Kev 10,926 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) On 12/09/2023 at 08:01, Diamond_Jim said: The Football Act.... Ihle (Collingwood): Maynard was entitled to come forward off his player, he was entitled to jump when he saw Brayshaw about to kick. Expand No, not jump at Gus, jump at the ball. If he had done that, then he would have gone across the path and lower of Gus. There was an intention to collide as he braced, and the biomech expect, said his brace must be premeditated. Edited September 12, 2023 by kev martin 2
Ollie fan 3,672 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) On 12/09/2023 at 07:56, Green Demon said: Just watched CH10 news, some biomechanics expert said Once he's airborne, he's essentially a projectile. He's like a frisbee with arms and legs. So, how did he become airborne? He jumped. It is completely his own actions that caused this event. It was a dangerous act that cannot be allowed to go unpunished. I just wish all the Pies supporters and media people would admit that you don't judge the event from the moment before impact, you judge it from the moment that Maynard decided to jump forward towards a defenseless player. Expand That is exactly correct. 1000% agree. Why aren't the AFL arguing on that basis? They seem to be letting Collingwood define the argument. Edited September 12, 2023 by Ollie fan 4
Green Demon 822 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 On 12/09/2023 at 08:00, kev martin said: Defenseless player is it. Acts of footy such as marking and spoiling, the players are aware of contact. When kicking the ball, your body is open, not much you can do to mitigate the impact. The entire collision and its outcome is determined by the one without the ball. Basic umpiring, protect the player with the ball, nether alone the Tribunal, as it must stamp this out. Expand Not sure I get your point. Gus was the defenseless player. Maynard decided to jump towards him.
Chook 15,069 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 On 12/09/2023 at 08:04, rollinson 65 said: At the risk of being yelled at again, I really need you guys to be ready for disappointment. Maynard will be exonerated on Appeal. This is my best legal analysis and not shared by a second lawyer on this thread, so you should all hope I am wrong. Expand Objection: speculation. 1 4
Satan 2,921 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Channel 7 suggesting pies lawyers will seek an injunction if maynard gets suspended 2
Lord Travis 10,819 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Looks like he’s gonna get off here. That was a weak submission from the AFL. Pies defense picking it apart now. These tribunal hearings are some seriously braindead representations. How are these people paid professionals? I feel like a first year uni student can mount a better case than these clowns! 5
Queanbeyan Demon 7,024 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 On 12/09/2023 at 07:55, WalkingCivilWar said: Ihle (Collingwood): When you look at how far forward the jump was ... it's no more than one or two metres. It's one stride length. BIG difference between one and two metres, no? Expand Sure is @WalkingCivilWar. Every inch counts. 1
Tracca 862 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 On 12/09/2023 at 08:08, Lord Travis said: Looks like he’s gonna get off here. That was a weak submission from the AFL. Pies defense picking it apart now. These tribunal hearings are some seriously braindead representations. How are these people paid professionals? I feel like a first year uni student can mount a better case than these clowns! Expand dont be too pessamistic yet. afl get to come back after this :)
Kev 10,926 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 On 12/09/2023 at 08:06, Green Demon said: Not sure I get your point. Gus was the defenseless player. Maynard decided to jump towards him. Expand Of course, Gus is the defenseless one, and ball carrier. Number 4 was the instigator of the collision. I've always heard the umpires saying they protect the person with the ball, time for the Tribunal do do that. 2
Jaded No More 68,976 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 On 12/09/2023 at 08:08, Lord Travis said: Looks like he’s gonna get off here. That was a weak submission from the AFL. Pies defense picking it apart now. These tribunal hearings are some seriously braindead representations. How are these people paid professionals? I feel like a first year uni student can mount a better case than these clowns! Expand It goes how the AFL wants it to go. Maybe it’s a weak case because they know he will appeal and get off. Perhaps they don’t want to deal with the fall out of suspending a Pies player ahead of finals. In the end the AFL always gets what it wants. Until it gets dragged into a real court and the AFL loses billions of dollars. 5
Jibroni 5,057 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) It is not careless to protect yourself from a hit, it is careless to hurl yourself at a player or a contest in the way Maynard did. That wasn’t really argued which I dont understand. Edited September 12, 2023 by Jibroni 4 1
The heart beats true 18,201 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 On 12/09/2023 at 08:04, rollinson 65 said: At the risk of being yelled at again, I really need you guys to be ready for disappointment. Expand I’ve been reading your posts for days. I know all about disappointment. 2 4
Nascent 9,345 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 On 12/09/2023 at 08:10, Tracca said: dont be too pessamistic yet. afl get to come back after this :) Expand They've already closed their submissions no?
Floody100 193 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 I understand fans of certain clubs can let their passion get in the way of a little empathy but caring more about whether their player gets suspended or not over the welfare of an opposition’s players health whose career might be potentially over is just sad & a tad pathetic if you ask me. We all love our footy but some fans need to remember it’s just a game at the end of the day. 1 2
Kev 10,926 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) "Ihle (Collingwood): He's jumped off two legs. That's allowed him to jump higher and it slowed his forward momentum without completely removing it." Why does he want to jump higher, he needed to go right, if he was playing the ball. Higher, just has him coming down on Gus with more force. Edited September 12, 2023 by kev martin 2
Brownie 6,086 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 On 12/09/2023 at 08:01, WalkingCivilWar said: This is EXACTLY what I’ve been worried about. I keep getting told this is different to Cripps’ outcome so it won’t end the same way. Well, here we are. Expand Yep, the premeditation here is all from the AFL. We'll go hard, suspend for 3 weeks but here's a get out of jail card under the table for the appeal. Because AFL ❤️ Collingwood. Because AFL ❤️ controversy Because AFL ❤️ their broadcast partners and will protect them at all costs. This league is corrupt and a waste of time. Do not rejoice at the suspension. It will get overturned. 1 1 1
At Least I Saw a Flag 5,353 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) On 12/09/2023 at 08:07, Satan said: Channel 7 suggesting pies lawyers will seek an injunction if maynard gets suspended Expand They'll go through the appeals process first. If Maynard is suspended, and the appeal is dismissed, they will definitely go to court. Zero doubt about that. Edited September 12, 2023 by Winners at last 1
sue 9,277 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) On 12/09/2023 at 08:04, rollinson 65 said: At the risk of being yelled at again, I really need you guys to be ready for disappointment. Maynard will be exonerated on Appeal. This is my best legal analysis and not shared by a second lawyer on this thread, so you should all hope I am wrong. Expand Very considerate of you to get us ready for disappointment. Perhaps you haven't noticed that most people here think is he guilty but will get off one way or another. We are well and truly prepared for disappointment without your condescension. Edited September 12, 2023 by sue 3
Guest Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 On 12/09/2023 at 08:09, Queanbeyan Demon said: Sure is @WalkingCivilWar. Every inch counts. Expand I wanna meet that person whose stride is two metres in length. Must be quite the man-mountain.
OhMyDees 1,834 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 He’ll get 2 weeks. Appeal and get 1 to play in GF. You know Collingwood will appeal to clear him with everything they’ve got. 3
Tracca 862 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Ihle (Pies) says Maynard's hands go to the right, but his centre of mass does not move to the right. He says at this point a collision is "not inevitable" and "not even likely". It is Brayshaw's movement inward that changes this, he says. this is bs maynard literally jumps to the right 5 1 1
Tracca 862 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 On 12/09/2023 at 08:14, Tracca said: Ihle (Pies) says Maynard's hands go to the right, but his centre of mass does not move to the right. He says at this point a collision is "not inevitable" and "not even likely". It is Brayshaw's movement inward that changes this, he says. this is bs maynard literally jumps to the right Expand watching again over and over he literally take a step towards gus
OhMyDees 1,834 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Gotta love the victim blaming by Collingwood, really says a lot about the Filth. 1 1
rollinson 65 181 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 On 12/09/2023 at 08:06, Ollie fan said: That is exactly correct. 1000% agree. Why aren't the AFL arguing on that basis? They seem to be letting Collingwood define the argument. Expand Yes, funny about that. Politics ?? And I ask again, why did the media shy away from asking the CEO why the MRO's decision on the day was overruled? What is going on the the corridors of power closed always to the unwashed?
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