Christian Petracca

[Young Blood 2,242]

I'm a little surprised there hasn't been at least one person on here yet entertaining what we would be asking back in a Petracca trade, lol.

Edited August 13 by Young Blood

[Demonsterative 3,016]

8 minutes ago, Little Richard said:

The crux of Trac's issue lies mostly with one person in the football department and I would be surprised if they're still at the MFC in 2025. The sauce is good.

Is this your sauce? 
 

 

I agree, it’s very good 

😋😋

[Ted Lasso 18,739]

27 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

What exactly did you want him to say?

He didn't sugar coat the truth, and it's obvious there are issues at the club. You don't go from top 4 to bottom 6 if everything is sunshine and rainbows.

At least they are trying to do something about it, and talking to our best players and leaders is a very good start.

You'd be worried if everyone internally was happy and saw nothing that needed fixing wouldn't you?

I would be annoyed if any of our leaders were happy about this season, or our coaches for that matter.

Well i'd say if you're releasing a statement in response to reports, a good place to start would be addressing the reports. 

I understand he hasn't because clearly there is some truth to them, but he still could/imo should have addressed them

I think as a supporter base at times we're very willing to just buy whatever the club is selling, this is the same CEO who went on SEN and said we have the best culture he's seen in 40 years at the same time the Clarry drama was playing out, which was clearly a laughable statement in reflection by any measure. 

We've got trade rumors around 3 of our stars, Trac, Viney and Oliver, shockingly low home game attendance, we've fallen out of the top 8 and most neutral supporters don't need to look too hard to realise things have been better at the club. 

Obviously he can't name names or give specifics around the concerns, but he can admit they exist and re-assure fans they'll do all they can to address them beyond speaking to players and coaches which is common place at every football club in the league every single off season regardless of the seasons outcome. 

 

[The Taciturn Demon 346]

6 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

My guy Finn Callaghan

No more exciting footballer in the competition at the moment. 

[Dee*ceiving 1,630]

Selwyn Griffiths? 

Clearly we've fostered a mindset of resilience and playing through pain and injury since the Burgess days. Perhaps this midset/tactic has taken to heavy of a toll?

Perhaps SG (or others in the FD) have played the card to often or too hard? If it's not Goody that's a source of discontent for CP5, who might a bigger influence than the head of high performance? 

[Adam The God 29,291]

28 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Whilst I know you're willing to give up a future first, I'd raise this proposal first.

My guy Finn Callaghan is out of contract next year and he looks every bit of a superstar in the making.

He's childhood and best friends with Blake Howes and I think if there was a player in the competition I'd throw the war chest at its Callaghan. 

I'm not a big believer that we should be going out and spending big on a key forward as some continue to report in the media.

Collingwood won a flag with Mihocek and Mason Cox of all people. Build around JVR, Jefferson and Turner perhaps.

I agree with you that the forwardline talls are fine. I'd also argue that the backline talls are fine. I'd like more class at both ends of the field, but that's not absolutely necessary. It's the midfield.

I'd like Callaghan as well. I wrote this on the other thread, but we'll have a future 1st next year, and it's likely we'll be able to trade 2027 picks as well.

I think we can win it next year and we owe it to guys like Trac who signed long term deals to dip our toes in both pools (Houston and an elite talent this year).

I'd be backing our list management team to work our way back into the 2025 first round if needed.

Edited August 13 by Binmans PA

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,283]

9 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Whilst I know you're willing to give up a future first, I'd raise this proposal first.

My guy Finn Callaghan is out of contract next year and he looks every bit of a superstar in the making.

He's childhood and best friends with Blake Howes and I think if there was a player in the competition I'd throw the war chest at its Callaghan. 

I'm not a big believer that we should be going out and spending big on a key forward as some continue to report in the media.

Collingwood won a flag with Mihocek and Mason Cox of all people. Build around JVR, Jefferson and Turner perhaps.

I think we could do both. Talk is that from next year we can trade two years in advance, so could be able to trade 2026 and 2027 picks.

[daisycutter 29,288]

13 minutes ago, FreedFromDesire said:

I'm not sure I deserve such an angry response. We can have differing thoughts on this without the need for attacking each other. In my opinion, most of these kinds of stories come about from player management having a symbiotic relationship with newsbreaker types in the media. As much as I don't like Tom Morris, I very much doubt his information was 'unsourced'.

next time drop such stuff as "i have no doubt" unless you can back it up

obvious speculation is fine

[John Crow Batty 8,763]

11 minutes ago, #11-TonyAnderson said:

What sort of sauce - tomato, sweet chilli. mayo, garlic etc?. Did you meant source?

Whatever it is, it’s;

 

Edited August 13 by John Crow Batty

[titan_uranus 24,556]

So the statement tells us that the club has been speaking with players to get feedback on what's gone wrong this year.

Piecing things together, it seems like Trac has taken that opportunity to ventilate issues he has with the club. If we believe Morris, those issues don't include Goodwin. 

Given how bad our fitness has been this year, I am going out on a limb here and suggesting (with no evidence at all) that one of his issues with the club has been our fitness program. I just wouldn't be surprised at all if his injury made him reflect more strongly on the fitness/health aspects of the club. 

[dazzledavey36 52,690]

8 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

I think we could do both. Talk is that from next year we can trade two years in advance, so could be able to trade 2026 and 2027 picks.

Ohh yes I did forget that..

[spirit of norm smith 15,056]

Thanks to Gary Pert 👏👏

 

@Young Blood  we are not even thinking about trading Trac. Full stop. Trac is red and blue.  
No use forecasting his trade value.  

[Moonshadow 17,464]

31 minutes ago, Little Richard said:

The crux of Trac's issue lies mostly with one person in the football department and I would be surprised if they're still at the MFC in 2025. The sauce is good.

 

 

Edited August 13 by Moonshadow

[Young Blood 2,242]

5 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Thanks to Gary Pert 👏👏

 

@Young Blood  we are not even thinking about trading Trac. Full stop. Trac is red and blue.  
No use forecasting his trade value.  

Oh no no I agree. I was actually just impressed that no one had entertained what it would look like yet (yes setting a low bar for Demonland). Not inviting this at all! no interest in trading a generational superstar in his peak years :)

[drysdale demon 4,673]

28 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Dont leave us hanging... which coach is it?

Any coach you want it to be, he didn't actually say it was a coach

[frankie_d 1,467]

29 minutes ago, binman said:

Spot on.

And as much as i can't stand Morris, he, and his masters, are only responding to demand from consumers.

One of the curious things about the discussion about social media platforms prioritizing hate and division in their algorithms is the one way criticism. That's to say its all reserved for the platforms and their owners and none for their consumers - us. 

The algorithm is simply responding to what consumers are attracted to - anger, car crashes, conflict. It's ever been thus - for example the wall to wall coverage Jack The Ripper received - sold a lot of newspapers at the time. 

If we feed the trolls we get what we deserve. 

Edward Wilson:

"The real problem of humanity is the following: We have Paleolithic emotions, medieval institutions and godlike technology. And it is terrifically dangerous, and it is now approaching a point of crisis overall"

Our paleolithic midbrains are the target of the god-like technology, and we find it hard to resist!

[Deelectable 1,043]

25 pages basically devoted to the [censored] Tom Morris.  How embarrassing. 

[Jaded No More 67,598]

18 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

 

Obviously he can't name names or give specifics around the concerns, but he can admit they exist and re-assure fans they'll do all they can to address them beyond speaking to players and coaches which is common place at every football club in the league every single off season regardless of the seasons outcome. 

 

I thought this is exactly what he said, but maybe I read between the lines.

I don't think anyone would have read that statement and thought "everything is peachy". It's very obvious that things are not great and we are working to certify the situation.

[daisycutter 29,288]

i'm still trying to work out exactly what morris is really saying

no source (even vague), no context, no details etc etc

i'd be absolutely amazed if everyone in the mfc and all its supporters weren't frustrated/disappointed (add any other synonyms you like) with the season the club has just had

i'd be rapt if tracc tweeted a response on miserable morris like jessie hogan did

[gs77 3,915]

3 minutes ago, Deelectable said:

25 pages basically devoted to the [censored] Tom Morris.  How embarrassing. 

He would be laughing his [censored] off at this.

[Sydee 4,182]

1 hour ago, Ted Lasso said:

Must say it doesn't inspire confidence. 

Not sure why it’s sensible and fairly direct 

Personally I’d be more shocked and disappointed if these internal hard discussions weren’t already underway 

Our club has a chance to continue to compete at the pointy end but not without constantly challenging what we are doing and how best to achieve success

If players like Christian who seems to set very high standards are not calling for improvement again I’d be shocked 

Most of us fans are so why on earth would it surprise anyone that some of our leaders aren’t too 

[Adam The God 29,291]

I think old mate might have been famed @The Riddler. Hi Tom.

[Gawndy the Great 9,008]

40 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Might not be a coach. Plenty of people in the football department who are not coaches you know.

Sure, but what role do they have that would have a significant impact on the clubs performance and direction? 
 

I don’t think Trac is coming out and making all this noise for recruitment  or the Performance team. 
 

If @Little Richard statements are true I’d have my house in someone from the coaching team. 

[Jaded No More 67,598]

8 minutes ago, Sydee said:

Not sure why it’s sensible and fairly direct 

Personally I’d be more shocked and disappointed if these internal hard discussions weren’t already underway 

Our club has a chance to continue to compete at the pointy end but not without constantly challenging what we are doing and how best to achieve success

If players like Christian who seems to set very high standards are not calling for improvement again I’d be shocked 

Most of us fans are so why on earth would it surprise anyone that some of our leaders aren’t too 

The irony of course is that our fans are screaming the place down asking for everyone to be sacked, and yet they are upset that our players are voicing their own concerns.

I highly doubt that Cripps has never had a go at Carlton, while Neale was out the door at Brisbane. You have leaders in every club who would be unhappy, just as you would have employees in every business who are unhappy  when things are not going well.

If these discussions were not leaked, we would be none the wiser, and this would be just another end of season review for a club that has missed finals.

[Dee Viney Intervention 1,817]

Well done to the club for getting on the front foot and dousing this spot fire.