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9 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

just remember Goodwin has acknowledged that it is a problem you cannot deny that.

As mush as I hate stats with a passion we had 37 more inside 50's than the pies and lost and you don't think there is a problem with connection with the forward line?

Let me just put this here...

On 10/03/2024 at 12:26, rjay said:

 

The FD obviously know there is an issue as Goody has consistently stated.

No one here has their red and blue patches on...we all know we have a forward line issue.

Dermott is no genius and all your banging on doesn't change it.

...but it's not an easy fix otherwise it would have already been done.

 

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Do you really think Tim Lamb and co haven't been exploring the possibility of trading in a key forward since 2021? Hell, we brought BBB in that year to fill that precise need, which was a key part of

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Thanks for creating the debate. It is the way we play. The coaches haven't evolved our ways. First half, we tried the old get the ball in and hold it there (2 goals in a half). In the third,

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Far out.  the Swans scored 22 times from 65 inside 50's we scored 19 times from 51 inside 50's  we were more efficient than the Swans, in awful conditions, missing some key players from

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On 10/03/2024 at 11:13, Dwight Schrute said:

it's breathtakingly lazy from derm, although not surprising. the real story out of this game is that a swans midfield, minus Mills, Adams, and Parker smashed us at contested ball, clearances and ALL of the stats our mids pride themselves on. I don't see that happening too many times this season and would suggest the dogs mids are going to cop the response. 

Liberatore, Bontempelli and Trevor, fed by English? I don’t think so. They could well beat us on Sunday. 

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3 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

So you didn't answer my question that's OK...

Read and comprehend what I've said a number of times.

I've answered your questions.

I get annoyed at your constant misquoting, like where have I ever said we don't have a forward issue?

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Read and comprehend what I've said a number of times.

I've answered your questions.

I get annoyed at your constant misquoting, like where have I ever said we don't have a forward issue?

Ah getting testy so you still don't want to answer, here's the solution.

1. Don't reply ever.

2. Block me.

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On 10/03/2024 at 12:26, rjay said:

Dermott is no genius and all your banging on doesn't change it.

...but it's not an easy fix otherwise it would have already been done.

Yes. I take issue with the word "refuse" in the SEN headline. Just because we can't fix a problem doesn't mean we've refused to address it.

What forward has actually realistically been available for trade or at our draft picks? For all I know, we've tried.

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On 10/03/2024 at 11:12, rjay said:

If you think the FD don't know this and haven't tried to fix the problem you've got rocks in your head.

Every one can bang on about it as much as they want but what is the answer.

You can't make an in contract player just decide to come to us.

The only proven out of contract KPF available over the last few years was BBB and we got him.

Some other contracts have come up but their clubs know their value and have made it near impossible to pry them away.

 

It's difficult to understand why Hogan and that other guy went West then.

Tip..they didn't want to play for the MFC.

And then there's Grundy and likely Petty 

 

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It's difficult to understand why Hogan and that other guy went West then.

Tip..they didn't want to play for the MFC.

Not difficult at all. They were both lured home (by Fremantle) and for family reasons. "The other guy" worked out for Fremantle, Hogan didn't and still wasn't happy. He had a navicular stress fracture and mental health issues that didn't help.

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10 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Kane Cornes on Sunday Footy Show said “Max gets roughed up and doesn’t fight back and his teammates don’t help him.”

Pretty accurate IMO.

I think Max needs to show it doesn't effect him in a negative way.

If he lifts to another level then I can't see teams trying it on any longer.

Unfortunately it works and they will keep doing it.

Someone mentioned it and it may have been you 'Red' but if they try and body him he should come in with a raised knee.

A few of them around the ribs will soon make you back off.

As for around the ground there isn't a lot teammates can do, maybe the odd block here and there.

I would definitely look at targeting an opposition player for the same treatment though...

The AFL will get sick of the look soon enough and change the rules, that will suit us anyway.

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I think Max needs to show it doesn't effect him in a negative way.

If he lifts to another level then I can't see teams trying it on any longer.

Unfortunately it works and they will keep doing it.

Someone mentioned it and it may have been you 'Red' but if they try and body him he should come in with a raised knee.

A few of them around the ribs will soon make you back off.

As for around the ground there isn't a lot teammates can do, maybe the odd block here and there.

I would definitely look at targeting an opposition player for the same treatment though...

The AFL will get sick of the look soon enough and change the rules, that will suit us anyway.

I hope some of your ideas come to fruition. But unfortunately its not a simple task. Players are predominantly coming with knocks to Max from behind of from the side meaning he's blind sided. They're doing this as their running past, not bee lining so its hard for team mates to read this and help protect him. If he were a forward it would be easier. You can block for him but because its across the ground usually getting from contest to contest its hard for us to use/sacrifice a player to remonstrate or help out. I certainly hope next game this happens that we see more consequences for this action via his team mates letting the opposition know when we can without getting thrown off our game.

Max isn't really missing Grundy as much as he's certainly missing Jackson. This didn't happen nearly as much when Jackson was playing as a dynamic ruck/forward/mid.

Its going to be hit or miss but hopefully one of the two occur soon:

1. Fullarton shows enough to provide even 60% of what Jackson did as a lead up forward/ruck

2. Petty comes back in to release JVR to play more ruck as someone who could be effective around the contest and marking across the ground

Otherwise its going to be an incredibly long season for Maxy...

 

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On 10/03/2024 at 19:41, picket fence said:

I really Believe Goodwin has run his race

1 Hasn't addressed our forward entry issues

2 Got rid of Grundy

3 Have not solved our Glaring need for a Big aggressive forward

4 Has no plan B much less C

5 Is a average to poor matchday coach

6 Plays favourites even when underdone or seriously out of form

We FLUKED a premiership by any definition and since then have stagnated

I think that about covers it

We were the best team in 2021 by a long way, no flukes about it. @picket fence

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