PREGAME: SF vs Carlton

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,491]

8 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

If no Grundy, which is expected, only ruck backup option is Smith. Will have to go with De Koning. 
God speed. 

I’ll back in Joel Smith’s 1 career hitout from 41 games.

[The Jackson FIX 2,300]

27 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Agree with the first part, however Curnow will absolutely destroy Tomlinson with his athleticism. Surely plays on a resting ruck like Pittonet or TDK.

Well, he’s playing so I’m not sure who is on Curnow if it isn’t Tommo

[Roost it far 6,264]

Just now, The Jackson FIX said:

Well, he’s playing so I’m not sure who is on Curnow if it isn’t Tommo

May, has done well the last 2 outings and is our best big defender

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Why the hell would we not bring Grundy in and drop Hibberd?

Team selection is by far the coaching department’s biggest weakness.

Turner in as a forward in a final because of one scratch match?

Bloody hell.

[The Jackson FIX 2,300]

1 minute ago, Roost it far said:

May, has done well the last 2 outings and is our best big defender

Maybe it’ll start that way and the back up is swing Tommo onto him 

[Roost it far 6,264]

4 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Maybe it’ll start that way and the back up is swing Tommo onto him 

No, Tomlinson will play on the resting ruck until the game is on hand then be subbed out for a mid who’ll help pile on the last quarter goals. May meanwhile will keep Curnow to a couple.

Edited September 13, 2023 by Roost it far

[The Jackson FIX 2,300]

3 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

No, Tomlinson will play on the resting ruck until the game is on hand then be subbed out for a mid who’ll help pile on the last quarter goals. May meanwhile will keep Curnow to a couple.

That’s a better way to put it. Maybe one for Charlie though 

[Ollie fan 2,287]

4 hours ago, Floody100 said:

My reaction to all the people that want Jordon back in the team.

Agree

[Bates Mate 4,012]

3 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Marlon Pickett debuted in a Grand FInal

One in 100 year event. After being given the best on ground award in the VFL grand final the week before as a mature aged recruit walking into an already premiership team.

AMW playing a debut game as a sub after just showing flashes in Casey is just nonsensical 

[Billy 2,134]

51 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Why the hell would we not bring Grundy in and drop Hibberd?

Team selection is by far the coaching department’s biggest weakness.

Turner in as a forward in a final because of one scratch match?

Bloody hell.

I’ll give it away if Hibbo gets dropped for Tomlinson 

And what was the point of getting Grundy if you’re not going to play him if Max has an injury to help him out??

[Simon Port 157]

I've seen in a few different outlets that Disco might be a smokey for us to play forward? What are our thoughts on that?

I think Tomlinson coming back in is a great move.

[Pennant St Dee 11,604]

2 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Slot those two in ( at least) .. be a record dynasty of flags..   be untouchable 

Ingerson as 3rd tall defender, Yze, Wiz in F50 and TJ’s delivery just wow 

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,043]

2 hours ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Ins:  Tomo, Turner, JJ, Spargo

Outs:  Salem (omitted), JVR (susp), Gus (conc) & Chandler (omitted)

Tomo comes in for Salem to cover their resting ruck.

Allows Lever to play in his preferred role.

May to Curnow no brainer.

Hibbo to stay in playing a defensive role on Owies.

Turner for JVR

JJ for Gus.  Hard tag on Crippa.  Don't care if he only gets 5 possies.  Keep Crippa to 16 or so and a goal (max) and we should win.

Spargo for Chandler

Sub:  AMW or Woe

So Laurie gets a reprieve?

Surely not?

[Demon Dynasty 16,116]

2 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

So Laurie gets a reprieve?

Surely not?

Replaced as sub with either Woe or AMW.  Smith is the option here but then someone would need to replace him in the 22.

[Clayton spirit 189]

Tmac actually rucked alright in the forward line I thought. How he fares in centre bounces is more questionable 

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,043]

Will Thommo coming in mean Gawny can take a few F50 stoppages?

We need to create nick a couple of goals from this source, providing some hitting areas for the likes of Petracca, Kozzie, Spargo and ANB to work some magic.

[Demon Dynasty 16,116]

6 hours ago, Floody100 said:

My reaction to all the people that want Jordon back in the team.

 

5 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Mostly agree with this, Jordon has taken a step back this year as a player.

Curious though as to who replaces the vital midfield minutes that Brayshaw would have provided?

Both have points but the cupboard is bare as BBP has hinted.

Over to you floody

[Great Northern Summer 689]

Couple of things:

- We've played a hell of a lot of games in the wet this season. The Gawn/Grundy combo has not worked at all in the wet. It looked promising in the pre-season and early part of the season. Given it's expected to be warm and dry on Friday night, perhaps there is hope after all and it's worth another crack.

- Whilst we are all a little (ok, very) down about our loss last week, taking a glass half full approach, it might end up working out. GWS are a mile ahead of the comp on key stats over the past 12 week and have won at 11 different venues this season, which is some sort of record. I totally expect them to knock over a depleted Port on Saturday night to set up an encounter against Collingwood the following week. All else being equal, I would tip them to beat Collingwood too. This means if we can get through this Friday night, Collingwood could be out of the finals before us. Playing GWS in the GF compared to the PF would be a massive advantage to us, as this would mean GWS would have been on the road for four consecutive weeks compared to three, which might be the difference between them being at the top of their game and being slightly off it.

[jnrmac 19,393]

1 hour ago, Bates Mate said:

One in 100 year event. After being given the best on ground award in the VFL grand final the week before as a mature aged recruit walking into an already premiership team.

AMW playing a debut game as a sub after just showing flashes in Casey is just nonsensical 

One in a hundred years for a finals debut? I don't thinks so.

Don Cordner debuted in a semi final, Doug Heywood in a Prelim, Charlie Spargo's Dad debuted in a final, so did Dermott Brereton and Michael Cooke.....

 

Just sayin....

 

[DubDee 21,505]

2 hours ago, bandicoot said:

So after playing 1 afl game in almost 4 months you want tmac to take up rucking duties agains tdk? This is a joke?

can i just say your reasoned and articulate response is a breath of fresh air. you have not only clearly stated why Grundy should start but haven’t been tempted to undermine my stance. 

i stand in awe of your greater intellect 

[jnrmac 19,393]

2 hours ago, binman said:

Of course we don't plan to be down at quarter time but my feeling is that is how we have approached our last 5 or six games. Let the oppo take their shot, work out what they doing, respond and run over them with superior fitness.

But i don't think we can risk another slow start this week. And i don't think they will. Go hard and fast early and get a break on them. And take the crowd out of the equation. 

I don't think we can afford to do that for 4 finals in a row...

[Binmans PA 26,587]

2 hours ago, binman said:

Of course we don't plan to be down at quarter time but my feeling is that is how we have approached our last 5 or six games. Let the oppo take their shot, work out what they doing, respond and run over them with superior fitness.

But i don't think we can risk another slow start this week. And i don't think they will. Go hard and fast early and get a break on them. And take the crowd out of the equation. 

You may be right, but you can't do this in finals.

[DubDee 21,505]

2 hours ago, bandicoot said:

Absurd to expect tmac to ruck 20% of the game whilst also trying to play up forward. Will be the worst selection decision in goodwins entire tenure 

JVR has been doing this as a first year kid. T Mac has done it and can again

[DubDee 21,505]

2 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Why the hell would we not bring Grundy in and drop Hibberd?

Team selection is by far the coaching department’s biggest weakness.

Turner in as a forward in a final because of one scratch match?

Bloody hell.

i’ve yet to hear anyone state a decent case for bringing Grundy in

aside from the 20% resting ruck duties what does he offer? zero fwd

Tommo in for JVR. Smith fwd 

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,414]

55 minutes ago, Great Northern Summer said:

Couple of things:

- We've played a hell of a lot of games in the wet this season. The Gawn/Grundy combo has not worked at all in the wet. It looked promising in the pre-season and early part of the season. Given it's expected to be warm and dry on Friday night, perhaps there is hope after all and it's worth another crack.

- Whilst we are all a little (ok, very) down about our loss last week, taking a glass half full approach, it might end up working out. GWS are a mile ahead of the comp on key stats over the past 12 week and have won at 11 different venues this season, which is some sort of record. I totally expect them to knock over a depleted Port on Saturday night to set up an encounter against Collingwood the following week. All else being equal, I would tip them to beat Collingwood too. This means if we can get through this Friday night, Collingwood could be out of the finals before us. Playing GWS in the GF compared to the PF would be a massive advantage to us, as this would mean GWS would have been on the road for four consecutive weeks compared to three, which might be the difference between them being at the top of their game and being slightly off it.

Love both these takes. Friday's game is ours to win, we need to bring our strengths...

Gawn/Grundy, back it to win (JvR out)

Tommo in back, he gives the Lever/May combo its edge (Hibbo out, undersized)

JJ for Brayshaw, slim pickings otherwise

Oliver/Petracca on ball, so Fwd option needs to be something else

Smithy is the super-sub, covers many bases  (Laurie out)

A Fwd gap remains //  Dedicated fwd in...  (BBB or Schache) or small option Woey/Spargo

I think we're really strong with

In  -  Grundy, Tommo, JJ, Woey

Out  -  JvR, Hibbo, Brayshaw,  Laurie, Smith (to sub)

Edited September 13, 2023 by Graeme Yeats' Mullet