6 hours ago, Roger Mellie said:

It doesn't appear the umpires are accountable for their performance these days.

I totally appreciate how difficult the game is to umpire and that the AFL needed to stamp out umpire abuse at all levels of the game. This is reflected by commentators glossing over or ignoring umpiring mistakes. Having said that, it seems it's gone too far the other way with the same umpires showing up week after week making bad calls, getting sucked in by the theatre of the game to make crowd-pleasing calls and/or failing to learn from or improve on their mistakes. Further, to me anyway, they seem to have at times, increasing influence on the momentum of games. The North v Carlton game, earlier in the year was a classic example of this. Do these guys get dropped like players for poor performances?

I guess now that the AFL in their infinite wisdom have decreed 4 umpires to be better than 3 (or 2 or 1) then they need 4 x 9 = 36 per weekend.  Much harder to drop under performers. 

To those complaining about the Tmac one. The free was deserved for Tmac doing his usual “I can take on every tackler!” Crud that never works.

He cost us momentum and cost us the ball for sheer stupidity.

1 hour ago, McQueen said:

Lloyd said on Sunday footy show that he deserved a week because Hunter’s attempt at winning the footy was insufficient. 
What a pielkop!

And who decides what is a sufficient attempt at winning the footy. What percentage would be required to make it not a suspension.

What a joke this has all become.

When every ex player says, with injury prevention at the forefront of their opinion, that Hunter did this perfectly to avoid injury as players have been taught, then why is one bloke, inconsistently, doing this job of penalising players.

10 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

To those complaining about the Tmac one. The free was deserved for Tmac doing his usual “I can take on every tackler!” Crud that never works.

He cost us momentum and cost us the ball for sheer stupidity.

True that.  But once he got hit in the head it should have been reversed. You can’t go belting guys in the head. 

57 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Keep in mind ... it's invariably the AFL accredited media ;) ;) ;) 

Great to have you back BB

Jonas get suspended for a dangerous tackle that cost a goal, nice job by the umpire not to see that TMac got dumpred on his head. Far worse that what Sparrow did as TMacs head actually impacted the ground. Go figure.

Hunter gets a week, another trial by certain parts of the very useless media.

Izak Rankin, media says no case to answer, sneaky word out of the AFL is the same. Have a look and the incident, way worse than Hunters.

Im just about done with this game, AFL need to review how this completely messed up the system is.

It will be touch football in years to come.

Deestinga Out

One could almost think the media are working to help some teams and hinder others. There's a clear favoured group - Collingwood, Geelong, Carlton and Brisbane. We are not and having won a flag puts us further down the rankings.

2 hours ago, Demonstone said:

And there's my new word for the day!

My plesier. 

1 hour ago, Jaded No More said:

True that.  But once he got hit in the head it should have been reversed. You can’t go belting guys in the head. 

But quite often the umps still pay holding the ball even when players get a toe to it or it’s knocked out in the tackle. And the ump obv didn’t think he hit his head. But all of this could have been avoided if Tmac for once played within his limitations.

On 5/20/2023 at 2:21 PM, John Crow Batty said:

Just beware, we are dealing with a scorned Christian here. 

The sooner this bloke gets relieved of his position the better it will be. He has lost all objectivity. He is out of his league and jumping at shadows.

Getting more f---ed everyday. They both looked worse then Hunters.

ADELAIDE'S Izak Rankine and Sydney's Will Hayward have both been cleared by the Match Review Officer for making high contact with an opponent on Saturday.

Rankine and Hayward nothing.

Rankine hip straight into guys face.

MFC APPEAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This guy is a moron who is targeting us clearly.

Enough is enough.

Gawn smashed in the face trying to mark and nothing.

Fogarty a couple of weeks ago.

This system is stuffed and Christian is hopeless.

Appeal and show every incident he has let off.

Edited May 22, 20232 yr by Redleg

Roffey needs to go on the offensive... seriously...

2 hours ago, Gorgoroth said:

To those complaining about the Tmac one. The free was deserved for Tmac doing his usual “I can take on every tackler!” Crud that never works.

He cost us momentum and cost us the ball for sheer stupidity.

What are you on about?

The tackle that TMac got caught in has just been deemed illegal by the MRO.

Unless Port take it to the Tribunal and succeed, Jonas' tackle was illegal. The result should have been a free to TMac, not a free to Jonas.

MRO is a joke. Melbourne finally showed courage with the Roo report. We must now stand up again. The AFL has seen us as an easy target if we fold now all of the hard work will be undone. We must show we are a strong club and don’t mess with us. 

Rozzee keeps his feet there is nothing to see here. No way Trac or Oliver would contest in that way and leave themselves way open. They would pick it up and take the tackle. 

If Hunter didn’t keep his feet, massive head clash. 

AFL want to protect the head - players need to keep their feet. 

 

2 hours ago, Clintosaurus said:

One could almost think the media are working to help some teams and hinder others. There's a clear favoured group - Collingwood, Geelong, Carlton and Brisbane. We are not and having won a flag puts us further down the rankings.

Ya think ....

2 hours ago, Redleg said:

Rankine and Hayward nothing.

Rankine hip straight into guys face.

MFC APPEAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This guy is a moron who is targeting us clearly.

Enough is enough.

Gawn smashed in the face trying to mark and nothing.

Fogarty a couple of weeks ago.

This system is stuffed and Christian is hopeless.

Appeal and show every incident he has let off.

Could not agree more with this. Well said. The Rankine bump was almost identical to Hunter. We must continue to challenge this moron, and highlight his obvious negative bias towards the MFC. 
So his assessment of the Rankine and Hayward incidents is that they were reasonable in the circumstances, and yet Hunters wasnt! The AFL need to step up here, and bring some sanity back into all of this. This is a high contact sport, and yes head injuries are going to happen as a result. Not because players are being careless, it is the nature of the beast. 

 

 

2 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

What are you on about?

The tackle that TMac got caught in has just been deemed illegal by the MRO.

Unless Port take it to the Tribunal and succeed, Jonas' tackle was illegal. The result should have been a free to TMac, not a free to Jonas.

If Tmac did the right thing and disposed of the ball instead of trying to take the tackler on like he always does and fails then the tackle never occurs. 
Tmac did a typical Tmac blunder by not doing the smart thing. 
I don’t care about the suspension, the fact is, He took the tackler on, He cost us a free against (right or wrong decision), he cost us momentum and a goal, He made the umpire make a decision. All these things could have been avoided if at as had half a brain cell functioning when ever he has the ball in his hand, He has zero awareness. 

On 5/20/2023 at 8:22 PM, McQueen said:

If we accept Hunters 1 week suspension I’ll be checking out from the 2023 H&A season.

I’ve never been so disheartened by the direction of the game and its management.  
 

It’s just too infuriating. 

Feel pretty much exactly the same 

1 hour ago, Gorgoroth said:

If Tmac did the right thing and disposed of the ball instead of trying to take the tackler on like he always does and fails then the tackle never occurs. 
Tmac did a typical Tmac blunder by not doing the smart thing. 
I don’t care about the suspension, the fact is, He took the tackler on, He cost us a free against (right or wrong decision), he cost us momentum and a goal, He made the umpire make a decision. All these things could have been avoided if at as had half a brain cell functioning when ever he has the ball in his hand, He has zero awareness. 

I agree with this.

He had a player in the inside ready to give off.

We're taught from junior footy to always give the first option. Instead of giving that first option, he tries to take on the tackler as he always tries to do and deservedly got pinged. They then go and score a goal. 

He does this every single [censored] game and its beyond infuriating. 

8 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I agree with this.

He had a player in the inside ready to give off.

We're taught from junior footy to always give the first option. Instead of giving that first option, he tries to take on the tackler as he always tries to do and deservedly got pinged. They then go and score a goal. 

He does this every single [censored] game and its beyond infuriating. 

I don't agree.

Here's the incident: 

From what I can see, TMac picks it up looking away from goal, turns to look up field, has Viney as you've said, but has Jonas in the way. So he tries to side step Jonas and get his hands free to, potentially, handball to Viney. Jonas then gets him high:

Should right there have been a free to TMac. Jonas then proceeds to dump him illegally which should have been another free kick to TMac for a dangerous tackle.

But the main point is that I don't agree that it was simple for him to offload to Viney in the time he had.

36 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

I don't agree.

Here's the incident: 

From what I can see, TMac picks it up looking away from goal, turns to look up field, has Viney as you've said, but has Jonas in the way. So he tries to side step Jonas and get his hands free to, potentially, handball to Viney. Jonas then gets him high:

Should right there have been a free to TMac. Jonas then proceeds to dump him illegally which should have been another free kick to TMac for a dangerous tackle.

But the main point is that I don't agree that it was simple for him to offload to Viney in the time he had.

Are you serious?

He literally just had to give the quick option to a running Viney in front of him who was breaking away easily from Bonnar.

Jonas came running in from the side and before the tackle came there was probably 2 seconds that McDonald could have just placed it in front of Viney. 

Then as @Gorgorothsaid, McDonald needs to learn his limitations. He does this every single game. His attempt at side stepping or baulking a big key defender in this instance is pure stupidity by McDonald. It cost us a direct goal in the end. I disagree with you in that he didn't have enough time. It was there to give off with the quick hands.

This is a sign of a cooked footballer who thinks he's playing footy at 24 years of age.

Edited May 21, 20232 yr by dazzledavey36

Cannot believe there’s people on here who blame Tmac for an incident which resulted in him being the victim of a reportable (and reported) offence. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised though. 

31 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Are you serious?

He literally just had to give the quick option to a running Viney in front of him who was breaking away easily from Bonnar.

Jonas came running in from the side and before the tackle came there was probably 2 seconds that McDonald could have just placed it in front of Viney. 

Then as @Gorgorothsaid, McDonald needs to learn his limitations. He does this every single game. His attempt at side stepping or baulking a big key defender in this instance is pure stupidity by McDonald. It cost us a direct goal in the end. I disagree with you in that he didn't have enough time. It was there to give off with the quick hands.

This is a sign of a cooked footballer who thinks he's playing footy at 24 years of age.

Tmac makes blunders, no doubt. But this was a shocker from the umps - lets say the same incident happens in 20 other games I reckon 15 times Tmac gets the free for high contact. I'm not usually one to blame umpires but they were going for Port in the last quarter - clear as day. Paying marks that hit 5 other blokes hands or the ground, and getting 50m gained for port on the throw ins. Absolute [censored]