On 27/03/2025 at 13:58, titan_uranus said:

And your last bit is I think the underlying issue. I think you and the others who agree with you are just frustrated that our flag came in 2021. The benchmark isn’t a second flag, you just want to replicate it in a normal Melbourne year. It reads like you’re criticising me for “reliving” 2021, as if it’s a crime to reflect positively on it. 

I think its a crime that we lost 4 finals in a row with the list that we have.

Edited Friday at 05:102 days by jnrmac

I could never call this era and Goody's time a failure. I just couldn't, no matter how frustrated I get.

I just wish it turned out a bit better during that time, that's all. Will take it over nothing at all though.

9 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

This is hilarious. And pathetic at the same time

It's a pressure industry. Everyone has it, If you don't like it get out

I hope no-one from the football team reads this. I would hate to have you as a fan.

We went 57 years without winning a flag and then won one in an amazing year. Sure, it would have been awesome to win more in a row but we didn't. The fact people on here feel somehow entitled to it is ridiculous. Dynasties are rare. Some people need to take a step back and realise they sound like spoilt brats. But many people have preached this for ages on demonland and nothing changes.

Just now, Flowergirl said:

We went 57 years without winning a flag and then won one in an amazing year. Sure, it would have been awesome to win more in a row but we didn't. The fact people on here feel somehow entitled to it is ridiculous. Dynasties are rare. Some people need to take a step back and realise they sound like spoilt brats. But many people have preached this for ages on demonland and nothing changes.

I think for the next decade we're going to see a real mix of winners. Not sure how many "repeats" or back to backs we'll get. A very open competition.

40 minutes ago, roy11 said:

I think for the next decade we're going to see a real mix of winners. Not sure how many "repeats" or back to backs we'll get. A very open competition.

I agree.

2 hours ago, jnrmac said:

I think its a crime that we lost 4 finals in a row with the list that we have.

Our list was and is good but there are clubs that are just as stacked. I think there really is an unfair glorification of our list. Take the fact that we have never had a true star forward. There are teams that were more represented in the AA in 22 and 23. Again, such entitlement. Some teams are/were stacked and never managed to win one premiership, let along multiple.

2 hours ago, roy11 said:

I think for the next decade we're going to see a real mix of winners. Not sure how many "repeats" or back to backs we'll get. A very open competition.

please touch the nearest piece of wood

this has all the hallmarks of a 'dingley's four peat is all @roy11 's fault' written all over it

2 hours ago, jnrmac said:

I think its a crime that we lost 4 finals in a row with the list that we have.

I have to agree. We should have at least made a preliminary final in those 2 years

Bad Kicking is bad Football

Always has been and always will be….

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I have to agree. We should have at least made a preliminary final in those 2 years

Bad Kicking is bad Football

Always has been and always will be….

So the players at fault - not Goody?

15 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

So the players at fault - not Goody?

Both

29 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

So the players at fault - not Goody?

Both of course

57 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

So the players at fault - not Goody?

Both

Bailey Laurie selection and Grundy non selection

The kicking against Carlton was unprofessional

3 hours ago, jnrmac said:

I think its a crime that we lost 4 finals in a row with the list that we have.

Gee, that's an original viewpoint. I haven't heard any poster say that before.

1 hour ago, Flowergirl said:

Our list was and is good but there are clubs that are just as stacked. I think there really is an unfair glorification of our list. Take the fact that we have never had a true star forward. There are teams that were more represented in the AA in 22 and 23. Again, such entitlement. Some teams are/were stacked and never managed to win one premiership, let along multiple.

At last - someone who sees that other clubs want to win flags too, and some of them actually have pretty good lists.

17 minutes ago, Ollie fan said:

At last - someone who sees that other clubs want to win flags too, and some of them actually have pretty good lists.

Sandra Sully with a late breaking exclusive.

You just described the AFL .. true genius

12 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Sandra Sully with a late breaking exclusive.

You just described the AFL .. true genius

I think you are having a go at me but honestly, can't you do better than that?

My point was: the amount of times I read on this absolutely c..p thread that Good has wasted a list, the likes of which have never been seen before on earth or in heaven.

Which is such rubbish. We have had a strong list with a number of superstars. In the same period, so have WB, Brisbane, Carlton, Sydney.... two of which are empty-handed.

On 26/03/2025 at 21:12, Stiff Arm said:

Agreed.

We have too many average/poor kicks in our midfield. The long bombs are useless, especially when we have a bunch of prepubescent kpf's who understably struggle to take a contested mark

Max, Viney, Tracc, Clarry, Langdon, Sharp, Sparrow and Billings are all unreliable by foot

Hopefully the addition of Langford and Lindsay will improve this delivery, but it’s 2-3 years away before they hit their peak. We desperately need more elite kicks and decision makers 

IMO Max should not go i50, certainly not as a tall target. He's a terrible kick, can't hit the ocean with a beach ball. AJ or JVR should take ruck there

Yep ...Max should play a kick behind the ball much of the time. Imv that's when our wall looks more impenetrable although that was at least 2 years ago (or more) i think.

Can Max still take those down the line intercepts as much as he once did?

Edited Friday at 09:482 days by Demon Dynasty

54 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

Both

Bailey Laurie selection and Grundy non selection

The kicking against Carlton was unprofessional

And not giving 1 second of playing time to a starting sub in a semi final while the opposition’s sub is instrumental in their game winning passage of play.

The head coach should not be kicking own goals in a final.

6 minutes ago, Ollie fan said:

I think you are having a go at me but honestly, can't you do better than that?

My point was: the amount of times I read on this absolutely c..p thread that Good has wasted a list, the likes of which have never been seen before on earth or in heaven.

Which is such rubbish. We have had a strong list with a number of superstars. In the same period, so have WB, Brisbane, Carlton, Sydney.... two of which are empty-handed.

Yes... was ridiculing the suggestion. It deserved it.

Sorry to say whilst we ought to have made a better showing of 22 and 23.. atm we are ver VERY over rated and Goodwin is running on the fumes of past imaginings.

The Bulldigs are one hit wonders.... guess what, so are we.

Take a closer look at Sydney... they've been there or thereabouts for along while but I might agree their actual dividends are wanting. Brisbane of the last few decades make us look very average and underachieving. Can't be bothered with the scum... ( that said more than likely to finish higher than us )

Has Goody [censored] up and wasted a list ? [censored].. what universe do you live in ??

17 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Yes... was ridiculing the suggestion. It deserved it.

Sorry to say whilst we ought to have made a better showing of 22 and 23.. atm we are ver VERY over rated and Goodwin is running on the fumes of past imaginings.

The Bulldigs are one hit wonders.... guess what, so are we.

Take a closer look at Sydney... they've been there or thereabouts for along while but I might agree their actual dividends are wanting. Brisbane of the last few decades make us look very average and underachieving. Can't be bothered with the scum... ( that said more than likely to finish higher than us )

Has Goody [censored] up and wasted a list ? [censored].. what universe do you live in ??

Sorry mate, I still don't get your point - I THINK you are disagreeing with me but crikey, you are making a terrible job of it.

Bulldogs got a flag 9 years ago and I C an talking about much more recent history than that. You might not have noticed, but a lot of outsiders think their list has been the best in the league. Certainly, plenty of people think that Brisbane have got a GREAT list - actually, they do - and they have had one flag (20 years ago is ancient history). Others think the same of Carlton - no flags. Geelong have been thereabouts for ever - many many prelims - one flag in the last 15 years. Sydney - always there, no recent flags.

Apart from last year we have been super-competitive, with a very good list. End of story.

If you want to comment, can you do so in a way that we can understand?

8 minutes ago, Ollie fan said:

Sorry mate, I still don't get your point - I THINK you are disagreeing with me but crikey, you are making a terrible job of it.

I suspect you won't 🙄

Bulldogs got a flag 9 years ago and I C an talking about much more recent history than that. You might not have noticed, but a lot of outsiders think their list has been the best in the league. Certainly, plenty of people think that Brisbane have got a GREAT list - actually, they do - and they have had one flag (20 years ago is ancient history). Others think the same of Carlton - no flags. Geelong have been thereabouts for ever - many many prelims - one flag in the last 15 years. Sydney - always there, no recent flags.

Apart from last year we have been super-competitive, with a very good list. End of story.

Super ?? Lol

If you want to comment, can you do so in a way that we can understand?

I'm not sure you're up to that ... keep punching champ

2 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Sandra Sully with a late breaking exclusive.

You just described the AFL .. true genius

The way some people describe our "wasted years" on here, it actually does sound like true genius. You'd think we were the only good team in the AFL in 22, and 23.

17 minutes ago, Flowergirl said:

The way some people describe our "wasted years" on here, it actually does sound like true genius. You'd think we were the only good team in the AFL in 22, and 23.

This thread isn’t about a wasted dynasty, it’s about a coach who inherited an amazing list and amazing system who systemically destroyed the list over the last few years. He achieved this through poor team selection, lack of ability to make game day tactical moves, a very poor outdated game plan with a stubbornness to change.

my belief is that we would have won more finals with a more nimble, tactical robust coach who doesn’t play favorites.

Look at poor Spargo, twice he has come back early from LTI and twice got injured (different injuries) on 1st game back. This is on the entire coaching team and the head coach is ultimately accountable for performance and on this metric he has failed.

the time to go has already past.

Anthony Hudson eloquently described tonight’s come from behind inspirational Bulldogs win over Carlton as this:

“Such a Luke Beveridge performance”

Can anyone here describe what a “Simon Goodwin performance” looks like?