If Curnow stays at Carltank, it's same, same, same. If he ends up at AFLney, he's top 10 in the league.

22 hours ago, Brenno said:

I don't think we should judge a players value/ability from one game to be fair. Averages 25 disposals in the VFL and he has shown he can contribute and has poise at AFL level. I am personally surprised he isn't a regular in there 22 a I feel his ceiling is much higher than a few that are ahead of him.

As for the Cost. Getting the player to request the trade is the first/hard part. Destination clubs like Geelong worry about getting the players attention first and the cost second. Just look at the Bailey Smith trade. They knew they only had pick 17 but pushed for it anyway and ended up with a steal. Pies didn't have a first rounder last year and still ended up with Houston. Clubs can find a way if there ruthless and aggressive about player acquisition.

Even if we don't manage to land if this year we will be in a good position to try again next year when he is out of contract.

Geelong pick their targets knowing they can exploit teams in trades, generally out of contract or guys clubs want out.

The only reason the Pies could get Houston so cheaply was because they knew Gold Coast were desperate for John Noble and Port wanted Lukosius.

Both those clubs also don't care about first round picks knowing they can get elite talent in other ways. We can't mess around with our first round picks, this year has been a perfect example of it coming back to bite us.

I don't see any leverage with Hawthorn unless they want Tracc.

Maybe we can package 2nd and 3rd rounders and get to something that makes Hawthorn interested, but I haven't seen enough from McKenzie to put a first on the table.

9 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Both those clubs also don't care about first round picks knowing they can get elite talent in other ways. We can't mess around with our first round picks, this year has been a perfect example of it coming back to bite us.

those in the know, like cal twomey, judge lindsay as a top 5-10 talent when compared to this year's crop

i have said before that i think his potential is higher than langford - you can't teach natural skill

17 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

those in the know, like cal twomey, judge lindsay as a top 5-10 talent when compared to this year's crop

i have said before that i think his potential is higher than langford - you can't teach natural skill

Langford would be the clear number 1 pick in this current draft, and Lindsay would very likely be top 3-4.

the trade ultimately was win-win for us, Lindsay is highly skilled, a great young leader and person and his first year was a little bit interupted with a serious pre-season injury. i'm really excited to see his 2026 after his first full pre-season, i agree i think he can be at least as good as Langford, he's got so many great assets and he's already shows he's comfortable at the AFL level

38 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

those in the know, like cal twomey, judge lindsay as a top 5-10 talent when compared to this year's crop

i have said before that i think his potential is higher than langford - you can't teach natural skill

38 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

those in the know, like cal twomey, judge lindsay as a top 5-10 talent when compared to this year's crop

i have said before that i think his potential is higher than langford - you can't teach natural skill

With a year's development at the club

On 28/08/2025 at 21:31, goodwindees said:

Curnow met with Dean Cox and other Sydney officials at the home of Dean Cox in Sydney very recently and the offer is Braeden Campbell, Hayden MacLean Sydney’s first round this year and next year.

Swap Papley for Campbell and I'd do that deal if I was Carlton.

Just now, old55 said:

Swap Papley for Campbell and I'd do that deal if I was Carlton.

florent instead of campbell according to a bloods' fan i know

Edited August 30Aug 30 by whatwhat say what

1 hour ago, old55 said:

Swap Papley for Campbell and I'd do that deal if I was Carlton.

I would do the original deal in a second.

Blues lose a 30 year old and gain 2 younger best 22 players and two first round picks.

Madness not to do that deal.

I would clear Tracc for that deal.

3 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

those in the know, like cal twomey, judge lindsay as a top 5-10 talent when compared to this year's crop

i have said before that i think his potential is higher than langford - you can't teach natural skill

It’s not a big loss as our current pick 5 probably becomes 9, but we gave up 2nd and 3rds for no gain.

It’s a big warning for trading future picks again next year for example.

We couldn’t trade for McKenzie expecting to be giving up a 10-15 pick. With a new coach and a genuine rebuild we could easily be genuine bottom 4 in a less compromised draft.

54 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I would do the original deal in a second.

Blues lose a 30 year old and gain 2 younger best 22 players and two first round picks.

Madness not to do that deal.

I would clear Tracc for that deal.

If Carlton haven’t squarely shut it down they’re considering it. But they’ll want to spin those picks in to a ready made player.

The best semi available option is convincing Zac Bailey to join on a huge money deal. He’s a free agent next year (so pre agent now) and if Brisbane actually have a salary cap they won’t be able to pay him anywhere near top of the market.

Likewise Brisbane will have to think long and hard about 2 firsts for Bailey when they’ve got so many mouths to feed

6 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

If Carlton haven’t squarely shut it down they’re considering it. But they’ll want to spin those picks in to a ready made player.

The best semi available option is convincing Zac Bailey to join on a huge money deal. He’s a free agent next year (so pre agent now) and if Brisbane actually have a salary cap they won’t be able to pay him anywhere near top of the market.

Likewise Brisbane will have to think long and hard about 2 firsts for Bailey when they’ve got so many mouths to feed

If you were Carlton you could say something like "Don't negotiate with us, call Port and convince them to send us Zak Butters, if you can organise that, you can have Charlie in a 3 way deal.

1 minute ago, Ted Lasso said:

If you were Carlton you could say something like "Don't negotiate with us, call Port and convince them to send us Zak Butters, if you can organise that, you can have Charlie in a 3 way deal.

Pretty much, but I suspect Butters is no chance when he can choose between Hawks, Dogs, Cats next year.

Bailey might not be too keen on Carlton either but 1.5 x 7 might turn his head.

2 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Pretty much, but I suspect Butters is no chance when he can choose between Hawks, Dogs, Cats next year.

Bailey might not be too keen on Carlton either but 1.5 x 7 might turn his head.

You have to wonder if the potential availability of Curnow does make the Lions doubt the Oscar Allen signing, i mean it's clear which one most teams would choose of those two given the choice and money required.

12 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

You have to wonder if the potential availability of Curnow does make the Lions doubt the Oscar Allen signing, i mean it's clear which one most teams would choose of those two given the choice and money required.

I actually think Allen fits what they need to compliment Morris and Hipwood. But they’d want to have confidence they get his body right. Same for their interest in Draper

5 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

I actually think Allen fits what they need to compliment Morris and Hipwood. But they’d want to have confidence they get his body right. Same for their interest in Draper

the evidence thus far says their medical dept gets players with chequered pasts on field and able to perform

i agree that allen will perfectly suit their needs

they're not going to want pointy picks this year with more academy picks available

next year, however, they will want some

i know theres always the argument especially recently about picking off other teans trash and it failing but sam butler should be on our whiteboard

1 hour ago, Turner said:

i know theres always the argument especially recently about picking off other teans trash and it failing but sam butler should be on our whiteboard

the hawks player?

from memory his broken leg was pretty nasty, has had further complications

Meanwhile...who are we into??

On 30/08/2025 at 12:00, old55 said:

Swap Papley for Campbell and I'd do that deal if I was Carlton.

Papley is 30, is constantly injured and is in getting worse at football.

1 hour ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Papley is 30, is constantly injured and is in getting worse at football.

This sounds like you could swap in Curnow for Papley and the sentence would still be true

2 hours ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Papley is 30, is constantly injured and is in getting worse at football.

Papley just turned 29 in July and this season is the first that he has missed substantial games through injury. He's played most matches, most years. He's young enough to get back to it. Look at Jamie Elliott.

7 hours ago, picket fence said:

Meanwhile...who are we into??

The media won't tell you until they have steered them somewhere else, or no other club wants them.

On 02/10/2024 at 21:11, ANG13 said:

I think you’re dreaming. Why the [censored] would he (Butters) want to come anywhere near our club. 

Port??

1 hour ago, monoccular said:

Port??

Good point.

Voss clearly want to kick out Elijah Hollands due to behavioural issues, but he's a damn good footballer IMO.

The young bloke from Essendon (Menzie) who put 4 on us at Gather Round this year has been delisted, as well as Alwyn Davey's son.

Edited September 1Sep 1 by Bring-Back-Powell