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11 minutes ago, Fuchsias Forever said:

Simon "Straight Sets" Goodwin....

Yeah, those straight sets exits in 2021 and 2018 were brutal!

Goodwin is 5-5 in finals with a Premiership. Not great, definitely not bad. He has the same number of Premierships as Scott and Longmire in the last ten years but hasn’t lost the number of prelims, or the GF flogging’s those two have, is that preferable? 

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43 minutes ago, deejammin' said:

Yeah, those straight sets exits in 2021 and 2018 were brutal!

Goodwin is 5-5 in finals with a Premiership. Not great, definitely not bad. He has the same number of Premierships as Scott and Longmire in the last ten years but hasn’t lost the number of prelims, or the GF flogging’s those two have, is that preferable? 

Longmire has zero in the last decade.

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2 hours ago, Monbon said:

Get your facts right: Collins played for one season. Nicholson and Ingerson was more than handy. 

 

2 hours ago, Demonstone said:

Get yours right.  He played with MFC for four seasons - 1998 to 2001.

I meant he played one full season - 2000. In fact, he played 29 games in 4 seasons, three of them cruelled by injuries.

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Since we got the wobbly boots on since about round 10, 2022....

We have WON 33 and LOST 29.

LOST 4 finals in a row (Straight sets) 

We also LOST 10 of our last 15 in 2024.

There are multiple factors as to why this has happened, but Goodwin has a hand in many of them IMO. It's a very big 2025 for the coach. 33 and 29 since that great run with "mostly" - Petracca, May, Lever, Brayshaw*, Petty, Oliver, Viney, Gawn, Fritsch and Pickett in the side is a big fail IMO.

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28 minutes ago, SFebes said:

Since we got the wobbly boots on since about round 10, 2022....

We have WON 33 and LOST 29.

LOST 4 finals in a row (Straight sets) 

We also LOST 10 of our last 15 in 2024.

There are multiple factors as to why this has happened, but Goodwin has a hand in many of them IMO. It's a very big 2025 for the coach. 33 and 29 since that great run with "mostly" - Petracca, May, Lever, Brayshaw*, Petty, Oliver, Viney, Gawn, Fritsch and Pickett in the side is a big fail IMO.

No doubt about it. We need to have a big 2025. But there’s actually a good chance we do it with Gawn, Viney, Trac, Oliver, Pickett, May, Lever, Langdon, Fritsch, Rivers, McVee, Petty, JVR, Windsor, Turner and co. 
Also when we lost the 10 of our last 15 we had, no Brayshaw at all, No Trac for 10, No Lever for 6, No May for 3, No Gawn for 2, No Salem for 4, No Windsor for 4 (he’s amazingly important for a first year player). 
I’d back us in with a good pre-season and some luck with injuries, to say nothing of pick 5 and improvement from Jefferson, KBrown, AMW, Chandler, Howes and co. 
But yes, Goodwin will be under huge pressure and should we do badly, he’ll probably be gone, such is the life of a senior coach. Hell, Longmire and Hinkley could be gone if they fail next year, and they just played in a GF and Prelim respectively. 

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Do we as supporters blame injuries too much or do we not have the adequate depth of a Brisbane?

In 2024 the injuries did start to pile up by the last month of the season, but in 2022 and 2023 we only had 2 or 3 best 22 players missing, and still had the elite of the elite in the side - Gawn, Trac, Oliver, May.

Brisbane just won a flag with the following players out:

Coleman - super half back flanker with an elite kick and was one of the BOG in the 23 GF

McInerney - starting ruckman.

McCarthy - capable 30 to 35 goal a year forward

Gardiner - not a particularly great player but was cemented in the best 23 as a third key forward before injury. 

 

 

 

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48 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Do we as supporters blame injuries too much or do we not have the adequate depth of a Brisbane?

In 2024 the injuries did start to pile up by the last month of the season, but in 2022 and 2023 we only had 2 or 3 best 22 players missing, and still had the elite of the elite in the side - Gawn, Trac, Oliver, May.

Brisbane just won a flag with the following players out:

Coleman - super half back flanker with an elite kick and was one of the BOG in the 23 GF

McInerney - starting ruckman.

McCarthy - capable 30 to 35 goal a year forward

Gardiner - not a particularly great player but was cemented in the best 23 as a third key forward before injury. 

 

 

 

Cant replace your best players.

Last year we were missing 3 of our top 6 players for half a season or more.

*Oliver without a pre-season I consider missing. He is not 2024. He may never be what he was, but he can be more than 2024.

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1 hour ago, rpfc said:

Cant replace your best players.

Last year we were missing 3 of our top 6 players for half a season or more.

*Oliver without a pre-season I consider missing. He is not 2024. He may never be what he was, but he can be more than 2024.

Spot on. We need a replacement for Gus and a KPF who can give us 30 goals for the season. It ain't the two backmen we are currently using. 

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6 hours ago, Fuchsias Forever said:

Simon "Straight Sets" Goodwin....

And let's not forget his Big Fail of 2017,

disastrous seasons in 2019 & 2020 & poor coaching & player management that screwed our 2022 season.

I won't even mention this year's debacles against West Coast & Freo.

 

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7 hours ago, Monbon said:

Get your facts right: Collins played for one season. Nicholson and Ingerson was more than handy. 

I'll make it simple for you. All 4 were Grand Final defenders.

While Goodie had the luxury of AA's Daniher had to use players who were barely AFL standard.

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20 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

And let's not forget his Big Fail of 2017,

What was the big fail of 2017? We improved our ladder position and win/loss position from 2016, and even then our list was never going to make us finals.

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8 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

Your comments are not even worthy of a response.

You just responded.

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39 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

I'll make it simple for you. All 4 were Grand Final defenders.

While Goodie had the luxury of AA's Daniher had to use players who were barely AFL standard.

The Demons made finals in 98, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006: To make finals so often with a substandard list can only have substance in the minds of the Crank Franks of the world.

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2 hours ago, He de mon said:

You just responded.

Cranky doesn't do irony.

Eg, "i won't even mention this year's debacles against West Coast & Freo"

Do they think they're writing in invisible pixels?

I won't even mention how hilarious i find their posts.

Pure comedy gold.

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5 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Do we as supporters blame injuries too much or do we not have the adequate depth of a Brisbane?

In 2024 the injuries did start to pile up by the last month of the season, but in 2022 and 2023 we only had 2 or 3 best 22 players missing, and still had the elite of the elite in the side - Gawn, Trac, Oliver, May.

Brisbane just won a flag with the following players out:

Coleman - super half back flanker with an elite kick and was one of the BOG in the 23 GF

McInerney - starting ruckman.

McCarthy - capable 30 to 35 goal a year forward

Gardiner - not a particularly great player but was cemented in the best 23 as a third key forward before injury. 

 

 

 

100%. There are people on here that think we are the only team that has injuries. Carlton had a far worse run with injuries, but still made the 8. We got beaten by an Eagles side without Yeo and Allen.

And we can't use an injury to Gawn as an excuse when the club didn't bother recruiting a backup.

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10 minutes ago, mo64 said:

100%. There are people on here that think we are the only team that has injuries. Carlton had a far worse run with injuries, but still made the 8. We got beaten by an Eagles side without Yeo and Allen.

And we can't use an injury to Gawn as an excuse when the club didn't bother recruiting a backup.

If Goody has to go because our list has under achieved he needs to be judged on the available list not a hypothetical one.

I don't think he is the coach for a rebuild but i also think we have another roll at the dice

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