POSTGAME: Rd 18 vs Brisbane

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

11 minutes ago, layzie said:

SUCK IT UP BUTTERCUP

... "Whole lotta Rosie"

[Go Lordie 297]

2 hours ago, demon3165 said:

Still think we are a bit one paced in the midfield would like to McVee go in there for the outside run.

One paced? We had Kozzie in there for some of the bounces....

[Go Lordie 297]

36 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Let’s hope he is the Bowey lucky charm version of 2023

I know I am being optimistic, but Wowey is now two from two, just like Bowey in 2021. He couldn't go unbeaten for 17 games, could he?

[Macca 16,972]

10 minutes ago, layzie said:

Best impossible comeback/great escape wins I've seen live:

5. V Geelong Rd 6 2006

4. V Freo Rd 7 2008

3. V Bulldogs Rd 21 2005

2.V Carlton QF 2000

1. V Brisbane Rd 18 2023

Yes the 2000 QF was a beauty!

I was there and ended up hugging my Carlton mate when we won (the things we do)

Just checked AFL tables and we were down and out 21 points down going into the last quarter ... 7 goals later and we're in the PF

So, comparing the two, the Carlton win was bigger with what was riding on the result

But equally as euphoric?  The Blues win was well ahead on terms of how I reacted

The collective, layz?  Might be different

Edited July 14, 2023 by Macca

[Dr. Gonzo 24,221]

1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

How do we get it to the corridor?

1. Force turnovers in the corridor?
Unlikely, given teams don't use it much against us when our pressure is on, and when they do we aren't exactly known as a quick inside midfield brigade likely to cut teams down in the middle.

2. Run it to the corridor?
We absolutely need to do this more, but we aren't exactly full of half backs with blistering pace or midfielders with creativity. Tracc and Clarry are masters of getting the ball on the rebound and running the corridor, but without them in the midfield it's less likely to happen.

3. Kick it to the corridor.
I'd like to see this more, but the reality is we don't have a lead up CHF so it's generally reliant on overloading the corridor with sneaky little ANB leads or some such thing. Tracc likes a short little lead in to the corridor but it's really hard kick to master.

The big thing we need to do to either run or kick in to the corridor is for our backs to stop having their first reaction being handballing or kicking as wide and skinny side as possible. I'm happy to risk a few chase down tackles to encourage our defenders to run and link towards the space. 'In one side, out the other' is a very basic rule for defensive rebounding and would serve us so much better than our usual habit of immediately seeking the boundary in the backline.

If we're going to keep Bowey, Salem and McVee in defence then we should be relying on their kicking skills to pick those kicks off into the corridor. Otherwise shift one of them forward of the ball and give us some better looks going inside 50.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,221]

49 minutes ago, Macca said:

I've been standing in the outer or AFL members all my life and we've never had that many supporters in that area

A large majority of our supporters have always congregated in the MCC area and the Northern Stand

It's just the way it is.  For me, I don't care that I'm outnumbered in the Southern Stand as it's my choice to be there

10 years at the top and you'll see change

I hate it. When I was a kid we would sit in the old red seats, MFC members reserve in the Olympic stand.

I don't mind sitting with opposition supporters sometimes but I hate being outnumbered every single week especially when we're playing interstate teams. I went for an MFC membership about 10 years ago but the seats we got were in the southern stand next to AFL members. I might have to try my luck at MFC reserve in northern stand next year or sitting up on level 4 there occasionally.

[Macca 16,972]

Rivers dash through the middle late taking on 3 tacklers was breathtakingly good

More of that please!

Edited July 14, 2023 by Macca

[Macca 16,972]

1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I hate it. When I was a kid we would sit in the old red seats, MFC members reserve in the Olympic stand.

I don't mind sitting with opposition supporters sometimes but I hate being outnumbered every single week especially when we're playing interstate teams. I went for an MFC membership about 10 years ago but the seats we got were in the southern stand next to AFL members. I might have to try my luck at MFC reserve in northern stand next year or sitting up on level 4 there occasionally.

I've got access to the MCC as family are members but I'm an AFL member so the southern stand it is

I tend to analyse as I'm watching and am not very emotional so I tend to block out all the noise ... except for the filth supporters, they never fail to get under my skin.  Can't stand 'em

Tonight I was shocked when we won, it was a bit numbing to be honest

Initially I thought we'd pinched the game but we did win the first quarter comprehensively (as we did the last quarter) so the game was split that way ... separated by 1 point at the finish

I'm reasonably sure that many of the Lions supporters would be wondering how they could have possibly lost the game ... just imagine if it was a GF? (not on the receiving end thanks)

[Macca 16,972]

38 minutes ago, GOLORDIE said:

One paced? We had Kozzie in there for some of the bounces....

And he did a couple of nice things too whilst at the clearances ... a good move to get him into the play

I watched him a bit tonight and I thought he did very well as compared to some previous games

11 possessions, 5 tackles and 3 goals is an excellent return yet I felt the ball eluded him again tonight (but not as much)

Truth is we'd take that sort of return numbers-wise, especially in a big final

[M_9 2,082]

50 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

… I might have to try my luck at MFC reserve in northern stand next year or sitting up on level 4 there occasionally.

Get yourself a Redlegs, Platinum or whatever it’s called now. You may get the GFG. 
I’ve had one for nigh on 30 years. Best $700 (?) I’ve ever spent (even though I watch from Bay 13 (now M9).

[Supreme_Demon 3,863]

Wow! What a win!

1 point! I thought we were gone. But we managed to find a way to win. Unbelievable!

Was a fantastic game too. Lots of highlights.

I lost my voice too!

Anyway, glad we got the win.

GO YOU MIGHTY DEMONS!!!! 🔴🔵👹

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,833]

2 hours ago, layzie said:

Best impossible comeback/great escape wins I've seen live:

5. V Geelong Rd 6 2006

4. V Freo Rd 7 2008

3. V Bulldogs Rd 21 2005

2.V Carlton QF 2000

1. V Brisbane Rd 18 2023

Unless you are just talking about the ones you were there in person for, surely V Geelong final H & A 2021 and arguably V Bulldogs 2021 GF are up there?

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,833]

3 hours ago, praha said:

Collingwood supporters are especially vile when they're threatened. Their cockiness is nauseating. 

This one was just plain arrogant when the Lions were on top.  Fair enough go and support two opposition teams in your clubs getup as a 'neutral'.  But when you pick sides, then start overtly giving it to the loosing team when the other gets on top, I think that's pretty rank and arggant.

[Wodjathefirst 2,632]

No matter how good the Bazball Pies think they are about doing coming from behind victories in the 4th quarter, we do it better (and against better sides). GO DEES!!!!

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

2 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

If we're going to keep Bowey, Salem and McVee in defence then we should be relying on their kicking skills to pick those kicks off into the corridor. Otherwise shift one of them forward of the ball and give us some better looks going inside 50.

Agreed. 

Also Maysie & Rivers need to recognise their short kick limitations and feed off to these guys with handball where possible and let them pull the trigger.  Hec even BB is better at short passes when he drifts down back on occasions.

With Bowser playing a bit more time forward of center you are also getting his crumbing / ground ball skills.

Speaking of which, good to see Kozzy finally getting some mojo back here.

Woe also adding a bit of class with his lovely running goal.

[old55 23,593]

6 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

My take - not that it matters much - we started on fire but could not maintain it  as Lions took control. Quarters 2 and particular 3 were pathetic. I mean shocking ala 2020 style - lost and seemingly not interested.

4th quarter was the Melbourne we all love. We took the game on and were able to score. Goody needs to give the boys more freedom and allow them to play like this. It’s harder to defend and we will concede some score but the forwards were bought into the game. 

 

Brisbane are a very good team who are going to get momentum at times.  We're not outstanding, we're in the mix at the top with them, Collingwood and Port.  Expecting perfection is a unreasonable.

Edited July 14, 2023 by old55

[Rednblueriseing 824]

Just Wow that was incredible 🔴🔵

[Emerald 1,744]

I couldn't watch the game so I only had the GameDay thread to go by so I went to bed during the meltdown and woke up to this thread. I wondering if I'm still dreaming.

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,842]

6 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Was 08 the game when Wona came alive in the last, with Jimmy hugging Wona’s dad

Yes correct. One of our 3 wins that year.

[picket fence 17,170]

5 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Is that like “Pizz Melksham off for good” in the game day thread😂😂😂

Smiths strength is his athleticism 1v1 matchup, and either intercept or provide contest and use your asset at ground level to rebound. Your analysis is the gift that keeps on giving 

Just keep putting the bait out son and not only will I take it, but also eat the fisherman as well!

Edited July 14, 2023 by picket fence

[old55 23,593]

Interesting that, as Fagan said, we tagged Neale. Pretty effective too.

[kryton101 400]

5 minutes ago, old55 said:

Interesting that, as Fagan said, we tagged Neale. Pretty effective too.

I was wondering who tagged him - didn’t hear his name called much?

[Queanbeyan Demon 6,850]

5 hours ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

I know its been mentioned by follow posters but seriously can't believe Petty was allow to play a quarter and a half meekly, half paced when he was clearly struggling.

He's got to know better and just drag yourself off if your no good.

Many would have pulled themselves off - messy business playing with a stiff back. 

[Kent 2,910]

6 minutes ago, old55 said:

Interesting that, as Fagan said, we tagged Neale. Pretty effective too.

Sparrow??

I thought for a lot of the game we still ignored free players cross field near 50 only to kick it to a contest in a pocket

Quarter 2 and 3 were risk averse

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,842]

5 hours ago, deejammin' said:

It’s actually even better than that:

Port 2-1

Brisbane, Melbourne 2-2

Pies 1-2 (not sure where you have given them the extra win from but they’ve only played 3 games against top 4 so far with their only win over Port, they play again soon). 

Yep, thanks for correcting that.

Not sure where I gave that extra Collingwood win. They play Port and Brisbane to come.