Trade Targets

[demoncat 1,156]

25 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

 

Just because a bloke gets dropped, it doesn’t mean he will ask for a trade or they are looking to get rid of him 

It’s not just the fact that he was dropped, but that Adelaide has publicly criticised him for his Port comments and that his dropping looks more like a punishment rather than being based on his form (which has actually been good the past few weeks)

To me this looks like Ginnivan 2.0 - and who has had the last laugh there?

I’d be on the phone to his manager to try and get something done as part of the ANB deal

[ANG13 2,051]

1 hour ago, Adam The God said:

I'm no longer interested in Waterman.

If we want an experienced body I'd prefer Walker or Wright.

But JVR, Turner and Petty/Jefferson in 2025 works for me.

Let's spend TPP on luring a good mid or an x factor forward. TBH, Rachele fits the bill of the latter.

I agree with pretty much all of this. I think our tall forwards are actually developing ok and will hopefully be a fair bit better next year. I personally would rather see a quality mid come in but as you say another X factor forward would be fantastic too. 

[Adam The God 29,854]

3 minutes ago, ANG13 said:

I agree with pretty much all of this. I think our tall forwards are actually developing ok and will hopefully be a fair bit better next year. I personally would rather see a quality mid come in but as you say another X factor forward would be fantastic too. 

I think if we could land an x factor forward *and* an elite young mid that would be a brilliant off season.

We might even be able to land that x factor forward in the draft. Maybe someone like Reid or Cotton. They're not of the forward class of Rachele, but they could provide something inside 50 until they move into the midfield. 

[Demonland 70,971]

 

[Jaded No More 68,789]

I don't see the big deal with Adelaide dropping Rachele. He's a young player, and the Crows obviously have given him things to work out that he isn't doing. It could be things that to the naked eye are impossible to judge, like two way running or pressure acts etc. 

It's definitely not unusual for a young player, especially one in a role where it is difficult to always be making an impact, to be dropped. 

I highly doubt they would even entertain trading him.

[Adam The God 29,854]

31 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

I don't see the big deal with Adelaide dropping Rachele. He's a young player, and the Crows obviously have given him things to work out that he isn't doing. It could be things that to the naked eye are impossible to judge, like two way running or pressure acts etc. 

It's definitely not unusual for a young player, especially one in a role where it is difficult to always be making an impact, to be dropped. 

I highly doubt they would even entertain trading him.

It's the fact you could give him the off season to work on those things, not drop him for the last game.

I agree it's doubtful they'd entertain trading him, but I think it's worth asking the question if we believe he is in the top 2 or 3 targets we have and can make it work within our TPP.

I wouldn't want him being paid more than Kozzy for example. But you do sometimes have to pay a premium to lure a player away.

I'd just hope the lure of Melbourne (the city) is enough, and playing in a better team.

[Demonland 70,971]

 

[Gator 17,261]

I know Rachele has stagnated somewhat, but he's a very talented player and still only 21.

He was interviewed on SEN in the preseason and stated that most of his friends barrack for Melbourne.

I put this down to being from Shepparton, which was Melbourne's zone back in the old days.

I hope we're going hard for him.

[Adam The God 29,854]

2 minutes ago, Gator said:

I know Rachele has stagnated somewhat, but he's a very talented player and still only 21.

He was interviewed on SEN in the preseason and stated that most of his friends barrack for Melbourne.

I put this down to being from Shepparton, which was Melbourne's zone back in the old days.

I hope we're going hard for him.

Me too.

Has a natural instinct for goal that only Kozzy and Fritta have in our forwardline.

[FreedFromDesire 882]

Just a suggestion, but is there the functionality on this website to have a pinned post with players we've been reasonably linked to? It's hard to keep track, and I know there's both the media rumours and the handful of posters here who often seem to get inside information.

From what I remember, the ones I've read here and in the media that are some kind of realistic chance are: Houston, Harry Edwards, Isaac Cumming, Jake Waterman. Is that a correct wrap up as it stands? Thanks everybody.

[deelusions from afar 1,766]

Not sure if it is just because of the weekend's performance, but I think the talls in our forward line are looking ok (particularly with the development of Jefferson).  In my view it has been getting better most of the season and it is more the midfield that has let us down this year (which makes sense given the personel).  It really comes down to good ball movement and skills.

If we could clone Windsor a few times, that is the sort of player we need more of - fast, good skills, good decision making and surprisingly good in the contest.  I guess you could say McVee also has these qualities.

I also think the Houston interest is about having more players in the back half that can open up the game on transition.  We don't have too many players that open up the game with long accurate kicking.  Melksham is one of the few that does it in our team every now and then when he roams further up the field.  Given our athletic / mobile medium-tall forwards - particularly Disco, Fritsch, Melkshem and McAdam (haven't given up on him), having an extra player or two that can kick accurately over 50m would help us enormously.

 

So while they'd be helpful and great gets, I'm not sure Waterman or Rachele are really going to get bang for buck

 

[The heart beats true 18,056]

Adelaide have clear cultural problems.

(Hope you’re reading this Tom).

[Pennant St Dee 12,933]

Massive upside Tim Lamb get in contact with him and make him feel good, stroke the ego and show the love

[layzie 33,657]

Not unheard of but pretty odd to drop him now after playing every game this year.

[spirit of norm smith 15,895]

ANB for Rachele. Not the worst idea 🤣🤣🤣

[whatwhat say what 22,481]

5 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

ANB for Rachele. Not the worst idea 🤣🤣🤣

anb for rachele + we get our second round pick back that we gave up for mcadam

nibbs is a far superior player and we'd be paying a hefty long term contract for a player who isn't in the best 23 for a side in the bottom 4

Edited August 22 by whatwhat say what

[Adam The God 29,854]

I'd happily give up our future first for Rachele. He is a gun.

ANB + F1 for Rachele, and maybe a future pick or two so we're loaded up next year for Ah-Mu.

Edited August 22 by Adam The God

[Adam The God 29,854]

1 hour ago, Gator said:

I know Rachele has stagnated somewhat, but he's a very talented player and still only 21.

He was interviewed on SEN in the preseason and stated that most of his friends barrack for Melbourne.

I put this down to being from Shepparton, which was Melbourne's zone back in the old days.

I hope we're going hard for him.

It could also be that he went to Caulfield Grammar. There were quite a few of us back in my day.

[Gator 17,261]

1 hour ago, Adam The God said:

It could also be that he went to Caulfield Grammar. There were quite a few of us back in my day.

I found the interview from February this year.

He briefly mentions that a lot of his friends barrack for Melbourne and that they would have ''come down'' to the G to watch him if he wasn't suspended.  That assumes coming down from Shepparton.  The old zone connection makes sense to me.

Very briefly mentioned at around 4.30.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/02/05/how-talented-but-fiery-crow-plans-to-take-his-game-to-the-next-level-in-2024/

[adonski 11,359]

 

[Melonmonster 99]

As we have academy players and father sons hopefully coming to us next year through the draft , will that mean we will look to trade out picks for 2024 draft as they will be consumed for matching bids ?

[whatwhat say what 22,481]

40 minutes ago, Melonmonster said:

As we have academy players and father sons hopefully coming to us next year through the draft , will that mean we will look to trade out picks for 2024 draft as they will be consumed for matching bids ?

all depends on when / if the afl head office announce the changes to the points and the requirements of proximity to picks

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,302]

6 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

all depends on when / if the afl head office announce the changes to the points and the requirements of proximity to picks

I’d imagine the clubs and recruiters would have a fair idea already 

[Demon Disciple 11,947]

There’s no denying his ability, but imagine him in our forward line 😩. It would come out even faster than it does now.

Rachele = 0 forward pressure.

[John Demonic 5,673]

19 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

There’s no denying his ability, but imagine him in our forward line 😩. It would come out even faster than it does now.

Rachele = 0 forward pressure.

So if we trade Fritta for Rachelle it comes out the same as it does now?