Christian Petracca

[Demons1858 1,711]

l mentioned this in the petracca thread ... its relevant but not sure its a seperate thread ... can't see any conflict of interest ... they both want money it would seem

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11 hours ago, Disco InTurno said:

As someone who works in this space I would say that without his footy talent his cooking stuff is pretty average at best. He’s not particularly charismatic on camera and offers really nothing unique or compelling in those videos aside from “footy player who also cooks food.” Without the footy, “brand Petracca” is pretty bland.

So brand Petracca now,  "Bland Petracca" later 

I'm so sorry, I'll leave noe

 

[Bonkers 987]

This is only the half of it, check out who is managing his commercial affairs and branding. As an outsider looking in there are conflicts of interest in every line of management. The whole thing looks like an amateur hour balls up.

[Jaded No More 67,599]

1 minute ago, John Crow Batty said:

If the future becomes untenable for both parties then it is possible by mutual agreement the contract is voided or highly modified to assist both parties to be rid of each other.

Ha you reckon team Trac is giving up $6,000,000? 

[titan_uranus 24,557]

9 minutes ago, Axis of Bob said:

Yeah, but why does it need a new thread when it is basically just a snippet of 6 month old information for the Christian Petracca thread?

Agree. The OP could have just written a post in the Petracca thread along the lines of “is anyone concerned that Trac’s brother works for his management team”?

That is, though, not the OP’s way.

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45 minutes ago, binman said:

Are you serious?

In what world would the MFC be paying a single cent of tracc's contract if he leaves?

In fact, if anything the dees might even be prepared to take unders in terms of what another club offers us to get his exorbitant salary of the books.

The reality is that even if tracc changes his tune and wants to stay:

- he turns 29 in January

- won't be able to put a full preseason together (he hasn't been able to do any running yet, or presumably strength work, so his fitness base must be completey eroded), which will impact his 2025 season 

- has said himself he is struggling with the trauma relating to the injury

- if I was a betting man, I would offer no better than even money (ie 50 50) that tracc will ever get back to his best

- seemingly has burned bridges with his teammates (and possibly coach, and almost certainly the footy dept and board).

In short, even leaving aside the impact of him staying when he wants out, there is a very good chance we would not get value from our investment

In that context, it might be prudent  for the dees to take unders. 

We will then have plenty of cash, particularly with gus' salary iff rhe books, to invest in our young guns and money to attract stars from other clubs.

However the media spin this, the MFC has the whip hand here. 

For the reasons you identify, I agree Trac is no longer worth the value of his contract (and that's before factoring in his further degradation in value due to destabilising the club).

If he were a committed MFC player, I would wear the loss and support him. As we have with Oliver.

If he truly wants out, then we have an opportunity to balance our books, restore unity and regenerate an aging midfield.

It feels crazy to be writing this but it now seems a trade is best for both parties. My only concern is the ability to get an acceptable deal done.    

[layzie 32,717]

20 minutes ago, demoniac said:

His player agents are Connor Sports who we all know can manage their way out of a paper bag. 

His newly minted commercial agent may not be as well versed in the complexities of salary caps and trade capital.

Which agent is he listening to? 

Even if he decides to force a trade at well below his value he still needs to find a club he wants to go to that has the cap space to take on his contract. Both Pies and Blues would have to trade an elite player out or multiple good players out to fit his contract. Connor Sports would be telling him this.

So maybe he'll need to take a paycut to go to a club of his choice. 

Or go to North. Marvel stadium has great kitchens I hear.

 

All I have to go by right now is this:

- Player signs 7 year extension in 2021

- Player and management would should have been all over potential scenarios and situations

- Club remunerates well at the cost of their own future and potential to bring in other players

- Player asks agent (in this case D'Orazio) if there's any way to break the contract.

 

If that last point is true after the preceding 3 points then said player is a lot stupider than we thought they were. 

Edited August 27 by layzie

[640MD 3,312]

7 minutes ago, John Crow Batty said:

Some WC fans here in Perth I know are not happy the way he is developing. He’s got to cool his head and become more disciplined. Opposition players  have worked this out and now give him a hard time. 

Got to be said   he is very young,   Need an old head on young shoulders

[John Crow Batty 8,763]

9 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Ha you reckon team Trac is giving up $6,000,000? 

Ha, A friend divorced his wife and lost similar wealth and money. He was very happy to be rid of her for his “mental health”. From Malvern mansion to South Yarra flat and world travel became his lot. Some people put a dollar value on everything but often wealth becomes a millstone around the neck. I know it can be hard for some to find this comprehensible.. 

Edited August 27 by John Crow Batty

[Lexinator 1,494]

46 minutes ago, TRIGON said:

Please ex-spleen?

I will see myself out

Yes... yes, you will.

[Fat Tony 5,071]

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/why-petracca-s-bid-to-depart-the-demons-remains-a-long-shot-20240826-p5k5eu.html

The Age article outlines all the reasons why a trade won't happen. Another club would have to fork out a huge percentage of their salary cap and picks in order to get Petracca, who has doubts on his physical and mental fitness.

The club and players needs to make sure we can be conciliatory, because the most likely situation is we have to kiss and make up.

[640MD 3,312]

50 minutes ago, TRIGON said:

Please ex-spleen?

I will see myself out

Thanks  I will keep it in mind,  but I was serious,  I might not be able to  say nuthin

[Fat Tony 5,071]

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Edited August 27 by Fat Tony
Double post

[Demonland 70,216]

 

[layzie 32,717]

I could have sworn that Trac was making Eggs Benadict Arnold this week.

Edited August 27 by layzie

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2 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

They’ve considered using it before?! Does it state what for?!

[Fromgotowoewodin 1,497]

1 minute ago, Demonland said:

 

“his camp have considered using it before even in a very different circumstance”

that would indicate to me a) he’s wanted out for a while and b) had to argue a current grievance is so grave if you already thought about claiming other grievances previously, seems like you just want out of a contract you signed of your own free will. 

[Dr. Gonzo 23,672]

1 hour ago, titan_uranus said:

so whatever’s going wrong at the club is our fault?

Far out. 

What an absolutely ridiculous thing to say. 

The club’s problems are the problems of the board, management, FD etc. Supporters being loyal doesn’t change that. Collingwood supporters didn’t cause the Do Better issue. Hawthorn supporters didn’t cause the Cyril Rioli lawsuit. Essendon supporters didn’t cause the drugs scandal. 

Indirectly, supporters refusing to hold the club accountable let's it get to that stage. I've been guilty of this so I'm not saying I'm exempt.

I'm not saying we are solely or even largely to blame, of course the clubs leaders are those who are most accountable but if the supporters let the behaviour slide and have a "my club, right or wrong" view then the environment can become toxic because there is no accountability. Either we want a member run club or we want a franchise operated by the AFL. Which is it?

[layzie 32,717]

4 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Well, the way we played a lot of players through injury this year could strengthen a case. 

[Dr. Gonzo 23,672]

1 hour ago, The heart beats true said:

The article in The Age today says no one has the space or capital to make a trade happen. It also states he’s not interested in going to Essendon or St Kilda.

So he’s not going anywhere, and this has all been for nothing - except massive damage to both brands?

What a debacle.

In 12 months time though?

[daisycutter 29,289]

3 minutes ago, Fromgotowoewodin said:

“his camp have considered using it before even in a very different circumstance”

that would indicate to me a) he’s wanted out for a while and b) had to argue a current grievance is so grave if you already thought about claiming other grievances previously, seems like you just want out of a contract you signed of your own free will. 

i think the "considered it before" refers to connors group considering it for paddy ryder getting out of contract at essendrug. nothing to do with petracca

[beelzebub 23,175]

Well, we're still here so he must still be here.

Funny how true colours show through and I'm having to suggest his aren't Red and Blue....    more Pineapple / Avocado 😉 

In one sense I feel sorry for the lad. His injury will not have been pleasant.  I think worse, his guidance by 'others' is taking him down a rabbit hole of no return.

He seems easily suggestible. 

Careful what you wish for Christian.

Now.....wonder how many pages we can chew through today ;) 

Again...feel the angst the "little CP5's" are going to feel in coming months

Get it done Melbourne ( most likely after finals of course )....

Out damn spot.....

[Colm 1,918]

I wonder could Sydney be a Smokey to get a deal done. Hear me out.
I know he says he wants to go to a big Vic club but if none of them come knocking with a good deal and his relationship with the Dees is broken beyond repair….  

Chad Warner is out of contract next year and all the talk is he wants to go home and play with Freo. His trade value would probably be greater than Tracs. He probably wouldn’t get the same coin as Trac but it would be close.  Freo have the picks to get it done this year and Swans also have two late first rounders.

I’m sure there would be opportunities to build his brand in Sydney even if it’s not the footy bubble that Melbourne is. 

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4 minutes ago, Fromgotowoewodin said:

“his camp have considered using it before even in a very different circumstance”

that would indicate to me a) he’s wanted out for a while and b) had to argue a current grievance is so grave if you already thought about claiming other grievances previously, seems like you just want out of a contract you signed of your own free will. 

It's referring to another player Connors manages, who was considering taking up a grievance to get out of a contract, not a separate circumstance that Petracca has considered. 

[Fromgotowoewodin 1,497]

Just now, daisycutter said:

i think the "considered it before" refers to connors group considering it for paddy ryder getting out of contract at essendrug. nothing to do with petracca

Ah makes sense.