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2024 List and Contract Details

Lucifers Hero
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The Rookie (A) list should be dropped and just have a list of 42 blokes 

Pay them properly, they are part of the squad and some play AFL games

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    On 23/10/2024 at 16:15, red and blue forever said:

     

    so, we will probably delist smith and go into the draft with

    3 senior spots

    1 a rookie

    1 b rookie

    unless we grab another free agent as our 3rd pick is around 83 (round 5)

    or we may split pick 9...

     

     

    according to SEN article yesterday, Smith has already been delisted.

     

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    can someone confirm, we have the following available:

    - senior list spots - 3 (assuming we stop at 36) - 5 if we go to 38

    - Rookie A - 2 - (assuming 36 senior and AMW now Rookie A) - 0 (if we go to 38 senior)

    - Rookie B - 2 

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    On 16/10/2024 at 18:59, Demonsone said:

    Great trade period watching other clubs secure ready made talent ! Park pic 9 aside not sure Sharp & Campbell re having huge impacts! Zero fwds  unbelievable! 

    Sharp is a running half forward on ball half forward flanker with extreme pace and very good tank. Ie a forward Happy ??! Demonsome? 
    And we have Picks 5 and 9 to use at draft Either a forward ( Armstrong or Tauru) might be selected and a highly regarded mid from a selection of approx. 13 mids from pick 1 to 15. ( some nga or father/ son selections which won’t affect clubs as they will be gained by having the required points available. 

    We may use pick 83 to get a diamond in the rough. 

    You will recall Derk W from GWS was approached and not let go. A 195 cm for / back / ruck. 

    Also our Key forwards are below 24 mostly 22 to 18 very young and are just gaining confidence and only Fritta and Kossie are steady goal kickers with Trac and Chandler adding to the scoreboard regularly. 

    Our best years are ahead starting now in 2025.

    BTW who would you have got via this trade for our list in 2025?? 

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    4 hours ago, BScotti said:

    according to SEN article yesterday, Smith has already been delisted.

     

    Smith not confirmed by the club yet, but is all but guaranteed, as is Moniz Wakefiled upgraded to rookie 'A'

    Here how the list looks with those changes.

    I have included the draft picks in the list, but have NOT added their number to List Size totals

    image.png.665587e9dc23ee6a4ceec6c8b7fd6567.png

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    On 29/10/2024 at 13:25, BScotti said:

    can someone confirm, we have the following available:

    - senior list spots - 3 (assuming we stop at 36) - 5 if we go to 38

    - Rookie A - 2 - (assuming 36 senior and AMW now Rookie A) - 0 (if we go to 38 senior)

    - Rookie B - 2 

    The rules changed to allow players to stay Rookies for 5 years if they have played less than 10 career games.

    It makes no difference to AMW to remain a B-Rookie but it gives the club the chance to recruit an A-Rookie where the recruitment rules are less strict than for B-Rookies.

    AMW remains a B-Rookie which leaves 1 A-Rookie and 1 B-Rookie spot.

     

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    On 29/10/2024 at 17:22, red and blue forever said:

    Smith not confirmed by the club yet, but is all but guaranteed, as is Moniz Wakefiled upgraded to rookie 'A'

    Here how the list looks with those changes.

    I have included the draft picks in the list, but have NOT added their number to List Size totals

    image.png.665587e9dc23ee6a4ceec6c8b7fd6567.png

    Love your work R&B.   Any chance you could put a spot in for all the assistant coaches and roles (if known).   There's been a couple of changes with maybe one more to come.

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    1 hour ago, stinga said:

    Love your work R&B.   Any chance you could put a spot in for all the assistant coaches and roles (if known).   There's been a couple of changes with maybe one more to come.

    Great idea!, I wanted to do this myself, but have struggled finding contract lengths for the assistants...

    If anyone know this, I will happily put them in the list :)

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    Ruthless? With Tassie coming in, we have already seen clubs moving on older players and others shown as being not quite up to AFL lists.  Some have been brutal.

    Whilst a lot of water to go under the bridge, “on current age and form/performance”, there is potentially a larger turnover ahead.  I do think some guys were lucky to hold onto a list spot.  Maybe it was to keep some stability and also that the Dees were not well placed to attract players.  

    Looking ahead … to the end of season 2025…potential changes 

    retirement… McDonald, Melksham 

    sitting on the edge are …potentially delistings 🔪 would include some of (or all of) … Spargo, Hore, Billings, Laurie, Fullarton, McAdam, Verrall, Sestan, Adams, Kentfield

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    On 31/10/2024 at 16:28, red and blue forever said:

    Great idea!, I wanted to do this myself, but have struggled finding contract lengths for the assistants...

    If anyone know this, I will happily put them in the list :)

    Maybe an email to the club for the attention of Richardson would bring results knowing that most supporters use the spreadsheet as an overall guide

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    What's the situation with Noah Yze?  Is he set to be drafted this year?  Because I can't see his name mentioned anywhere and we only have two draft picks, and no spots in rookie A.  

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    42 minutes ago, Katrina Dee Fan said:

    What's the situation with Noah Yze?  Is he set to be drafted this year?  Because I can't see his name mentioned anywhere and we only have two draft picks, and no spots in rookie A.  

    We haven't nominated him as a father son as of yet.

    I highly doubt we will select him this year because he's form hasn't been up to the level that is worth being drafted.

    My inkling is he may suit up for Oakleigh Chargers next year as an overage player.

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    3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    We haven't nominated him as a father son as of yet.

    I highly doubt we will select him this year because he's form hasn't been up to the level that is worth being drafted.

    My inkling is he may suit up for Oakleigh Chargers next year as an overage player.

    Cheers for the update. I had a feeling this might be the case.

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    8 hours ago, Katrina Dee Fan said:

    What's the situation with Noah Yze?  Is he set to be drafted this year?  Because I can't see his name mentioned anywhere and we only have two draft picks, and no spots in rookie A.  

    We have a third pick ND83 which will come in to about 55-65 after academy and f/s bid matches. JT rarely uses picks that late but there may be a smokey he has his eye on.

    We also have one A rookie spot. 

    No idea what that means for Yze jnr.

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    On 31/10/2024 at 07:17, Lucifers Hero said:

    The rules changed to allow players to stay Rookies for 5 years if they have played less than 10 career games.

    It makes no difference to AMW to remain a B-Rookie but it gives the club the chance to recruit an A-Rookie where the recruitment rules are less strict than for B-Rookies.

    AMW remains a B-Rookie which leaves 1 A-Rookie and 1 B-Rookie spot.

     

    The AMW situation is confusing. Is it the case we would push him to Rookie A so that we can pre-list both Riak Andrew and Ricky Mentha as Rookie Bs - which assumes they do not get bids in the national draft... 

    If JT doesn't have a smokey in mind for our late pick, AMW or Hore could go straight to the senior list? 

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    10 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

    Judd McVee and Jake Melksham will be promoted to the senior list in 2025.
     

    Well, that frees up two rookie spots, potentially one for Noah.

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    2 hours ago, Katrina Dee Fan said:

    Well, that frees up two rookie spots, potentially one for Noah.

    i dont think it does coz i think AMW moves onto the A list wgucg means we have the max of 6. coz we had 7 last year when kentfield repalced brayshaw

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    2 minutes ago, Turner said:

    i dont think it does coz i think AMW moves onto the A list wgucg means we have the max of 6. coz we had 7 last year when kentfield repalced brayshaw

    Mid season draftees are rookies. They don’t go on the senior list.

     

    Mentha and Riak Andrew were nominated as NGA’s for us so both can go straight on to the Cat B rookie list if not selected before hand. We didn’t even nominate Yze as a F/S. 

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    Mid season draftees are rookies. They don’t go on the senior list. (Kentfield)

     

    Mentha and Riak Andrew were nominated as NGA’s for us so both can go straight on to the Cat B rookie list if not selected before hand. We didn’t even nominate Yze as a F/S. 

     

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    Dees have room for 3 senior list additions.  I think Dees will use 5,9 and potentially add 5th round draft pick OR save for a train on player to be added under the SSP. 

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    On 13/11/2024 at 11:45, 12345_54321 said:

    Mid season draftees are rookies. They don’t go on the senior list.

     

    Mentha and Riak Andrew were nominated as NGA’s for us so both can go straight on to the Cat B rookie list if not selected before hand. We didn’t even nominate Yze as a F/S. 

    Where did you see this. I haven't seen it anywhere

     

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    1 hour ago, Its Time for Another said:

    Where did you see this. I haven't seen it anywhere

     

    Me either. Lol.!!

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    Cal Twomey posted a table on either twitter or instagram which had all the clubs nominations. Someone posted it in one of the threads.

    I don't have either app so can't help track down the original source sorry.

    Info is correct though.

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    2 hours ago, Its Time for Another said:

    Where did you see this. I haven't seen it anywhere

     

     

    47 minutes ago, DeeZone said:

    Me either. Lol.!!

     

    6 minutes ago, Nascent said:

    Cal Twomey posted a table on either twitter or instagram which had all the clubs nominations. Someone posted it in one of the threads.

    I don't have either app so can't help track down the original source sorry.

    Info is correct though.

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