PRESEASON TRAINING: Tuesday 27th February 2024

[stinga 586]

3 hours ago, Demonland said:

Split into lines:

Centre Bounce: Max, Viney, Trac, Langdon, Sparrow, Salem, Windsor

Backs: May Lever, McVee, Bowey, Howes, Rivers, Tomlinson

Forwards: JVR, Schache, Kozzy, ANB, Chandler, Laurie, Fritsch, Billings, K Brown

So Tomlinson gets 3rd tall spot in defense.   Surprised about Howes going on Richmond practice.  Hope he goes ok.

[Demonland 73,140]

 

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40 minutes ago, stinga said:

So Tomlinson gets 3rd tall spot in defense.   Surprised about Howes going on Richmond practice.  Hope he goes ok.

Why are you surprised? These young guys will never improve if they only get once chance and then get dropped straight away if they don’t perform. 

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4 hours ago, Demonland said:

Split into lines:

Forwards: JVR, Schache, Kozzy, ANB, Chandler, Laurie, Fritsch, Billings, K Brown

 

2 hours ago, seventyfour said:

Hmm. On paper that is not a forward line worthy of finals. Take Kozzy out for our opening game and it's bottom 6 stuff.

I would hope we're gonna see some Petracca forward early in the season like we did for periods last year, but with Angus gone and Clarry out for now, we aren't deep at centre bounce or stoppages either.

I'm trying to be positive, but there's definitely some worry for the first 5-10 rounds of the season.

Positively, there's huge room for us to improve up forward if we can get the likes of Petty and McAdam fit. I really hope Woewodin is ready to play soon too.

Carlton final last season. The 7 fwds on the left, tomorrow nights on the right.  2 upgrades in bold and Tmac/Schache cancel each other out.  Looks finals worthy to me.  and thats not adding in Petty and McAdam who play when fit.

Smith - JVR 

Fritsch - Fritsch

Kozzy - Kozzy

Spargo - Billings

TMac - Schache

ANB - ANB

Chandler - Chandler

[Demonland 73,140]

Just a reminder that posting unsubstantiated rumours on this website is strictly forbidden. 

[kev martin 10,411]

Beautiful morning for a run, minimal wind, and the day has a little crispness to it (started warming up as the session progressed).

They weren't showing much joy as they went about it (to be expected, Gus and other issues).

I was told that earlier on, Petty was having a run and a kick.

McAdam's was running harder with his program, and Melky was working well in his rehab (no strapping).

Good to see that Fullaton is ready to go, as was TMac who were in the VFL squad (no Casey players).

Starting 23 out there for a simulated captain's run. Looks like K.Brown is a forward. Originally was trialled as a mid and Tholstrup as a forward. I reckon K.Brown is seen as progressing stronger than Tholstrup and so gets the chance. Hope they rest, K.Brown in the 4th quarter tomorrow and give Tholstrup a late run. Given that the others didn't join the 23,  however I assume the game will be only the 23 that ran out today.

Goody ran most of the session. Great to him him using his whistle, and getting heavily involved by structuring/voicing what he wants. Usually he delegates more often to the others. Nothing like an up and about Head Coach. 

They were switched on in the drills, plenty of noise, and excellent skills. Really enjoyed seeing the small fwds working on and executing lovely passes into the tall fwds by Billings, Laurie and Kossie. Thought Fritsch fumbled the ball and missed some easy goals today. JVR is ready to hit the big time. Schache was one paced, though no errors. Had a discussion with a fellow supporter who reckons (I agreed), Tomlinson could play well up fwd, though unlikely. 

May clumsy and losing his feet (could have been the sun in his eyes), hoping he can get his 'mojo' on, which he had in previous sessions.

Salem looking strong, training with the mids, plenty of composure, energy, and run.  

Windsor moves so well over the ground.

Viney, on target to be the best I have seen of him.

Tracc still with some anxieties when kicking set shots for goal (appeared to have). Two out of three hit the right spot.

No contact at all. Last time I saw any tackling drills was ages ago, and the tackling during sims has been diminished/less impact. They hit each other hard prior to the Christmas break, now more about the defensive structure, run and transition. I am a bit worried as we have not done this type of drill in order to prepare to be 'hard'. Hoping, they have been working on it in the closed areas. We cannot drop our early games otherwise the media will get on the 'going backwards bus'. Tomorrow is not as important as the away trip to Sydney, but gee I hope we bring some tackling pressure. 

Go Dees

Edited February 27 by kev martin

[Tarax Club 3,959]

1 hour ago, BangBnagBang said:

 

Carlton final last season. The 7 fwds on the left, tomorrow nights on the right.  2 upgrades in bold and Tmac/Schache cancel each other out.  Looks finals worthy to me.  and thats not adding in Petty and McAdam who play when fit.

Smith - JVR 

Fritsch - Fritsch

Kozzy - Kozzy

Spargo - Billings

TMac - Schache

ANB - ANB

Chandler - Chandler

666’s pics confirm Harry Petty having an early run and kick. Jake Melksham for all those recently just back from Mars. Screams ‘play me now’ but must be on world record pace for an earlier return than normally expected. A good start to the season than the Calvary will arrive.

Edited February 27 by Tarax Club
Off the substantiated rumor mill.

[Rab D Nesbitt 8,491]

4 hours ago, Demonstone said:

Appreciate your reports, Andy.  Like most of us, I'm ready for footy again.

At this stage it looks like a close race between Verrall and Fullarton for the ignominy of having their surnames continually misspelled.  (The crown is vacant with the retirement of Bradshaw.)

Swallow and Bowie both say hello. 

[Demonstone 22,815]

James Jordan got so sick of it he upped stumps and moved interstate.

[Roost it far 8,582]

1 hour ago, kev martin said:

Beautiful morning for a run, minimal wind, and the day has a little crispness to it (started warming up as the session progressed).

They weren't showing much joy as they went about it (to be expected, Gus and other issues).

I was told that earlier on, Petty was having a run and a kick.

McAdam's was running harder with his program, and Melky was working well in his rehab (no strapping).

Good to see that Fullaton is ready to go, as was TMac who were in the VFL squad (no Casey players).

Starting 23 out there for a simulated captain's run. Looks like K.Brown is a forward. Originally was trialled as a mid and Tholstrup as a forward. I reckon K.Brown is seen as progressing stronger than Tholstrup and so gets the chance. Hope they rest, K.Brown in the 4th quarter tomorrow and give Tholstrup a late run. Given that the others didn't join the 23,  however I assume the game will be only the 23 that ran out today.

Goody ran most of the session. Great to him him using his whistle, and getting heavily involved by structuring/voicing what he wants. Usually he delegates more often to the others. Nothing like an up and about Head Coach. 

They were switched on in the drills, plenty of noise, and excellent skills. Really enjoyed seeing the small fwds working on and executing lovely passes into the tall fwds by Billings, Laurie and Kossie. Thought Fritsch fumbled the ball and missed some easy goals today. JVR is ready to hit the big time. Schache was one paced, though no errors. Had a discussion with a fellow supporter who reckons (I agreed), Tomlinson could play well up fwd, though unlikely. 

May clumsy and losing his feet (could have been the sun in his eyes), hoping he can get his 'mojo' on, which he had in previous sessions.

Salem looking strong, training with the mids, plenty of composure, energy, and run.  

Windsor moves so well over the ground.

Viney, on target to be the best I have seen of him.

Tracc still with some anxieties when kicking set shots for goal (appeared to have). Two out of three hit the right spot.

No contact at all. Last time I saw any tackling drills was ages ago, and the tackling during sims has been diminished/less impact. They hit each other hard prior to the Christmas break, now more about the defensive structure, run and transition. I am a bit worried as we have not done this type of drill in order to prepare to be 'hard'. Hoping, they have been working on it in the closed areas. We cannot drop our early games otherwise the media will get on the 'going backwards bus'. Tomorrow is not as important as the away trip to Sydney, but gee I hope we bring some tackling pressure. 

Go Dees

Happy to hear it’s all minimal contact. It’s a long long season and a war of attrition

[loges 6,767]

Off topic but anyone awaiting tickets for the Sydney game, mine have just arrived.

[kev martin 10,411]

10 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Happy to hear it’s all minimal contact. It’s a long long season and a war of attrition

Perhaps also due to reducing brain injuries as they transition to the full game experience. 

The scientists with expertise on CTE (chronic traumatic encephalopathy), mention that those medium regular impacts during training may cause more harm to the brain then previously known.

There is a push to reduce collision when training, by the medicos.

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8 minutes ago, kev martin said:

Perhaps also due to reducing brain injuries as they transition to the full game experience. 

The scientists with expertise on CTE (chronic traumatic encephalopathy), mention that those medium regular impacts during training may cause more harm to the brain then previously known.

There is a push to reduce collision when training, by the medicos.

I think we’ll see the game look to minimise collision in the next few years. The bump will go and tackles will continue to be restricted

Edited February 27 by Roost it far

[kev martin 10,411]

14 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

I think we’ll see the game look to minimise collision in the next few years. The bump will go and tackles will continue to be restricted

Some leages are using smart mouth guards https://www.hitiq.com/.

I think the NRL (rugby league) are trying them this year. Some came off the field for assessment though that felt the collision was minimal. 

Getting a good risk assessment tool for brain injury is a big step forward, HIA are bit sketchy, given the collision has to be observed. A body worn diagnostic is much more objective.

Wear them at training. 

Edited February 27 by kev martin

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21 minutes ago, kev martin said:

Some leages are using smart mouth guards https://www.hitiq.com/.

I think the NRL (rugby league) are trying them this year. Some came off the field for assessment though that felt the collision was minimal. 

Getting a good risk assessment tool for brain injury is a big step forward, HIA are bit sketchy, given the collision has to be observed. A body worn diagnostic is much more objective.

Wear them at training. 

Players have to be protected 

[bush demon 2,062]

1 hour ago, Roost it far said:

I think we’ll see the game look to minimise collision in the next few years. The bump will go and tackles will continue to be restricted

The bump will go and the brain will stay...

[Tarax Club 3,959]

3 hours ago, Tarax Club said:

A good start to the season than the Calvary will arrive.

Correction should read as Cavalry rather Calvary. Hopefully we won’t be crucified by the umpires too often this season. TC

[demosaw 1,072]

3 hours ago, Demonstone said:

James Jordan got so sick of it he upped stumps and moved interstate.

Yes we ‘crossed the Jordan’

[picket fence 17,498]

7 hours ago, stinga said:

So Tomlinson gets 3rd tall spot in defense.   Surprised about Howes going on Richmond practice.  Hope he goes ok.

Howes very very Lucky

[In Harmes Way 7,823]

41 minutes ago, Tarax Club said:

Correction should read as Cavalry rather Calvary. Hopefully we won’t be crucified by the umpires too often this season. TC

lol- my wife works at Calvary - it’s an aged care home. Not much support to our season coming from there

[Tarax Club 3,959]

3 minutes ago, In Harmes Way said:

lol- my wife works at Calvary - it’s an aged care home. Not much support to our season coming from there

Yes had auto spell totally bluffed.

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

9 hours ago, seventyfour said:

Hmm. On paper that is not a forward line worthy of finals. Take Kozzy out for our opening game and it's bottom 6 stuff.

Hardly inspiring 74.  Especially given that we know one of our achilles heels for the last two seasons has been our forward stakes.

What i would give for a genuinely dynamic power CHF and/or FF.

Hopefully Roo can step up a notch or two but without the likes of Petty, McAdam & Melk we are looking decidely thin on quality during the opening rounds.

Possibly longer, depending on the diagnosis of McAdam & Petty.  Petty may well be done for the entire season.

There is of course Kozzy & Fritta but we would need stand out years from both imv if we're to make any inroads and go deep into finals.

Even IF Petty makes it back at some point, the odds of being fiercely competitive and getting into some sort of top end form are stacked against with effectively no pre-season under his belt.

Ditto with Melk, BB and to a lessor extent T-Mac.  Although it would appear the FD were grooming Tom for a return to a defensive role.

Lord knows what for.  Makes no sense for mine after bringing Marty back and with Tomo & Turner (prior to injury) also being an option.

Im usually very positive prior to a season starting but have to say im already preparing for some substantial slippage in 2024.

Can only hope Clarry stays on track and returns as early as round 2 or 3 in fabulous nic.  If not i fear we may be in for a pretty rugged 2024 with yet another season of "many learnings" ahead.

Edited February 27 by Demon Dynasty

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3 hours ago, Roost it far said:

Players have to be protected 

And players have to learn about protecting themselves, unfortunately it's not taught at younger levels now it's head over the ball without awareness because the umps will out for me. 

[The Jackson FIX 3,210]

12 hours ago, Demonland said:

Can see Petty in Red walking back to AAMI 

Chasing AAMI. Petty’s new role in 2024

[Redleg 41,427]

2 hours ago, picket fence said:

Howes very very Lucky

The kid can play, he just didn't have a good one in the first practice game.

Two efforts going back with the flight of the ball, taking possession and giving it off beautifully showed bravery and class.

Just on that he will make it.