"Ihle (Pies) says Maynard's hands go to the right, but his centre of mass does not move to the right. He says at this point a collision is "not inevitable" and "not even likely". It is Brayshaw's movement inward that changes this, he says."

That's going a bit far.

No collision, WOW. From the enforcer,  LOL.

If he followed the ball, and Gus falling a bit right, he wouldn't have done his job (to hurt).

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100% of reactions are against the Pies BS 😁:

4 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

Chook, it's funny how cricketers only have less than half a second when facing fast bowling, to play or let it go, to go forward or to go back, to defend or to attack the ball. There are 3 decisions at least to be made in that time and then to execute that decision all in less than half a second. Maynard had about the same time to make one decision - do I evade him or do i hurt him? And he doesn't have time to do that? What BS.

I was actually going to say that recently. We praise cricketers for this skill, having someone running down and bowling a million miles an hour with a split second to decide what you're going to do. It can be done.

Where was the arse6ole expert?

Ihle (Pies) says there are .56 seconds between the moment of jumping and the moment of collision.

Melbourne kicked 3 goals in that time in the '21 GF

Bang, bang, BANG!

 

 

Decision about to be handed down. Maynard has been cleared although Gus has been given 3 weeks for recklessly hitting Maynard's shoulder, especially when he already has shoulder issues, it's quite lucky he was able to play on. 

Watch the side angle again.
 

I’d love the biomechanics expert to explain how Maynard is tucked up with his shoulder leaning in as the ball is kicked, but Brayshaw has time to pull both arms in front and try and push off.

If there’s not enough time for one, there seems to be for another. This is hot garbage.

4 minutes ago, layzie said:

I was actually going to say that recently. We praise cricketers for this skill, having someone running down and bowling a million miles an hour with a split second to decide what you're going to do. It can be done.

So yep, roughly .25 of a second to not only react but play the shot from a fast bowler.

Answer to How fast does the batsman need to react to a 150kph ball? by Sajit Nair https://www.quora.com/How-fast-does-the-batsman-need-to-react-to-a-150kph-ball/answer/Sajit-Nair-10?ch=15&oid=59324104&share=b8005139&srid=hVtjez&target_type=answer

Why get the biomechanics bloke in if you’re effing lawyer is trying to justify Maynard’s body movement?

Fmd. What a [censored] show. 

Ihle (Pies) has requested more straws. All of their current supply has been clutched.

So it's all Gus' fault now? Think Maynard owes even more flowers and wine after the tribunal. 

12 minutes ago, Chook said:

Objection: speculation.

👍

True, mate. If the lawyers on here are out of the loop, we can just speculate.

Can Melbourne or the AFL appeal if he’s cleared?

1 minute ago, OhMyDees said:

Can Melbourne or the AFL appeal if he’s cleared?

AFL can - not MFC. 

think gleeson has pretty much said hes getting off

Sure. First and foremost being "jump off the ground with some sense of awareness and control of their body and surroundings." I learned to do that when I was 5.

2 minutes ago, Tracca said:

think gleeson has pretty much said hes getting off

Sadly yes

I’m not wasting anymore time on this cluster-[censored]. I should’ve known better than to cling on to a little sliver of hope that justice would prevail. So disappointed and angry… but not surprised. 

Just now, Satan said:

Sadly yes

it is what it is, there was no intention to bump prior to jumping off the ground, im ok with it apart from the fact brayshaw was knocked out, whatever happens we move on and make sure we bury them in the GF

learned deliberations about patent lying.  What a farce.  The guy is a thug, said he'd do it in the week before, and they end up blaming Gus.  Splitting the second and pontificating clearly drivel assertions.  And oh, retire to deliberate! 

This is just pretence.  A bit of AFL theatre, for ratings.  Nothing to do with sport, or proper skills, or duty of care, or any other valuable possibility..  

A lifetime of caring; and MFC has worked and worked to build culture, to develop players, all this - and all our believing - and it doesn't mean jacksheeyit when the Grand Final build-up threatens to displease the biggest stakeholders.  What utter trash this all is.  Is anything going to matter, from here?  The price of entry is pretending the Emperor looks fine.

47 minutes ago, sue said:

Hang on half a sec.  400 millisecs is nearly 1/2 a sec.  Any decent footballer can do things in that time.

Agree Sue, that is ample time. A cricket fast bowler can bowl at 150km/hr that's more than 40m/sec. The cricket pitch is half that long so the ball travels the distance in less than half a second and expert athletes are able to play the ball. Even most tail enders can.

1 minute ago, Palace Dees said:

Ihle (Pies) has requested more straws. All of their current supply has been clutched.

Sorry, PD, but they have set up the Appeal really well. I keep asking people on here to read the Toby Bedford decision. Nobody on here has taken me up on that. Now I get criticism for repeating myself. Why would I not when nobody listens? Read the Bedford decision FCS. Football action, fractions of seconds, live footage. Maynard will be exonerated on Appeal.    

I'm confused, did afl close their final submissions in less than 5minutes and Pies going for an hour? Or do afl still have a rebuttal?

"Gleeson: The duty of care is informed by what is reasonable, not the expectation of the remarkable. Maynard won't be found careless if we find he simply failed to do the remarkable."

Wow, if he acted reasonable before he could do the remarkable, then he wouldn't be a concussion causing projectile. 

Duty of care before he launched. 

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3 minutes ago, Tracca said:

it is what it is, there was no intention to bump prior to jumping off the ground, im ok with it apart from the fact brayshaw was knocked out, whatever happens we move on and make sure we bury them in the GF

If so I'd argue we smother at every turn but it's good we don't roll that way.