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35 minutes ago, binman said:

Of course it can. 

But the same could be said of every  VFL/AFL coach who has coached more than a 20 or 30 games with a better than 50% win loss record.

And of course, on that list of MFC coaches in the last sixty years only one has the most important stat - a flag.

Great comment binman. The problem this year was not the coach but injuries. Losing Smith and Gus before the season even started and then others over the season wrecked what was a good start. Add the complete lack of KPF’s and we see why we did not play finals. We need a good run with injuries next year!  What is happening with Smith? 

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Pennant St Dee
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It would have been more concise if you just said ”I am a dic;he@d”

Ollie fan
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Let's have a look at a few things. The vaunted Hawthorn/Collingwood fast movement style? Collingwood missed the finals. Hawthorn got there on a wave, very reminiscent of us in 2018, but got found

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Yeah, nah, goody is the only coach in my lifetime to take us too a flag, get a few draft picks and bounce back, I think Goody is doing amazingly well considering the number of young players in the tea

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I have come to realise how lucky we are to have Goodwin. One of our superstars has ADHD and addictive tendencies. And another is self centred. And neither of them can regularly hit a target inside 50. The whole playing group could have easily fractured and turned on each other with a poorer coach.

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11 hours ago, Cranky Franky said:

Your list of % wins by coaches is totally meaningless without information of available talent.

Daniher didn’t have May & Lever, he had Alistair Nicholson & Matt Collins.

Ridley & Beckwith were probably decent coaches but had poor lists.

Pro Tip Next time post something useful.

Get your facts right: Collins played for one season. Nicholson and Ingerson was more than handy. 

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11 minutes ago, Fuchsias Forever said:

Simon "Straight Sets" Goodwin....

Yeah, those straight sets exits in 2021 and 2018 were brutal!

Goodwin is 5-5 in finals with a Premiership. Not great, definitely not bad. He has the same number of Premierships as Scott and Longmire in the last ten years but hasn’t lost the number of prelims, or the GF flogging’s those two have, is that preferable? 

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43 minutes ago, deejammin' said:

Yeah, those straight sets exits in 2021 and 2018 were brutal!

Goodwin is 5-5 in finals with a Premiership. Not great, definitely not bad. He has the same number of Premierships as Scott and Longmire in the last ten years but hasn’t lost the number of prelims, or the GF flogging’s those two have, is that preferable? 

Longmire has zero in the last decade.

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2 hours ago, Monbon said:

Get your facts right: Collins played for one season. Nicholson and Ingerson was more than handy. 

 

2 hours ago, Demonstone said:

Get yours right.  He played with MFC for four seasons - 1998 to 2001.

I meant he played one full season - 2000. In fact, he played 29 games in 4 seasons, three of them cruelled by injuries.

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Since we got the wobbly boots on since about round 10, 2022....

We have WON 33 and LOST 29.

LOST 4 finals in a row (Straight sets) 

We also LOST 10 of our last 15 in 2024.

There are multiple factors as to why this has happened, but Goodwin has a hand in many of them IMO. It's a very big 2025 for the coach. 33 and 29 since that great run with "mostly" - Petracca, May, Lever, Brayshaw*, Petty, Oliver, Viney, Gawn, Fritsch and Pickett in the side is a big fail IMO.

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28 minutes ago, SFebes said:

Since we got the wobbly boots on since about round 10, 2022....

We have WON 33 and LOST 29.

LOST 4 finals in a row (Straight sets) 

We also LOST 10 of our last 15 in 2024.

There are multiple factors as to why this has happened, but Goodwin has a hand in many of them IMO. It's a very big 2025 for the coach. 33 and 29 since that great run with "mostly" - Petracca, May, Lever, Brayshaw*, Petty, Oliver, Viney, Gawn, Fritsch and Pickett in the side is a big fail IMO.

No doubt about it. We need to have a big 2025. But there’s actually a good chance we do it with Gawn, Viney, Trac, Oliver, Pickett, May, Lever, Langdon, Fritsch, Rivers, McVee, Petty, JVR, Windsor, Turner and co. 
Also when we lost the 10 of our last 15 we had, no Brayshaw at all, No Trac for 10, No Lever for 6, No May for 3, No Gawn for 2, No Salem for 4, No Windsor for 4 (he’s amazingly important for a first year player). 
I’d back us in with a good pre-season and some luck with injuries, to say nothing of pick 5 and improvement from Jefferson, KBrown, AMW, Chandler, Howes and co. 
But yes, Goodwin will be under huge pressure and should we do badly, he’ll probably be gone, such is the life of a senior coach. Hell, Longmire and Hinkley could be gone if they fail next year, and they just played in a GF and Prelim respectively. 

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Do we as supporters blame injuries too much or do we not have the adequate depth of a Brisbane?

In 2024 the injuries did start to pile up by the last month of the season, but in 2022 and 2023 we only had 2 or 3 best 22 players missing, and still had the elite of the elite in the side - Gawn, Trac, Oliver, May.

Brisbane just won a flag with the following players out:

Coleman - super half back flanker with an elite kick and was one of the BOG in the 23 GF

McInerney - starting ruckman.

McCarthy - capable 30 to 35 goal a year forward

Gardiner - not a particularly great player but was cemented in the best 23 as a third key forward before injury. 

 

 

 

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48 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Do we as supporters blame injuries too much or do we not have the adequate depth of a Brisbane?

In 2024 the injuries did start to pile up by the last month of the season, but in 2022 and 2023 we only had 2 or 3 best 22 players missing, and still had the elite of the elite in the side - Gawn, Trac, Oliver, May.

Brisbane just won a flag with the following players out:

Coleman - super half back flanker with an elite kick and was one of the BOG in the 23 GF

McInerney - starting ruckman.

McCarthy - capable 30 to 35 goal a year forward

Gardiner - not a particularly great player but was cemented in the best 23 as a third key forward before injury. 

 

 

 

Cant replace your best players.

Last year we were missing 3 of our top 6 players for half a season or more.

*Oliver without a pre-season I consider missing. He is not 2024. He may never be what he was, but he can be more than 2024.

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1 hour ago, rpfc said:

Cant replace your best players.

Last year we were missing 3 of our top 6 players for half a season or more.

*Oliver without a pre-season I consider missing. He is not 2024. He may never be what he was, but he can be more than 2024.

Spot on. We need a replacement for Gus and a KPF who can give us 30 goals for the season. It ain't the two backmen we are currently using. 

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20 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

And let's not forget his Big Fail of 2017,

What was the big fail of 2017? We improved our ladder position and win/loss position from 2016, and even then our list was never going to make us finals.

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