greenwaves 516 Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 36 minutes ago, Nascent said: We'll be lucky to get a first rounder of any kind. Yeah Geelong can smell blood 1
Norm Smith's Curse 2,602 Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 1 hour ago, Young Angus said: These managers have it in for Melbourne. Connors have Tracc, Oliver, Houston and a few others so it's awkward. 1
ChaserJ 5,192 Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 1 minute ago, Nascent said: Come on Saints, Adelaide... Suspect Clarry is only wanting a trade to Geelong. The other clubs will likely know that. 4
beelzebub 23,392 Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 5 minutes ago, demoncat said: ‘kardiniacat’ is a step too far for me 🤔🤔🤔 but the ummmm 'cat' bit isn't ? 🤷
Garbo 1,567 Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 20 minutes ago, DubDee said: What nonsense! Why does it have to happen? Why can't he go somewhere else? We have asked Clarry to explore his options. This is one of the options. If the Cats are keen you can bet the bombers etc would be. Because the media needs it to happen, they cant make 2 weeks of content where the biggest story is Bailey Smith and what cats will trade for him
Norm Smith's Curse 2,602 Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 1 hour ago, Age said: I also really question how Goodwin can continue. All reports are that is saying that they can control Clayton and get best out of him but the higher ups are saying no you can't, we have to get him out. If a board does not think a coach can get the best out of his players when why is that coach still there? The prevailing narrative in AFL circles was that some people got away with murder while the team was winning. 4
Nascent 9,345 Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 2 minutes ago, ChaserJ said: Suspect Clarry is only wanting a trade to Geelong. The other clubs will likely know that. Indeed. Just annoying our players seemingly want to go to clubs with the least draft capital.
Supreme_Demon 4,136 Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 With Bailey Smith nominating the Cats, I don't know how they have any draft capital to also obtain Clayton Oliver. The Melbourne Football Club needs to hold Clayton Oliver to his contract. We have all the bargaining power. I am also angry that the CEO Gary Pert thinks he can act independently from the coaching team in determining the future of a player. Especially if Simon Goodwin wants Clayton Oliver to stay! If this is found to be the case then I want Gary Pert sacked for meddling in football affairs without the consent of the rest of the football department. I have been a supporter of Gary Pert as CEO. But this Clayton Oliver (and Christian Petracca) fiasco has been a PR disaster for the Melbourne Football Club. Heads need to roll and Gary Pert needs to go. Otherwise, we will have a massive downturn in memberships next year due to losing beloved star players! 4
Abyssal 470 Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 2 hours ago, Demonland said: “Can Melbourne hold him to his contract if the price isn’t right?” Bewildering. Surely he’s our player until MFC say he’s not or his contract is up. Or perhaps “journalist” Jay Clark meant to ask ‘should’ and not “can”. 2
ChaserJ 5,192 Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Nascent said: Indeed. Just annoying our players seemingly want to go to clubs with the least draft capital. They’re in their playing primes and they want to keep winning. Letting this play out the way it has for 12 months has put us in the laughable position of having a player locked into a long term contract and cornering ourselves into making the choice to let them go for unders. Edited October 3, 2024 by ChaserJ 1
Roost it far 10,126 Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 1 minute ago, Abyssal said: “Can Melbourne hold him to his contract if the price isn’t right?” Bewildering. Surely he’s our player until MFC say he’s not or his contract is up. Or perhaps “journalist” Jay Clark meant to ask ‘should’ and not “can”. It appears we want him gone 1 1
Brownie 6,086 Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 18 minutes ago, demoncat said: ‘kardiniacat’ is a step too far for me Farm Cat???? 2
Adam The God 30,721 Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 2 minutes ago, layzie said: Keep an eye on your emails.. The MFC aren't exactly great with comms, so don't bet on it. 3
Jaded No More 68,976 Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 1 minute ago, Adam The God said: The MFC aren't exactly great with comms, so don't bet on it. Geelong will send the email 3 15
Demon Dynasty 17,165 Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Supreme_Demon said: With Bailey Smith nominating the Cats, I don't know how they have any draft capital to also obtain Clayton Oliver. The Melbourne Football Club needs to hold Clayton Oliver to his contract. We have all the bargaining power. I am also angry that the CEO Gary Pert thinks he can act independently from the coaching team in determining the future of a player. Especially if Simon Goodwin wants Clayton Oliver to stay! If this is found to be the case then I want Gary Pert sacked for meddling in football affairs without the consent of the rest of the football department. I have been a supporter of Gary Pert as CEO. But this Clayton Oliver (and Christian Petracca) fiasco has been a PR disaster for the Melbourne Football Club. Heads need to roll and Gary Pert needs to go. Otherwise, we will have a massive downturn in memberships next year due to losing beloved star players! Is it possible that the only other person aside from Simon, wanting to explore every avenue to keep Clarry was Rofey? With her either being pushed out and / or leaving of her own accord seeing she was seemingly the only other person trying to hold the Clarry dam wall from bursting and a big Clarry fan / nurturer from last year on. Her departure then left Pert holding the reigns at the top. Having a counter view to Roffey and then some alleged further misdemeanours, Pert then decides to take it upon himself to put the feelers out and cut our losses now instead of waiting for the levie to break so to speak in 2025. Players (Tracc?) getting more upset and potentially losing multiple good guys during or at the end of 2025 and trouble bringing in potential trade bait instead of loosing Claz now? If Pert did take this route the question is why him and not those in charge within the FD? Does that mean there's also a major split of differences now post Rofey between Simon (others within the FD) and Pert? Edited October 3, 2024 by Demon Dynasty 2
DubDee 26,674 Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 In 5 years will we look back on Clarry as our Ben Cousins? I hope for his sake we don't 2
Clintosaurus 7,953 Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 37 minutes ago, Jack Vineys Anger Manager said: Now watch all the rumours and reports re Clayton's behavior mysteriously disappear when he joins a professional club. The media will probably call 2025 the year of redemption for Clayton, and get right behind him. Guaranteed. AFL HQ control the media and Geelong, Collingwood and Carlton are their faves. 1 1
titan_uranus 25,253 Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 17 minutes ago, Abyssal said: “Can Melbourne hold him to his contract if the price isn’t right?” Bewildering. Surely he’s our player until MFC say he’s not or his contract is up. Or perhaps “journalist” Jay Clark meant to ask ‘should’ and not “can”. We’ve instigated this. Which means we’ve lost the bargaining power to hold him. It’s, IMO, a monumental mismanagement of one of the 5 best players this club has ever had. 9 1
Abyssal 470 Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Roost it far said: It appears we want him gone That might be the case but my referencing of Jay Clark’s post was to question how Oliver could out if we didn’t agree. If Geelong really want him they need to compensate us. Also, MFC should not be conned into paying a cent of his salary. Edited October 3, 2024 by Abyssal 1
greenwaves 516 Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 19 minutes ago, Supreme_Demon said: With Bailey Smith nominating the Cats, I don't know how they have any draft capital to also obtain Clayton Oliver That's why we'll probably be left with the dregs
Rab D Nesbitt 8,953 Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 Whatever happens we can’t involve our 2025 first round pick in any trade as it will be pick 1. 4 2 2
Abyssal 470 Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 Just now, Abyssal said: That might be the case but my referencing of Jay Clark’s post was to question how Oliver could walk out if we didn’t agree. If Geelong really want him they need to compensate us. Also, MFC should not be conned into paying a cent of his salary. D
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