2 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

You’d be hard pressed to find a less important opinion on the draft 

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/author/kieran-francis

I reckon I can find plenty in this thread alone.

See Brock McLean, B grader, not a bust, but will be happy whoever is available at pick 5.

Langdon is my preferred choice at #5 (on top of other traits, I like the 'deliberacy' of his passing in some, but not all of his videos), which means the MFC should probably jump off right now. I am most definitely not a qualified scout. 

1 hour ago, Skuit said:

Langdon is my preferred choice at #5 (on top of other traits, I like the 'deliberacy' of his passing in some, but not all of his videos), which means the MFC should probably jump off right now. I am most definitely not a qualified scout. 

we've already got langdon, so you nailed this pick!

Watched his highlights on 'footy stuff', for someone of his size playing U18's jeez does he get caught a lot, really struggles to break tackles. Can see the upside in other areas though.

Speaking to a Tigers supporter mate at a bbq tonight (Mr Black for confidentiality). He reckons they’ll definitely pick Sam Lalor. Reckons he will be like Dustin Martin reincarnated.  But he saw Langford and Smith in the VFL games also, and thinks Langford would also be a worthwhile top pick and Dees would get a good one if he picked him.  I agreed.  
Langford has so many “footy” qualities - wins the footy in contests, endurance , skills, smarts, can take marks, kicks goals.  His only issue is defensive side which I’m sure an AFL program would quickly work on.  

31 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Speaking to a Tigers supporter mate at a bbq tonight (Mr Black for confidentiality). He reckons they’ll definitely pick Sam Lalor. Reckons he will be like Dustin Martin reincarnated.  But he saw Langford and Smith in the VFL games also, and thinks Langford would also be a worthwhile top pick and Dees would get a good one if he picked him.  I agreed.  
Langford has so many “footy” qualities - wins the footy in contests, endurance , skills, smarts, can take marks, kicks goals.  His only issue is defensive side which I’m sure an AFL program would quickly work on.  

I would guess we'd start Langford as a half forward with bursts in the middle and let him build his tank over 2-3 years sort of how we did with Trac early on?

I'm quite underwhelmed. I thought the top 5 were meant to be a lot more than Langford. He had bull like qualities but they will get a bit lost at AFL level and he hardly hit a target. No real clue and will be happy whoever we take but am secretly hoping he goes at 4.

11 hours ago, deespicable me said:

I'm quite underwhelmed. I thought the top 5 were meant to be a lot more than Langford. He had bull like qualities but they will get a bit lost at AFL level and he hardly hit a target. No real clue and will be happy whoever we take but am secretly hoping he goes at 4.

Not sure what vision you watched, but your assessment of him sounds a bit off. He's 190cm, high footy IQ, gets to the right spots, racks up clearances and ball, uses his strength and size to break through tackles, has clean hands both distributing from stoppage and contested marking. He's also a good penetrating kick, one of the better kicks in this draft, and hits the scoreboard big time for a midfielder. He's the most productive mid-forward in this draft. His only weakness is speed. If he had better speed, he'd be a standout pick 1 instead of a likely top 5 pick.

Langford and Smith are probably the safest bets to be good AFL players in this draft.

https://t.co/i4JOO2tqPi

a good read on Langford as well as Stingrays teammate Cooper Hynes 

Twomey's October rating has Langford at 3. He usually gets it right with a pick or 2.

From Twomey's rankings description of Langford (ranked 3). " Langford's appeal comes in his size, presence, versatility and impact – he will be playing significant AFL footy next year."

There's a bit of discussion on these boards about the importance or otherwise of 'one grab'.

Langford could have it as his nickname.

 

Here’s a reminder … Langford is seriously very very good. I have seen him live at Stingrays games and for Vic Country v Metro.   Seen him on multiple Coates leagues games off the app.   Don't worry about the potential phantom drafts others put out where he might be 15 or 20. He’s top 5 in my books alongside Lalor, O’Sullivan, Smith & Draper. All could be number 1.  If  he’s available, I’m taking Langford.  He’s footy winning ability, marking , endurance, strength, kicking and footy IQ are high quality. Sure he doesn’t run 20metres in 2.88 seconds but his game is build differently.  

 

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This guy will be a superstar. I'm never wrong with my track record pre draft 😉

Really hope we get him. 

Lots of Langfords best moments seem to be his link up work and his marking especially up fwd, rather than dominating the midfield

On 25/10/2024 at 15:22, manny100 said:

Twomey's October rating has Langford at 3. He usually gets it right with a pick or 2.

Only in his final phantom draft when he gets all of the mail. His lead-up rankings are more hit and miss 

https://www.afl.com.au/video/1251142
 

point of difference is versatility 

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Full season highlights:

 

He good. Rp want

Based on potential draft order, Langford is the most likely for pick “5”.  

If Richmond takes Lalor, Carlton takes O'Sullivan and Adelaide takes Draper, it seems unlikely North will take another midfielder, but would Richmond if they trade into Pick 2?

26 minutes ago, The Taciturn Demon said:

If Richmond takes Lalor, Carlton takes O'Sullivan and Adelaide takes Draper, it seems unlikely North will take another midfielder, but would Richmond if they trade into Pick 2?

They would but the word is that Richmond trading for pick 2 is now unlikely to happen 

Adelaide is interested in trading up though - I’m guessing to guarantee Draper on the chance North or Carlton are keen to take him 

Who is better though?

Harvey Langford or Jagga Smith?

Just in regard to pure football talent?

We should take best available at 5 and again at 9. We can make do, see who develops and trade for needs next year.