I thought that Grundy and JJ tried but Swans were outclassed all day apart from those first two goals, totally ineffectual. I thought that Lachie Neale was very stiff not to win the Norm Smith Medal clearly the best for mine.

Tim Lamb, Simon Goodwin and Maxy Gawn would be feeling pretty good about themselves after seeing todays performance from B.Grundy.

Clearing $1m a year off the books for the next 3 years.

Breathing a massive sigh of relief, he just doesn't do enough around the ground, no marking prowess, no presence about him in contest and doesn't kick goals all for $1m a year.

Today clarified there reasons for clearing him off the books.

Swans have a massive problem on their hands.

Edited September 28, 2024Sep 28 by YesitwasaWin4theAges

I posted this at half time in the match day thread:

"Grundy being exposed. One trick pony (blocking opposition ruckman at centre bounce). Time for him to grow a pair, jump and tap the ball to the advantage of Sydney's gun midfielders. Grundy's centre bounce tactic playing right into Brisbane's hands."

And, in response to someone who said he has been the Swans best player, "OK around the ground. Liability at centre bounces. There will be no bang, bang, bang if he keeps just blocking the opposition ruckman!"

Fort 19 hitouts (4 clearances), Grundy 36 hitouts (7 clearances).

Centre clearances Sydney 13, Brisbane 15.

AFL match report.

Best

Sydney: Rowbottom, Florent, Fox, Gulden, Parker

Brisbane: Neale, Ashcroft, Lohmann, Ah Chee, Daniher, McCluggage

Grundy was part of the problem, not the solution.

24 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Tim Lamb, Simon Goodwin and Maxy Gawn would be feeling pretty good about themselves after seeing todays performance from B.Grundy.

Clearing $1m a year off the books for the next 3 years.

Breathing a massive sigh of relief, he just doesn't do enough around the ground, no marking prowess, no presence about him in contest and doesn't kick goals all for $1m a year.

Today clarified there reasons for clearing him off the books.

Swans have a massive problem on their hands.

He never should have come to us in the first place. We never knew what to do with him.

2 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

He never should have come to us in the first place. We never knew what to do with him.

I loved the idea, the thinking outside of the box. Had it worked everyone would have called our football department geniuses. If it worked, it had the potential to be devasting.

It didn't work, sometimes the gambles don't work. It proved Max needs to be the number one guy. We found out that Max's forward exploits can't be turned into a consistent performance. But we did try it. Pretty strange for a coaching staff described as stubborn hey?

 

5 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

He never should have come to us in the first place. We never knew what to do with him.

Said it multiple times that money at that time should have been invested into a Power Forward not a ruckman.

1 minute ago, deanox said:

I loved the idea, the thinking outside of the box. Had it worked everyone would have called our football department geniuses. If it worked, it had the potential to be devasting.

It didn't work, sometimes the gambles don't work. It proved Max needs to be the number one guy. We found out that Max's forward exploits can't be turned into a consistent performance. But we did try it. Pretty strange for a coaching staff described as stubborn hey?

 

It would have been a good idea if there was an actual idea but it really just felt like we were trying to shove a square peg in Grundy into the round hole left by Jackson.

1 hour ago, Earl Hood said:

Ummh Brody was actually their best player, not that that is saying a lot. Won the hit outs and at 3 quarter time he was leading the Swans for disposals. He did his job. As did Jordan. 

56 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

Jordon must have only had a part-time job, then. 

He went missing for large chunks of the game with a mere 13 touches and four tackles.

I don't think either of these reads are correct.

Grundy racked up plenty of easy stats but was no better than break-even against Fort when the game mattered (i.e. the first half), a player he should have dominated. Offered nothing aerially, let Fort get some really clean looks at stoppage, and let Fort drift forward too often.

Jordon, meanwhile, started on Zorko and did fine until McCluggage went berserk in the first, so they moved him to McCluggage and took him right out of the game. It was remarkable that they were flogged in the second quarter despite McCluggage being quiet, really.

Wasn't Jordon's best game and his flaws stood out a bit (slow decision-making with ball in hand, got caught too many times), but his primary tagging role was largely a success.

That's probably a fair assessment, @titan_uranus.

1 minute ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Said it multiple times that money at that time should have been invested into a Power Forward not a ruckman.

Yeah I don't think our footy department should be patting themselves on the back for correcting their mistake and getting rid of Grundy.

I'm sure we had a crack at a number of tall forwards but unfortunately there just wasn't much on the market without having the clairvoyance to see Waterman turning into a gun or something.

When people talk about inventiveness, I would have preferred we looked at playing a smaller structure with the good players that were available rather than trying to brute force a tall forwardline with a bunch of guys who weren't good enough.

58 minutes ago, Bang Bang Bang said:

Takes way too long to get rid of it and has very little dare in his game.

He’s reliable, and a hard worker, and he had a good moment or two in the qualifying final. But honestly he’s as vanilla as they come. 
Our decline had nothing to do with him. 

You must've enjoyed that first quarter HTB as much as me! He somehow shrugged the first one and then had zero awareness in thinking he had time before getting planted into the turf straight away from the 2nd tackle!  

TBF the entire team played the same way, just frozen and petrified to do anything but bomb it long.

Edited September 28, 2024Sep 28 by John Demonic

3 hours ago, Supreme_Demon said:

Bodie Grundy was useless today in the Grand Final.

But he has a lot of team mates in the same boat.

Swans sh*t the bed against the Lions!

😮‍💨🤮

1 hour ago, Earl Hood said:

Ummh Brody was actually their best player, not that that is saying a lot. Won the hit outs and at 3 quarter time he was leading the Swans for disposals. He did his job. As did Jordan. 

Must disagree. In the second term, when the contest was decided, he allowed repeated Lions walk away wins at centre bounces. His grappling tactics failed when it counted.

54 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Tim Lamb, Simon Goodwin and Maxy Gawn would be feeling pretty good about themselves after seeing todays performance from B.Grundy.

Clearing $1m a year off the books for the next 3 years.

Breathing a massive sigh of relief, he just doesn't do enough around the ground, no marking prowess, no presence about him in contest and doesn't kick goals all for $1m a year.

Today clarified there reasons for clearing him off the books.

Swans have a massive problem on their hands.

Ur are kidding a Brodie Grundy was EASILY Swans BEST PLAYER....

 BY A MILE

2 minutes ago, pitmaster said:

Must disagree. In the second term, when the contest was decided, he allowed repeated Lions walk away wins at centre bounces. His grappling tactics failed when it counted.

Honestly I blame the swans mids more for that. Can't let the Lions walk it out the front like that.

I think we can all agree that we are very happy we are not paying top dollar for an average ruck who couldn’t dominate a VFL ruck in a GF

4 years left on the contract still? yikes

I still like him, seems like a decent sort of bloke. But he clearly played his GF during Round Zero.

2 hours ago, picket fence said:

Ur are kidding a Brodie Grundy was EASILY Swans BEST PLAYER....

 BY A MILE

Average in a poor side, doesn't cut the mustard for a player on $1m a season.

Can't wait to see what the Bloods are going to do when Gulden, Warner and Co come calling for close to a million a season in contracts.

Out manbagged,

Out man bunned

Out played by a geezer they grabbed from the VFL straight outta the pub.

9 hours ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Said it multiple times that money at that time should have been invested into a Power Forward not a ruckman.

I see comments like this a lot, but how many power forwards were available at the end of 2022?

The talls that moved at the end of 2022 were Grundy, Schache, Weideman, Lobb, Frampton, McStay, Meek. 

There's hardly enough A grade or even B grade power forwards in the league around to have 1 at every club. The chances of picking one up in a trade are very slim.

If we want to go with hindsight we would've been better off going after Karl Amon that year instead of trading for Hunter.

They thought Grundy would replace Jackson who was an understudy to Gawn… Grundy was never going to be that … compare what the lions have traded in its chalk & cheese, we just can’t attract decent forwards 

10 minutes ago, Demonsone said:

They thought Grundy would replace Jackson who was an understudy to Gawn… Grundy was never going to be that … compare what the lions have traded in its chalk & cheese, we just can’t attract decent forwards 

They now have a big problem in Eric Hipworth. Contracted to 2029. 

11 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

Grundy racked up plenty of easy stats but was no better than break-even against Fort when the game mattered

Mostly handballs that went nowhere or just handed the problem (of being under intense pressure) to another Swan. 

 

Grundy grinds away all match but he doesn’t have much athleticism anymore, doesn’t do anything special at all no big marks or goals….just an old school plodder ruckman: he should have been able to take Fort to the cleaners but couldn’t.

Edited September 28, 2024Sep 28 by sisso

2 hours ago, seventyfour said:

I see comments like this a lot, but how many power forwards were available at the end of 2022?

The talls that moved at the end of 2022 were Grundy, Schache, Weideman, Lobb, Frampton, McStay, Meek. 

There's hardly enough A grade or even B grade power forwards in the league around to have 1 at every club. The chances of picking one up in a trade are very slim.

If we want to go with hindsight we would've been better off going after Karl Amon that year instead of trading for Hunter.

Based purely on my memory of the time, we were reported to have been after Amon big time. He didn't choose us. I really wanted him.