POSTGAME: Rd 23 vs Gold Coast

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,736]

1 hour ago, IRW said:

Kossie 

4 disposals

89 metres

Efficiency 75%...Viney 77%

Uncontested  3

Tackles 1

PRESSURE ACTS 34!!

Seriously? Running quickly after the ball carrier ,who knows you're there and has time to steady and dispose , is basically wasting the time of the stats man.

Week after week

There's a lot of upside I guess

He had a bad game, but the players all got around him early in the last quarter when he did some good things. 

[Stevienic23 1,183]

16 hours ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Stolen from a post on Twitter, but this a great pick up.

“Trac spent months in Queensland then conveniently avoided this away trip when so many of the injured players travelled, and our twos were up here too. Today was a very ‘whole club’ vibe. None of this is reflecting very well on him. This is a direction, and he’s not in on it.”

My very good mail has it that Trac wasn't happy with this initial press release after his injury. It was too footy centric where he would have prefered a bit more sympathy towards the seriousness of the injury and that footy is taking a back seat whilst he concentrates on his health and the timeline will look after itself. This on top of everything else this year has led to leaks from his management, particularly wanting to play for a club with a bigger following so he can play in front of bigger crowds and set himself up more after footy.

He's been alone with his thoughts for too long and not been around the club. He needs a cuddle and reassurance and we'll get him back on side. He will be held to his contract.

 

 

[Jaded No More 68,922]

5 minutes ago, Stevienic23 said:

 

He's been alone with his thoughts for too long and not been around the club. He needs a cuddle and reassurance and we'll get him back on side. He will be held to his contract.

 

 

 

That is his choice. Why is he isolating himself from the club? 
It feels like he’s trying to make the relationship with the club untenable so to force the club to trade him.

I hope we hold him to his contract unless we get a deal so good it can’t be refused. 

[demon3165 2,719]

13 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Anyone who thinks Viney is “as good as gone” is a moron.

Unfortunately funnier things have happened in football, many a player have said they are staying and then gone, not saying it is happening but business is business these days.

[dazzledavey36 54,947]

Watched the replay last night. Clearly Goodwin told the players that the shackles are off and it was time to just go and take the game on and have a bit of fun.

I thought whilst Rivers was poor by foot, he Bowey and Langdon were the ones that really got us going with their run and carry. They were top 3 for metres gained.

Please Simon, implement this game plan over the off season. We looked dangerous when we take the game on and get it quickly into our forwards.

No coincidence that Petty, JVR and Turner had combination of 10 goals between them because they got one on one contests due to quick ball movement instead of being bombed on their heads in a pack.

Thought Koltyn Tholstrup played a good game and had 24 pressure acts which is impressive for a first year player.

Have said this before on here a while back, but Daniel Turner up forward reminds me so much of David Neitz in the way he moves and jumps at the contest and his kicking action is eerily similar.

He's aggressive and hits the contests hard. Everyone thing you live as a key forward. Sam Collins started on him and by quarter time they had to move him of Turner because he could stay with him. Collins is no slouch and one of the better defenders in the league, so that's a huge confidence booster for Disco going into the pre season.

There is something to work with there. He needs a huge off season in terms of getting his fitness levels up, but if he trains as a full time forward over the summer then reason why he can't kick 30-35 goals next year 

Blake Howes played his best game for the club. Looked far more composed and assured with ball in hand. Could be a smoke for rising star nomination.

Liked Marty Hores game as well. He's worth keeping on the rookie list as depth and experience. Always puts himself in good positions to take an intercept mark.

Gold Coast are an absolute joke to the competition. The amount of talent they have on their list to then perform the way that they have this is just pathetic. 

I'd be going full raid on their list to pick off their young talent.

Edited August 17 by dazzledavey36

[Fork 'em 6,983]

14 hours ago, DiscoStu17 said:

 Even the best players are just threads in the culture of good teams and clubs.
Ask Buddy about leaving for more success elsewhere. 

To be fair Buddy left for 10million bucks and some anonymity in Sydney.
Left after winning flag in 2013 and Hawthorn went on to win the next 2 after that.

[Lucifers Hero 39,820]

1 hour ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Anyone else confused how Viney can play some games at 110% and go full beast mode while some games he just goes at about 80%? If he played with that intensity every week he’d probably be a top 3 player in the comp. Just incredible.

My theory is that when Oliver isn't playing Viney becomes 'numero uno' of the inside midfielders and his game lifts accordingly.  We saw the same last year when Oliver didn't play. 

He came 7th in the Brownlow lasty year.  Without checking my guess many of them were when Oliver didn't play or when he was playing injured.  He will get 3 votes yesterday but deserved many more.

Viney's game yesterday was herculean, especially after he had a serious knock to his shoulder in the first quarter.   Showing the world the dees aren't done and underestimate us at one's peril.

[layzie 33,814]

Missed the first quarter and a half but have since seen the replay. I thought we were outstanding yesterday, cane with a plan and intent. We ran hard all day and looked like we wanted it. Very proud of this effort.

You have to love when Jack Viney puts in a game like this, best game of the season, he was like Knuckles the echidna.

Ed Langdon is finding his elite level once again and I'm so stoked that we've re-signed him. Look at Steele Sidebottom yesterday, these players go deep into their 30s and we need this guy holding our width going into the future.

Disco Turner presents very well and gives as a nice foil up forward, but I was particularly impressed with Petty's game, 9 touches 8 marks. Gave us something to kick to.

Love the lines Dirk runs and his field kicking will be an asset, a fit and healthy Bowey will be a good addition again next year as well. 

Winning is great, let's finish strong and knock off the stupid Pies next week.

[Farmer 883]

17 hours ago, Demon17 said:

True on Nibbler, but why can't Rivers, Turner, Tholstrup, Windsor etc.   be the next to take over that mantle.

 

16 hours ago, drysdale demon said:

That is about the most positive thing you have ever posted about the mfc.

Might it be possible to cut a deal with ANB whereby he lives in Adelaide but plays for MFC.?

[Salems Lot 2,535]

18 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Gawn spoke wonderfully yet again. Great captain and leader. To me today was a performance of united group, no fractures.
 

Can’t say how I feel about Trac though. Can’t see him with the team in the rooms. Oliver is there, Spargs is there.

Where are you Trac?

 

May not be allowed to fly at the moment

[Farmer 883]

15 hours ago, Return to Glory said:

Could we have something a little special on our hands with Disco Turner? 

Too early yet. He’s still pretty ordinary below his knees.  I recall when I first realised we had a gun in Luke Jackson, in a match v Cats in greasy conditions at the G his ball handling was sublime. Disco, nowhere near that level, his summer should be devoted to ground balls and also handball. He has missed a lot of hand passes this year.  But I do like him a lot 

[Sydee 4,444]

3 minutes ago, Farmer said:

Too early yet. He’s still pretty ordinary below his knees.  I recall when I first realised we had a gun in Luke Jackson, in a match v Cats in greasy conditions at the G his ball handling was sublime. Disco, nowhere near that level, his summer should be devoted to ground balls and also handball. He has missed a lot of hand passes this year.  But I do like him a lot 

[Farmer 883]

16 hours ago, DiscoStu17 said:

I would love to see Hardwick finish 9th for the next few years.

 

16 hours ago, Age said:

Good win. Hey, did anyone know that Gold Coast were going for their 11th win of the year which would be their best year ever??

only heard that every few minutes for the whole game…

That’s correct. The suggestion that GC were disinterested is nonsense 

[JJJ 1,286]

Very pleasing win. Shocking past couple of weeks for everyone involved with the Dees, including supporters. Partied a bit too hard last night post match. Worth it though.

The senior guys really stood up which I loved. That said more to me than Pert’s interview or the statement we released early in the week. Taking ownership of the club by players will solve a lot and see us bounce back next year.

I was always optimistic that we would have a better 25 than 24 and there are enough sprouts in the garden to make me think we can have sustained success for the next 36 months.

[Farmer 883]

2 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said:

I had similar thoughts about Marty Hore. HBF is a unique spot to play - he has put in some good performances over time in that spot. Consistency will be the key, I guess. 

He does look a real replacement for Hibberd. Good preseason in 25 will be vital

[dees189227 12,394]

Haven't seen the proper highlights but I saw mcvee kick his first goal & everyone get around him & even goody had a smile.

 

[Little Richard 6,262]

6 hours ago, Gorgoroth said:

Heading back to Praha for a few days, Dresden then back to Praha and home. Did some nice walks around here.

Dresden is fantastic, if you're so inclined I'd highly recommend checking out the military museum there!

[Macca 16,972]

Pleasing to see a style of play with a far more attacking mindset.  Slick, quick, precise & daring

And a better balance of corridor football whilst still using teammates who have created space away from the corridor

Edited August 18 by Macca

[Adam The God 30,261]

56 minutes ago, Farmer said:

He does look a real replacement for Hibberd. Good preseason in 25 will be vital

Thought Hore probably played his best game ever for us yesterday. Took some good intercept marks, which has always been a strength of his, and he didn't look lost in the defensive system like the previous week. His kicking was also excellent through the corridor, but Hore doesn't play anything like Hibbo IMO.

The two closest players to Hibbo as running lockdown defenders on our list IMV are McVee and AMW.

Playing McVee higher and through the midfield means we need to either recruit and develop another or back in AMW.

Edited August 18 by Binmans PA

[Return to Glory 8,441]

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Watched the replay last night. Clearly Goodwin told the players that the shackles are off and it was time to just go and take the game on and have a bit of fun.

I thought whilst Rivers was poor by foot, he Bowey and Langdon were the ones that really got us going with their run and carry. They were top 3 for metres gained.

Please Simon, implement this game plan over the off season. We looked dangerous when we take the game on and get it quickly into our forwards.

No coincidence that Petty, JVR and Turner had combination of 10 goals between them because they got one on one contests due to quick ball movement instead of being bombed on their heads in a pack.

Thought Koltyn Tholstrup played a good game and had 24 pressure acts which is impressive for a first year player.

Have said this before on here a while back, but Daniel Turner up forward reminds me so much of David Neitz in the way he moves and jumps at the contest and his kicking action is eerily similar.

He's aggressive and hits the contests hard. Everyone thing you live as a key forward. Sam Collins started on him and by quarter time they had to move him of Turner because he could stay with him. Collins is no slouch and one of the better defenders in the league, so that's a huge confidence booster for Disco going into the pre season.

There is something to work with there. He needs a huge off season in terms of getting his fitness levels up, but if he trains as a full time forward over the summer then reason why he can't kick 30-35 goals next year 

Blake Howes played his best game for the club. Looked far more composed and assured with ball in hand. Could be a smoke for rising star nomination.

Liked Marty Hores game as well. He's worth keeping on the rookie list as depth and experience. Always puts himself in good positions to take an intercept mark.

Gold Coast are an absolute joke to the competition. The amount of talent they have on their list to then perform the way that they have this is just pathetic. 

I'd be going full raid on their list to pick off their young talent.

Dazzle, was at local footy and had a peek at the score early on. Think it was 2.2 to zip. Felt we might get a touch up. GCS appears to be a club without soul. Great if you live on the GC and want to watch a high standard match but that's about it. Yeah, raid away. That Sam Flanders looked like he goes alright. No idea where he sits in their pecking order.

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Watched the replay last night. Clearly Goodwin told the players that the shackles are off and it was time to just go and take the game on and have a bit of fun.

I thought whilst Rivers was poor by foot, he Bowey and Langdon were the ones that really got us going with their run and carry. They were top 3 for metres gained.

Please Simon, implement this game plan over the off season. We looked dangerous when we take the game on and get it quickly into our forwards.

No coincidence that Petty, JVR and Turner had combination of 10 goals between them because they got one on one contests due to quick ball movement instead of being bombed on their heads in a pack.

Thought Koltyn Tholstrup played a good game and had 24 pressure acts which is impressive for a first year player.

Have said this before on here a while back, but Daniel Turner up forward reminds me so much of David Neitz in the way he moves and jumps at the contest and his kicking action is eerily similar.

He's aggressive and hits the contests hard. Everyone thing you live as a key forward. Sam Collins started on him and by quarter time they had to move him of Turner because he could stay with him. Collins is no slouch and one of the better defenders in the league, so that's a huge confidence booster for Disco going into the pre season.

There is something to work with there. He needs a huge off season in terms of getting his fitness levels up, but if he trains as a full time forward over the summer then reason why he can't kick 30-35 goals next year 

Blake Howes played his best game for the club. Looked far more composed and assured with ball in hand. Could be a smoke for rising star nomination.

Liked Marty Hores game as well. He's worth keeping on the rookie list as depth and experience. Always puts himself in good positions to take an intercept mark.

Gold Coast are an absolute joke to the competition. The amount of talent they have on their list to then perform the way that they have this is just pathetic. 

I'd be going full raid on their list to pick off their young talent.

It was definitely good to see some freedom from the team. We still don’t punish enough teams from turnover, so we need to play more like this to learn and master the running patterns required in forward transition. 
 

Scoring from stoppage which has been the backbone of our game plan is just too hard to do all the time. Sure it looks epic when it’s on, but teams counter this with the +1 or +2 at stoppage. This year showed that when we are a little bit off or unmanned, we are nowhere near it.

Heres hoping we do adopt a bit more of an offensive game plan next year.

[Adam The God 30,261]

2 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

It was definitely good to see some freedom from the team. We still don’t punish enough teams from turnover, so we need to play more like this to learn and master the running patterns required in forward transition. 
 

Scoring from stoppage which has been the backbone of our game plan is just too hard to do all the time. Sure it looks epic when it’s on, but teams counter this with the +1 or +2 at stoppage. This year showed that when we are a little bit off or unmanned, we are nowhere near it.

Heres hoping we do adopt a bit more of an offensive game plan next year.

So we should play +1 at the contest...

[Adam The God 30,261]

2 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

My theory is that when Oliver isn't playing Viney becomes 'numero uno' of the inside midfielders and his game lifts accordingly.  We saw the same last year when Oliver didn't play. 

He came 7th in the Brownlow lasty year.  Without checking my guess many of them were when Oliver didn't play or when he was playing injured.  He will get 3 votes yesterday but deserved many more.

Viney's game yesterday was herculean, especially after he had a serious knock to his shoulder in the first quarter.   Showing the world the dees aren't done and underestimate us at one's peril.

So you try and split the stoppage attendances between Clarry and Viney. Or make them both rotate as the defensive mids and attacking mids.

You've definitely got a point that Jack stands up without Clarry.

[DiscoStu17 734]

One of my favourite pieces of play yesterday was Petty’s mark for the first goal of Q2. 
Petty out bodied Collins, while Disco had body on Ballard. Bit of a shame Clohesy was allowed to come in but Billings was correctly on the defensive side. Lucky he wasn’t any bigger.

Too many times over the past 3 years marking forwards have been left to compete with 3 defenders or more.

Forwards need to be as much or more accountable than defenders. Looking forward to seeing the results of another preseason. 

[Scoop Junior 3,472]

3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Watched the replay last night. Clearly Goodwin told the players that the shackles are off and it was time to just go and take the game on and have a bit of fun.

I thought whilst Rivers was poor by foot, he Bowey and Langdon were the ones that really got us going with their run and carry. They were top 3 for metres gained.

Please Simon, implement this game plan over the off season. We looked dangerous when we take the game on and get it quickly into our forwards.

No coincidence that Petty, JVR and Turner had combination of 10 goals between them because they got one on one contests due to quick ball movement instead of being bombed on their heads in a pack.

It’s always a bit easier to play with more freedom when there is little on the line. But while we did play well, I don’t think there was any radical change in game plan or methodology - we simply played a side that offered virtually no resistance after half time. I couldn’t believe how pathetic the Suns were in letting us do as we pleased after half time. It was bordering on a training drill. It wasn’t a true reflection of the usual pressure you face week in week out in senior footy.