WheeloRatings 1,190 Posted May 6, 2024 Posted May 6, 2024 Coaches Votes for Melbourne players, 2024 https://www.wheeloratings.com/afl_stats.html Votes Matches Polled Matches Max Gawn 36 7 8 Christian Petracca 25 3 8 Jake Lever 17 3 8 Steven May 15 4 7 Alex Neal-Bullen 12 2 8 Clayton Oliver 9 1 8 Bayley Fritsch 8 1 8 Kysaiah Pickett 8 2 6 Jack Viney 5 1 8 Judd McVee 5 1 8 Trent Rivers 5 2 8 Daniel Turner 4 1 2 Ed Langdon 2 1 8 Kade Chandler 2 1 8 Harrison Petty 1 1 6 Jack Billings 1 1 8 Round-by-round votes Votes 0 1 2 3 4 5 7 8 Max Gawn 36 • 7 2 8 4 3 9 3 Christian Petracca 25 • 5 10 • 10 • • • Jake Lever 17 • • • • 3 • 9 5 Steven May 15 • 7 • 3 • 2 3 Alex Neal-Bullen 12 • • 4 8 • • • • Clayton Oliver 9 • 9 • • • • • • Bayley Fritsch 8 • • 8 • • • • • Kysaiah Pickett 8 • 4 • • • 4 Jack Viney 5 5 • • • • • • • Judd McVee 5 • • • • 5 • • • Trent Rivers 5 • • • 1 • • 4 • Daniel Turner 4 4 • Ed Langdon 2 • • • • • • 2 • Kade Chandler 2 • • 2 • • • • • Harrison Petty 1 • • • • • 1 Jack Billings 1 • 1 • • • • • • 2 1 Quote
deanox 10,070 Posted May 6, 2024 Posted May 6, 2024 On the assumption that Scott has (and does) show this type of bias, it is very disappointing. Think whatever you want of how he presents publically, he is one of the most influential people on modern AFL through his tactical approach to coaching at AFL level. It tarnishes what should be a great reputation. 2 1 Quote
Gawndy the Great 9,011 Posted May 6, 2024 Posted May 6, 2024 1 hour ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said: I think Oliver returning to form on Saturday will help Petracca. He’s been struggling with 100% attention whilst Oliver’s been injured. My thinking exactly. WHen Oliver gets to his elite self, he will attract a tag, that will free up Petracca. The one dis on Trac is his defensive game. He needs a more defensive presence, which can be then used to work the tag to our advantage. He needs to improve this. 1 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted May 6, 2024 Posted May 6, 2024 2 hours ago, chook fowler said: Scott - nepotism at its most flagrant. Scott is a tool. He lost but likely gave his players 5 vote and 4 vote outcomes. Coaches votes are a joke. 1 Quote
Bang Bang Bang 5,875 Posted May 6, 2024 Posted May 6, 2024 Salty Chris Scott is one of the main reasons I enjoy beating the Cats. He thinks his players were off but also thinks his players were the best on the ground. Make up your mind Chris! He takes losses worse than some Demonlanders and it's glorious to watch. (I know, I know, we don't know for sure how he voted. But I think it's a pretty safe bet). 3 2 Quote
leave it to deever 17,617 Posted May 6, 2024 Posted May 6, 2024 They should just save time for the next one and give Max the votes now. Quote
Dee Dee 1,145 Posted May 6, 2024 Posted May 6, 2024 3 hours ago, chook fowler said: Scott - nepotism at its most flagrant. It’s called petulance! Quote
picket fence 18,184 Posted May 6, 2024 Posted May 6, 2024 4 hours ago, chook fowler said: Scott - nepotism at its most flagrant. How did Clarry fail to gain a vote 31 pos 81 % words fail me, Scott is a Muppett, Goody though, ??? WHAT?? 2 1 Quote
chook fowler 19,772 Posted May 6, 2024 Posted May 6, 2024 54 minutes ago, Dee Dee said: It’s called petulance! Wankerism 3 Quote
640MD 3,568 Posted May 6, 2024 Posted May 6, 2024 3 hours ago, chook fowler said: Max is streets ahead of any other ruckman. On sports bet and tab. He is into 35 and 41. For the Brownlow. Started out at 101. Hope he gets shorter, ….. joke hope he has a couple of suns. Quote
jnrmac 20,375 Posted May 6, 2024 Posted May 6, 2024 4 hours ago, Demonstone said: But how do you know who Scott voted for? He could have given Lever five votes for all we know. There is not a snowflakes chance in hell that Goodwin gave 5 votes for Holmes. 1 Quote
rjay 25,424 Posted May 6, 2024 Posted May 6, 2024 Scott is a great coach, was a better than average footballer, not a bad bloke in person. ...but the whining in his press conferences and disrespect to opponents is not doing him any favours. 3 Quote
Red and Bluebeard 2,101 Posted May 6, 2024 Posted May 6, 2024 3 hours ago, Dee Dee said: It’s called petulance! Or flatulance! Quote
old55 23,860 Posted May 6, 2024 Posted May 6, 2024 I thought Holmes was best on. Lever was great but O.Henry did get away for 3 goals. Holmes, Lever, May then Z.Guthrie/Petty/TMac/Oliver Quote
David-Demon 570 Posted May 6, 2024 Posted May 6, 2024 7 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said: Goody 5 - Lever 4 - Pickett 3 - Holmes 2 - Guthrie 1 - Gawn Scott 5 - Holmes 4 - Guthrie 3 - May 2 - Gawn 1 - Petty There's a few other way to get the same outcome, which sees Goody give May 1 vote instead of Gawn and a bit of shuffling from Scott. But the bottom line is how Scott didn't find room on his votes for Hawkins, Cameron, Danger and Rohan. Well, Danger did not play so don't see how he could have given him a vote.. Ahhh sorry, you are correct... We are speaking about Scott ... that makes sense ( or no sense in his mind). 1 Quote
Chook 15,069 Posted May 6, 2024 Posted May 6, 2024 I've thought Scott was a bit of a you-know-what for a while, but the Pettiness to rate his players as bog in this game rather than just suck up the fact that he lost is pretty damning. 2 Quote
640MD 3,568 Posted May 6, 2024 Posted May 6, 2024 16 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said: Goody 5 - Lever 4 - Pickett 3 - Holmes 2 - Guthrie 1 - Gawn Scott 5 - Holmes 4 - Guthrie 3 - May 2 - Gawn 1 - Petty There's a few other way to get the same outcome, which sees Goody give May 1 vote instead of Gawn and a bit of shuffling from Scott. But the bottom line is how Scott didn't find room on his votes for Hawkins, Cameron, Danger and Rohan. Who gave what to whoever is of course debatable. But your reasoning seems ok. only way for Holmes to get 8. Is to get a 5 and 3. petts got 1 vote Max and May shuffled 3 and 0. And 2 and 1 . No other way. That leaves Kossy 4 and 0 Lever 5 and 0 and Guthrie on the 4 and missing 2 What a lot of fun. it does highlight the difference in the coaches That Lever and Kossy were not considered a threat by one coach but we’re by the other. At least Guthrie and Holmes got votes from both. There is no guarantee that Scott gave his boys 4 and 5. Go Dee’s. I do hope we have planned to come out hard against the blue baggers. their last minute win last year gave me the shirts. Quiet all day then we panic and kick it to them twice in the last minute or so and they think they were champions. Right in front of me as well. Quote
Chook 15,069 Posted May 6, 2024 Posted May 6, 2024 1 hour ago, 640MD said: Who gave what to whoever is of course debatable. But your reasoning seems ok. only way for Holmes to get 8. Is to get a 5 and 3. petts got 1 vote Max and May shuffled 3 and 0. And 2 and 1 . No other way. That leaves Kossy 4 and 0 Lever 5 and 0 and Guthrie on the 4 and missing 2 What a lot of fun. it does highlight the difference in the coaches That Lever and Kossy were not considered a threat by one coach but we’re by the other. At least Guthrie and Holmes got votes from both. There is no guarantee that Scott gave his boys 4 and 5. Go Dee’s. I do hope we have planned to come out hard against the blue baggers. their last minute win last year gave me the shirts. Quiet all day then we panic and kick it to them twice in the last minute or so and they think they were champions. Right in front of me as well. It beggars belief that Lever didn't get 10 votes imo. I thought he was clearly the best and most influential player on the ground on the night. I guess one of the reasons he was so influential was that Scott didn't rate his game as worth trying to curtail. Quote
Bring-Back-Powell 15,547 Posted May 7, 2024 Posted May 7, 2024 It's unusual for players from the losing side to be the two highest vote getters but I don't disagree that Z Guthrie and Holmes were excellent for them. Quote
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