.

And moves a lot like Cameron, is probably almost as tall and of course is also a left footer.

Edited November 28 by binman

[adonski 12,410]

16 minutes ago, binman said:

Indeed. In fact in the vison I've seen his contested marking is a real strength.

I'll find the vid and link here (the youtube channel is called Footy Stuff), but I watched his full season highlights a week or so ago. About 15 minutes long.

Great video - broken up into sections: movement, score involvements, clearances, something else - and marking

Terrific way to structure it.

Boy, oh boy, kid can play.

Beautiful kick. Uses the natural advantage left footers have - opponents instinctively covering the right side - to wheel and kick off one step after a mark.

But what really stood out was his marking technique - text book.

Times his jump super well, marks out in front if his eyes with bent arms, great one on one and a one grabber. And in that vid took some absolute pack mark screamers.

He looks a completely natural forward.

He actually reminded me a lot of Jeremy Cameron, even more than say a big bodied mid forward like Tracc.

Tracc is brutally effective as a forward, but to my eye has never been a particularly natural forward. Just very hard to beat one on one.

But Langford moves and leads like a true forward.

And moves a lot like Cameron, is probably almost as tall and of course is also a left footer.

I agree with most of that Binno just testing out the thumbs down sorry!!!

[binman 43,709]

44 minutes ago, adonski said:

I agree with most of that Binno just testing out the thumbs down sorry!!!

All good - I thought it was a map of Texas.

[Matt Demon 1,482]

1 hour ago, binman said:

Indeed. In fact in the vison I've seen his contested marking is a real strength.

I'll find the vid and link here (the youtube channel is called Footy Stuff), but I watched his full season highlights a week or so ago. About 15 minutes long.

Great video - broken up into sections: movement, score involvements, clearances, something else - and marking

Terrific way to structure it.

Boy, oh boy, kid can play.

Beautiful kick. Uses the natural advantage left footers have - opponents instinctively covering the right side - to wheel and kick off one step after a mark.

But what really stood out was his marking technique - text book.

Times his jump super well, marks out in front if his eyes with bent arms, great one on one and a one grabber. And in that vid took some absolute pack mark screamers.

He looks a completely natural forward.

He actually reminded me a lot of Jeremy Cameron, even more than say a big bodied mid forward like Tracc.

Tracc is brutally effective as a forward, but to my eye has never been a particularly natural forward. Just very hard to beat one on one.

But Langford moves and leads like a true forward.

And moves a lot like Cameron, is probably almost as tall and of course is also a left footer.

Agree with your observations Binman. 

I watched these highlights last night, it's a terrific video. Although the knock on him is his pace he still seems to have a quick few steps out of stoppage and has a mean side step. 

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,933]

1 hour ago, binman said:

Was that the first game of the season SB?

Round 1 2016 win over GWS at the MCG by under a goal.

[binman 43,709]

2 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Round 1 2016 win over GWS at the MCG by under a goal.

Shows how talented he was/is as he was a ways off elite fitness at that point.

[Wizard of Koz 1,127]

28 minutes ago, binman said:

Shows how talented he was/is as he was a ways off elite fitness at that point.

Oliver shape shifted the club.

Rd 1:

After 2 minutes it was obvious he was our best centre bounce clearance player in the club

After 5 minutes: He was the teams best tackle breaker in the club

At 1/4 time he was the clubs best midfielder

At half time he was our best  first performed draftee in memory

At the end of the game he was the best on ground for us

After Rd 6 he was the clubs best player

After 50 games he was hea dand shoulders above any 50 game MFC player in memory

Then he won 4 x BF, multiple AA and a Premiership superstar to boot with a spine tingling 3rd quarter goal with a point to all of us in lockdown.

 

This guy is a freaking living legend. And some people talk about him as though is dispensable. Not in my books. Stoke whatever fire is needed to float his boat.

Edited November 28 by Wizard of Koz

[layzie 33,989]

I don't think Langford is going to be likened to anyone, he's a massive point of difference aerially and with his left foot.

Could be a metres gained player like Hayden Young or a physical presence like Trac, who knows. 

[Dee-licious 1,954]

I like the comparison to Cameron and it is not the first time I've heard that. Maybe Mick Ablett? Or Sheehan? Its that natural forward craft that is really tough for midfielders at junior levels to learn because they are always used on ball. 

[Webber 10,538]

56 minutes ago, binman said:

Shows how talented he was/is as he was a ways off elite fitness at that point.

I remember in his first praccy match (vs Bulldogs at a country venue I can’t remember), he almost took a speccy, ran to the bench soon after and threw up. Immediate thought was that this kid will go until his body, not his mind, just blows up. In a good way. 

[roy11 3,877]

9 minutes ago, Webber said:

I remember in his first praccy match (vs Bulldogs at a country venue I can’t remember), he almost took a speccy, ran to the bench soon after and threw up. Immediate thought was that this kid will go until his body, not his mind, just blows up. In a good way. 

'You go til you can't go no more'

[djr 1,577]

3 hours ago, Kent said:

why and under what circumstances do we lose CP? You mean he gets badly injured again or he retires hurt or what?

Settle down pal. Only talking about that we should be ok if Tracc chooses to leave.

[binman 43,709]

On 28/11/2024 at 16:27, Webber said:

I remember in his first praccy match (vs Bulldogs at a country venue I can’t remember), he almost took a speccy, ran to the bench soon after and threw up. Immediate thought was that this kid will go until his body, not his mind, just blows up. In a good way. 

And that is the exact approach he took last season.

Obviously he wasn't AFL elite fit. But unlike some of his teamates, not once did he stop giving his all or 100% effort.

Sure, knock the bloke for not being in shape (though of course there are mitigating factors), but i couldn't believe some of the criticism he copped last season on this forum.

Bloke left not a drop on the field. You can't ask for anything more.

My respect grew for clarry last season.

Edited November 29 by binman

[Young Blood 2,634]

2 hours ago, binman said:

And that is the exact approach he took last year.

Obviously he wasn't AFL elite fit. But unlike some of his teamates, not once did he stop giving his all or 100% effort.

Sure, knock the bloke for not being in shape (though of course there are mitigating factors), but i couldn't believe some of the criticism he copped last season on this forum.

Bloke left not a drop on the field. You can't ask for anything more.

My respect grew for clarry last season.

I went along to every game at the G last year and in all but one or two games I spotted Clayton throwing up on the field. He quite literally tried his guts out last season when his body wasn't ready for it. I think last year might go down in some sort of folklore in terms of a player managing to play 21 AFL games as a full time midfielder after having such a well documented, problematic off season with very little preseason training/conditioning. 

He's looking in prime condition already this off season. I think he'll have a monster 2025 and return to a top 10 mid of the comp.

[Hawny for Gawny 461]

15 hours ago, binman said:

Indeed. In fact in the vison I've seen his contested marking is a real strength.

I'll find the vid and link here (the youtube channel is called Footy Stuff), but I watched his full season highlights a week or so ago. About 15 minutes long.

Great video - broken up into sections: movement, score involvements, clearances, something else - and marking

 

 Here's the video, I think the part that got me the most excited is in the first couple of mins when he's on Richmonds VFL team, bounces off 2 blokes inside 50 and finds the teammate instead of blazing away. Physically he's big enough to play.

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From the Herald Sun’s online article on the AFL draft: The draftees who could line up in Round 1 2025, best SuperCoach rookie picks

[DeeZee 7,445]

Looks like a Bontempelli type to me.

Big bodied Mid/forward with footy smarts who covers the ground exceptionally well.

Great hands and goal kicking ability and powerful in  middle of the ground as well.

[binman 43,709]

8 hours ago, Hawny for Gawny said:

 Here's the video, I think the part that got me the most excited is in the first couple of mins when he's on Richmonds VFL team, bounces off 2 blokes inside 50 and finds the teammate instead of blazing away. Physically he's big enough to play.

'Oh, Langford - outstanding work from the young man!'

Edited November 29 by binman

[Tolstoys Nudge 1,734]

On 28/11/2024 at 07:29, binman said:

Agree. I was joking, though not particularly well

if I was a betting man I'd give very short odds that barrimg injury he'll make his AFL debut round one next season.

I can't think of a dees draftee more ready for AFL footy than Langford . Viney perhaps, 

And not just because he's physically ready (boy, he's a big fella) - just seems to have the right mindset and competitiveness.

He'll probably be a mid from the get go too.

Ah fair enough lol

 

Let’s hope — I think that’d be a huge tick if so. Otherwise his size finishing and marking make him the perfect fwd for us either when resting to maybe he’ll do stoppage then move fwd.. either way he’s def in R1, would love to see Windsor inside a bit as well in bursts!

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On 28/11/2024 at 11:58, binman said:

Indeed. In fact in the vison I've seen his contested marking is a real strength.

I'll find the vid and link here (the youtube channel is called Footy Stuff), but I watched his full season highlights a week or so ago. About 15 minutes long.

Great video - broken up into sections: movement, score involvements, clearances, something else - and marking

Terrific way to structure it.

Boy, oh boy, kid can play.

Beautiful kick. Uses the natural advantage left footers have - opponents instinctively covering the right side - to wheel and kick off one step after a mark.

But what really stood out was his marking technique - text book.

Times his jump super well, marks out in front if his eyes with bent arms, great one on one and a one grabber. And in that vid took some absolute pack mark screamers.

He looks a completely natural forward.

He actually reminded me a lot of Jeremy Cameron, even more than say a big bodied mid forward like Tracc.

Tracc is brutally effective as a forward, but to my eye has never been a particularly natural forward. Just very hard to beat one on one.

But Langford moves and leads like a true forward.

And moves a lot like Cameron, is probably almost as tall and of course is also a left footer.

Sure is — his marking may be his best asset although his finishing and attack at contest would be close! 

[binman 43,709]

1 hour ago, Tolstoys Nudge said:

Ah fair enough lol

 

Let’s hope — I think that’d be a huge tick if so. Otherwise his size finishing and marking make him the perfect fwd for us either when resting to maybe he’ll do stoppage then move fwd.. either way he’s def in R1, would love to see Windsor inside a bit as well in bursts!

I'm on the fence about using Windsor as a mid.

Small sample size, but he didn't scream natural mid go me.

But we have other options and players as quick as Windsor are gold in footy now so I'd rather he play on the wing where he can really use his wheels.

[adonski 12,410]

4 minutes ago, binman said:

I'm on the fence about using Windsor as a mid.

Small sample size, but he didn't scream natural mid go me.

But we have other options and players as quick as Windsor are gold in footy now so I'd rather he play on the wing where he can really use his wheels.

Zero is a small sample size for sure

[Fat Tony 5,262]

5 minutes ago, binman said:

I'm on the fence about using Windsor as a mid.

Small sample size, but he didn't scream natural mid go me.

But we have other options and players as quick as Windsor are gold in footy now so I'd rather he play on the wing where he can really use his wheels.

Windsor has excellent hands and decision making in tight. I think he will be an excellent midfielder once he gets the body strength.

I much prefer having left footed and right footed wingmen, because it allows us to move the ball more quickly around the boundary. Langdon, Sharp, Winsor and Lindsay give us a few options for the wing.