Oliver Trade Rumours

[Sydee 4,529]

7 minutes ago, Davos said:

Take it to the bank if Twomey is reporting it. 

Thanks for the many memories Claz.

Praying those in charge know what they're doing (not confident).

If those in charge knew what they were doing I suspect this club wouldn’t be [censored] in its own bed so badly 

[Sir Windsor 219]

If he does go, I fear for his wellbeing. The magnitude of this change will test his resolve and resilience. 

[DubDee 26,117]

16 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

What nonsense!  Why does it have to happen? Why can't he go somewhere else?

We have asked Clarry to explore his options.  This is one of the options. If the Cats are keen you can bet the bombers etc would be.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,287]

34 minutes ago, Age said:

The only way that I would accept the rubbish that we will get for him would be if the club actually grew a backbone and specifically came out and basically gave a list of reasons why he has to be out. It does not have to be exact but list things like missing specific behaviour related goals/KPIs etc etc. Basically trash the player so that we as members say "ok, he is terrible, we need to get rid of him..."

I know the club wouldn't do it but the way we just seem to roll over and accept things like being told we are not a big enough/relevant enough club (Trac) or that we can't handle players with too many issues (Oliver) really gets on my nerves and makes my dream of us being a powerful/successful club even more of nothing but a dream.

Don't worry they will leak to their mates in the media about how much of a loose cannon Clarry is so the supporters focus their anger on Oliver instead of where it should be directed.

[Jaded No More 68,973]

1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Don't worry they will leak to their mates in the media about how much of a loose cannon Clarry is so the supporters focus their anger on Oliver instead of where it should be directed.

You need to be careful using that sort of strategy, when you're already a club struggling to attract talent at the trade table. Especially given who Clarry is managed by.

We are looking like a shambolic organisation. If we start burning our own, even after they leave, it will be yet another red flag. 

Edited October 3 by Jaded No More

[roy11 3,893]

Just now, Jaded No More said:

You need to be careful using that sort of strategy, when you're already a club struggling to attract talent at the trade table.

We are looking like a shambolic organisation. If we start burning our own, even after they leave, it will be yet another red flag. 

Think we need to have a Review of the Review.

[Brownie 5,986]

4 hours ago, DubDee said:

Morning all

What fresh hell awaits us today?

Kozzy leaving?

[Tracca 853]

Just now, Brownie said:

Kozzy leaving?

hes not going anywhere , and has never said anything of the kind

[beelzebub 23,383]

Well ultimately in this instance Newton's  3rd is playing out.

🤔 But if the 'Buck' stops with Oliver then there are many 'quarters' accountable to others.... eh Simon 😉

[Brownie 5,986]

1 minute ago, Jaded No More said:

You need to be careful using that sort of strategy, when you're already a club struggling to attract talent at the trade table. Especially given who Clarry is managed by.

We are looking like a shambolic organisation. If we start burning our own, even after they leave, it will be yet another red flag. 

What's this thing you call strategy?

[Viscount Cardwell 185]

Don't shoot me but I look at this subjectively, Pert would have sounded out other CEO's regarding Oliver with Lamb's blessing (otherwise Lamb's tenure is not looking good). Any deal with any club of such a large extent, that would impinge on their salary cap would have to go via their CEO and Board, this cuts out all the argey bargey for their recruiting manager, trying to do a deal and the Board quashing it. Meaning the Board and CEO would know prior to doing a deal with Oliver's management group and Melbourne, that they would be likely to ratify such a deal. The Cat's CEO would have gone to their recruiters and set some parameters for a deal. Like I said don't shoot me.

Not sure I like the way Pert has gone about this though, it got out to the media very quickly. 

I personally would like Clarry to stay but it looks beyond him to change his ways.

[Jack Vineys Anger Manager 403]

Now watch all the rumours and reports re Clayton's behavior mysteriously disappear when he joins a professional club.

The media will probably call 2025 the year of redemption for Clayton, and get right behind him.

[praha 11,240]

I've said it once and I'll say it again: trading him to Geelong is going to be one of the dumbest things we could do, and other clubs are going to be asking Melbourne what the hell they are doing. 

Reminder that Geelong dealt with this with Stevie J, Collingwood with Swan and Didak, Hawthorn with their own collection of issues, and Richmond with Martin.

We somehow let our equivalent go from 4x B&F winner, multi-time All Australian, Coaches and Player MVP, to literally being the most cooked and overvalued contract in the league in the course of 12 months.

We will lament this. Irrespective of his cultural and behavioural issues.

[beelzebub 23,383]

Ahhhhhh...... fresh air says Clarry....

 

[Demons11 7,051]

Melbournes cultural issues have been tearing them apart for 2 years now and if this is the circuit breaker required then so be it.  1 player doesn’t make a team and I have a feeling this will help us more than hinder us.

Thanks for your service Clarry! 

Edited October 3 by Demons11

[demoncat 1,514]

Changing my name to just ‘cat’ if Clarry goes to Geelong 

 

[ChaserJ 5,157]

We’ve mismanaged Clarry to the point where we will be virtually giving him away.

Getting rid of him may fix some of the issues/distractions, but we don’t move forward as a club without moving on the folks who mismanaged this so badly. Farcical.

[beelzebub 23,383]

Just now, demoncat said:

Changing my name to just ‘cat’ if Clarry goes to Geelong 

 

🤔🤔  Irony much 🙄 

[demoncat 1,514]

Just now, beelzebub said:

🤔🤔  Irony much 🙄 

‘kardiniacat’ is a step too far for me 

[Garbo 1,542]

33 minutes ago, Demongirl35 said:

I don’t get it though…

If the guys not changing his ways why wouldn’t we let him go? 

Guess that’s the million dollar question everyone seems to be saying something different, I’d agree if he hasn’t changed then let him go.

[BangBnagBang 703]

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Maybe.. just maybe, this actually comes back on the Individual for once and not the club.

Oliver is a bloody 27 year old grown adult. For once how about he takes responsibilities his own actions.

The club literally had to move Oliver in with the Gawn family last year because of his off field issues. Sums it all up.

The footy club have seriously thrown every ounce of support and bended over backwards for him to try and keep him on the narrow straight. I'm comfortable if the club wish to trade him. They've done everything they can. 

Geelong are not certainty to fix him. Jack Steven and Mitch Clark come to mind? Bailey Smith and Clayton Oliver in the one room on a Saturday night.. good luck.

Where's Stengle?? in the toilet??

28 minutes ago, Davos said:

Take it to the bank if Twomey is reporting it. 

Thanks for the many memories Claz.

Praying those in charge know what they're doing (not confident).

Hes reporting his opinion.

However, he believes both Oliver and the Demons have reached a point where they should attempt to get a deal done.

[Red But Mostly Blue 4,547]

Looks like we're going to lose one of the 'bangs' 😢

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,602]

29 minutes ago, Davos said:

Take it to the bank if Twomey is reporting it. 

Thanks for the many memories Claz.

Praying those in charge know what they're doing (not confident).

Yeah i heard it yesterday from someone who should know - he is happy to head to Geelong. 

[seventyfour 1,177]

Go after Connor O'Sullivan. 19yo, 198cm defender, pick #11 in the 2023 draft.

Currently he's not even the first reserve option at the Cats, SDK didn't play in the prelim, so O'Sullivan is a way down the pecking order. He can come to the Dees and learn from May and Lever, and would likely play next year. He'd be ready to go as our #1 defender when May is eventually done.

Oliver -> O'Sullivan and Geelong's 2025 first.

[layzie 33,991]

22 minutes ago, Wells 11 said:

so....all of Trac, Pickett and Oliver likely leaving this year or next. Followed in the coming years by the retirement of big Max and JV. And the possibility that Caufield turns into nothing. Its like a welcome back to 2013....re remembering  the foot of the ladder and being the brunt of the media and other supporters jokes. We had a nice short holiday at the top . but this is a fall thats as  dizzying in its speed and drama as was winning the flag in 21. 

On the flip side. We did  win that flag....and for a 50 plus year supporter that is no small thing. Its a  piece of joy I never thought Id get.  I for one  will continue to buy memberships and support the club as fiercely, if not more than, I always have ...and hope we may re organise in some way to make our rise faster than it was back then. 

In the words of Biggie, "Your reign at the top was shorter than leprechauns"