I don't see the big deal with Adelaide dropping Rachele. He's a young player, and the Crows obviously have given him things to work out that he isn't doing. It could be things that to the naked eye are impossible to judge, like two way running or pressure acts etc. 

It's definitely not unusual for a young player, especially one in a role where it is difficult to always be making an impact, to be dropped. 

I highly doubt they would even entertain trading him.

31 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

I don't see the big deal with Adelaide dropping Rachele. He's a young player, and the Crows obviously have given him things to work out that he isn't doing. It could be things that to the naked eye are impossible to judge, like two way running or pressure acts etc. 

It's definitely not unusual for a young player, especially one in a role where it is difficult to always be making an impact, to be dropped. 

I highly doubt they would even entertain trading him.

It's the fact you could give him the off season to work on those things, not drop him for the last game.

I agree it's doubtful they'd entertain trading him, but I think it's worth asking the question if we believe he is in the top 2 or 3 targets we have and can make it work within our TPP.

I wouldn't want him being paid more than Kozzy for example. But you do sometimes have to pay a premium to lure a player away.

I'd just hope the lure of Melbourne (the city) is enough, and playing in a better team.

 

I know Rachele has stagnated somewhat, but he's a very talented player and still only 21.

He was interviewed on SEN in the preseason and stated that most of his friends barrack for Melbourne.

I put this down to being from Shepparton, which was Melbourne's zone back in the old days.

I hope we're going hard for him.

2 minutes ago, Gator said:

I know Rachele has stagnated somewhat, but he's a very talented player and still only 21.

He was interviewed on SEN in the preseason and stated that most of his friends barrack for Melbourne.

I put this down to being from Shepparton, which was Melbourne's zone back in the old days.

I hope we're going hard for him.

Me too.

Has a natural instinct for goal that only Kozzy and Fritta have in our forwardline.

Not sure if it is just because of the weekend's performance, but I think the talls in our forward line are looking ok (particularly with the development of Jefferson).  In my view it has been getting better most of the season and it is more the midfield that has let us down this year (which makes sense given the personel).  It really comes down to good ball movement and skills.

If we could clone Windsor a few times, that is the sort of player we need more of - fast, good skills, good decision making and surprisingly good in the contest.  I guess you could say McVee also has these qualities.

I also think the Houston interest is about having more players in the back half that can open up the game on transition.  We don't have too many players that open up the game with long accurate kicking.  Melksham is one of the few that does it in our team every now and then when he roams further up the field.  Given our athletic / mobile medium-tall forwards - particularly Disco, Fritsch, Melkshem and McAdam (haven't given up on him), having an extra player or two that can kick accurately over 50m would help us enormously.

 

So while they'd be helpful and great gets, I'm not sure Waterman or Rachele are really going to get bang for buck

 

Adelaide have clear cultural problems.

(Hope you’re reading this Tom).

Massive upside Tim Lamb get in contact with him and make him feel good, stroke the ego and show the love

Not unheard of but pretty odd to drop him now after playing every game this year.

ANB for Rachele. Not the worst idea 🤣🤣🤣

5 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

ANB for Rachele. Not the worst idea 🤣🤣🤣

anb for rachele + we get our second round pick back that we gave up for mcadam

nibbs is a far superior player and we'd be paying a hefty long term contract for a player who isn't in the best 23 for a side in the bottom 4

Edited August 22, 20241 yr by whatwhat say what

I'd happily give up our future first for Rachele. He is a gun.

ANB + F1 for Rachele, and maybe a future pick or two so we're loaded up next year for Ah-Mu.

Edited August 22, 20241 yr by Adam The God

1 hour ago, Gator said:

I know Rachele has stagnated somewhat, but he's a very talented player and still only 21.

He was interviewed on SEN in the preseason and stated that most of his friends barrack for Melbourne.

I put this down to being from Shepparton, which was Melbourne's zone back in the old days.

I hope we're going hard for him.

It could also be that he went to Caulfield Grammar. There were quite a few of us back in my day.

1 hour ago, Adam The God said:

It could also be that he went to Caulfield Grammar. There were quite a few of us back in my day.

I found the interview from February this year.

He briefly mentions that a lot of his friends barrack for Melbourne and that they would have ''come down'' to the G to watch him if he wasn't suspended.  That assumes coming down from Shepparton.  The old zone connection makes sense to me.

Very briefly mentioned at around 4.30.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/02/05/how-talented-but-fiery-crow-plans-to-take-his-game-to-the-next-level-in-2024/

 

As we have academy players and father sons hopefully coming to us next year through the draft , will that mean we will look to trade out picks for 2024 draft as they will be consumed for matching bids ?

40 minutes ago, Melonmonster said:

As we have academy players and father sons hopefully coming to us next year through the draft , will that mean we will look to trade out picks for 2024 draft as they will be consumed for matching bids ?

all depends on when / if the afl head office announce the changes to the points and the requirements of proximity to picks

6 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

all depends on when / if the afl head office announce the changes to the points and the requirements of proximity to picks

I’d imagine the clubs and recruiters would have a fair idea already 

There’s no denying his ability, but imagine him in our forward line 😩. It would come out even faster than it does now.

Rachele = 0 forward pressure.

19 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

There’s no denying his ability, but imagine him in our forward line 😩. It would come out even faster than it does now.

Rachele = 0 forward pressure.

So if we trade Fritta for Rachelle it comes out the same as it does now?

54 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

So if we trade Fritta for Rachelle it comes out the same as it does now?

sure, and minus about 40 goals a season too

20 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

sure, and minus about 40 goals a season too

Rachele has kicked 30 as a 21 year old, and has a decade of footy ahead.

I'm not advocating that trade, I'm just pointing out that defensive pressure isn't a reason to not recruit someone. And the club could trade Fritsch and we'd be no different on that end.

Edited August 22, 20241 yr by John Demonic

I don't think Rachele is as bad defensively as some are making out, but the forward pressure question is different depending on the game style being played.

With a forward half territory game, inside 50 tackles are essential.

But if we look to go a little quicker (think 2018 style corridor footy), hopefully we capitalise on inside 50s and convert them before the ball has a chance to ping out.

If there Is even the slightest bit of unrest with Rachelle at Adelaide we simply have to enquire.  And work it in the ANB trade, we could seriously get a steal here.

1 hour ago, Travy14 said:

If there Is even the slightest bit of unrest with Rachelle at Adelaide we simply have to enquire.  And work it in the ANB trade, we could seriously get a steal here.

He sounds a bit flaky but has talent.

He has pulled out of a few contests, which Goody is not a real fan of.

How about ANB and McAdam?

Seriously, he is on a big contract and I wonder how that would play out.

Edited August 23, 20241 yr by Redleg