To cry or Not to cry?

[The Backyard Charizard 1,202]

Umpires

Not much to say really is there? They are a bloody disgrace! How the hell they can accept their paycheck after todays game is beyond me! They should donate every cent to charity! So inconsistent it's beyond a joke! And that decision against Junior in the dying seconds was as harsh as they come!

Pickett Tackle

I don't care what anyone says.... That was a bloody good tackle! The commentators had a field day with it on the TV, saying that the AFL is trying to crack down on the pinning of the arms in a tackle?!?!?! What the *&^% is he supposed to do? Bump him and get rubbed out for 6 weeks?? Maybe take his legs out from under him and get 8 weeks?? Slam him in the head and get a life ban?? If every tackle I layed in my career was as good as that one I would be stoked!

Petterd

Looking bloody good.... Give this boy another pre-season and we are in for a real star! So quick in a pack with his hands and so skilled with his disposal around the ground! Spoils like a 100 game defender and reads the play better than most on our list already! Keep up the great work Ricky....

Every heart beats true

Much respect to every player out on that ground today! I have not been this proud of the boys in the Red 'n Blue for a long time.... Tried their guts out all day and robbed in the end of a result....

We will win more than we lose for the rest of the year!

Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing we will have to wait and see (re: draft picks)

[Gorgoroth 12,947]

im the same im shattered, angry the emotions are all over the joint

that was not a free against neitz and daveys goal should have stood, we have been robbed like we were against adelaide in queensland

[Jerry Lundergard 420]

I know White was given 3AW player of the game, but i am so disappointed in him for that passage of play that led to the Motlop goal. He strayed off his line, when in the middle of the ground, and then decided to give it off to the inexperienced Warnock which ultimately led to the winning goal.

Maybe it's just because i'm not a Jeff White fan, but that was just not good enough for me.

On a positive, I thought Pettrd was fantatstic. And improved performances from Bate, Jones and Sylvia.

[Anders 14]

I'm going to risk tha warth of this board and say that the umpires didnt cost us the game. We only have ourselves to blame. The free against Neitx was soft, but careless nonetheless and techincally there. The free against McDonald was probably irrelevant considering where the ball was and time left.

But we were dumb espcially in that last 10 minutes. Warnock's turnover, Bruce going three on one to Davey. We didn't kick the goals that needed to be kicked and we had a multitude of opportunities. Port had a much better structure, but most of the guys tried there guts out.

Its time for a new coach, thats the main thing to come out of today

[Harcourt 146]

Were you at the game Anders? #24 was a disgrace. Clearly cost us the game imo. Very clearly.

[Anders 14]

. And improved performances from Bate, Jones and Sylvia.

Bate - yes

Jones - yes

Sylvia - no

Missed tow set shots and I'm not sure waht else he did really. Petterd was ultra impressive again and Bate was superb, and glad for him that will get his confidence up. Also Bell was terrific. There really wasn't too many bad players today. Which makes it hard to take that we lost

[Anders 14]

Were you at the game Anders? #24 was a disgrace. Clearly cost us the game imo. Very clearly.

Well I don't pay attention to what umpires pay what. The worst decision IMO was holding tha ball against Bell on the wing and then a holding free kick for Tredrea on Carroll. But in the crucial moments of the game the umpires did not lose it for us. We had our opportunties, fact is we werent good enough to take them

[Demon2 58]

Bate - yes

Jones - yes

Sylvia - no

Missed tow set shots and I'm not sure waht else he did really. Petterd was ultra impressive again and Bate was superb, and glad for him that will get his confidence up. Also Bell was terrific. There really wasn't too many bad players today. Which makes it hard to take that we lost

silva had a good game...2 set shots from outside 50 for someone coming back into the game...

but u said it in your previous post...warnock...what do u expect..not really a footballer...young...

but for Bruce to kick that pass to davey....that sums up Bruce...he might get possessions..but he makes the dumbest decisions at times...and his skills today were shocking..dropping marks..missing goals...

[Gorgoroth 12,947]

the whole team missed crucial shots on goal

[deanox 9,912]

But in the crucial moments of the game the umpires did not lose it for us. We had our opportunties, fact is we werent good enough to take them

i am not arguing that we didnt take our opportunites, but how can you claim they didnt cost us at crucial moments? they dissallowed a goal that we had kicked, with only a couple of minutes left in the game by paying a suspect free kick. that would have won us the game. how more crucial can you get?????

[deanox 9,912]

I know White was given 3AW player of the game...

interesting, they gave best on to bate on triple m. at first i disagreed and i then i thought about it. it was pretty even, he kicked a couple and had a lot of footy...

[CHAMP 347]

the whole team missed crucial shots on goal

As I posted elsewhere, 2.8 from set shots (not including other shots which failed to register) is not gonna win you many games.

[deanox 9,912]

2.8 is terrible. i cant see why proffessional footballers can be that bad at kicking for goal...

[Guest dee'viator]

Umpires

Not much to say really is there? They are a bloody disgrace! How the hell they can accept their paycheck after todays game is beyond me! They should donate every cent to charity! So inconsistent it's beyond a joke! And that decision against Junior in the dying seconds was as harsh as they come!

Pickett Tackle

I don't care what anyone says.... That was a bloody good tackle! The commentators had a field day with it on the TV, saying that the AFL is trying to crack down on the pinning of the arms in a tackle?!?!?! What the *&^% is he supposed to do? Bump him and get rubbed out for 6 weeks?? Maybe take his legs out from under him and get 8 weeks?? Slam him in the head and get a life ban?? If every tackle I layed in my career was as good as that one I would be stoked!

Petterd

Looking bloody good.... Give this boy another pre-season and we are in for a real star! So quick in a pack with his hands and so skilled with his disposal around the ground! Spoils like a 100 game defender and reads the play better than most on our list already! Keep up the great work Ricky....

Every heart beats true

Much respect to every player out on that ground today! I have not been this proud of the boys in the Red 'n Blue for a long time.... Tried their guts out all day and robbed in the end of a result....

Except cameron bruce!

We will win more than we lose for the rest of the year!

Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing we will have to wait and see (re: draft picks)

[grazman 7,432]

2.8 is terrible. i cant see why proffessional footballers can be that bad at kicking for goal...

Did you see the highlights from Brisbane V Freo or Ottens missing from 15 metres out? Brad Green (with the exception of last year when he had an injured foot) is easily our best set shot at goal.... I think he needs to go back to the forward line when we get some midfielders back. Poor kicking at goal is poor footy.

[DemonDoug 0]

No more tears left to cry, this team rips your heart out. You can't say anything negative about their efforts, but oh geeez the skills and decision making at crucial times were still awful. How many chances did we have to put Port away, we were playing well above them for most of the last half, it was only our poor skills that kept them in it. It should not have even been close.

Sadly the last free kick was there (by Neitz), but stupid delivery from Bruce. How many kicks into the forward line in the last half did we stuff-up.

At least we no longer have to concern ourselves with finals. we have no chance. Plan you ski trips Melbourne supporters.

[Pates 9,660]

Our skills coach should be fired! We can't hit a target consistantly, and we are disgraceful at kicking for goal.

[Maybe next year 170]

Anders is right!

The David Neitz was there althought it was very technical. We can blame oursleves for losing this to the same level as blaming the umpires. We turned the ball over far too much especially in the 1st quarter. You can always blame umpires but that would be taking the easy option. There were mistakes and yes it probably cost us some goals. We have to stop putting ourselves in a position where the umpires have an opportunity to "cost us".

As for Dee-viator who implied that Bruce did not try his guts out. I say he is just about the only one who has the entire the year to date. He played with a calf injury today and I am sure tried his guts out all day. Sure he turned the ball over a few times but he was not Robinson Crusoe.

There is so much player bashing here. I am 110% sure every player tries his best every week.

[Pates 9,660]

Didn't Bruce get like 28 possies, it'd be pretty hard to do that if you weren't trying.

[drdrake 3,163]

Once again we read that our skills and turn overs cost us the game. Since round 1 our basic kicking, handpassing and marking skills have been well below what is required at AFL level. My concern increased today when I realised it wasn't our young inexperienced players that were making these errors but our senior players.

[Rogue 585]

I know White was given 3AW player of the game, but i am so disappointed in him for that passage of play that led to the Motlop goal. He strayed off his line, when in the middle of the ground, and then decided to give it off to the inexperienced Warnock which ultimately led to the winning goal.

I thought similarly, but moreso that it's understandable that young guys can make mistakes like that.

The Neitz free was probably there, although in the context of the game - where they'd put the whistle away - it was pretty surprising.

The free against McDonald was utterly ridiculous.

[deanox 9,912]

Once again we read that our skills and turn overs cost us the game. Since round 1 our basic kicking, handpassing and marking skills have been well below what is required at AFL level. My concern increased today when I realised it wasn't our young inexperienced players that were making these errors but our senior players.

you should have read that the umpires cost us the game. maybe it was a misprint.

[occo 2]

Pickett Tackle

I don't care what anyone says.... That was a bloody good tackle! The commentators had a field day with it on the TV, saying that the AFL is trying to crack down on the pinning of the arms in a tackle?!?!?! What the *&^% is he supposed to do? Bump him and get rubbed out for 6 weeks?? Maybe take his legs out from under him and get 8 weeks?? Slam him in the head and get a life ban?? If every tackle I layed in my career was as good as that one I would be stoked!

Agreed. there was no difference in that tackle and others i watched this weekend. Channel 10, well we all know that they are garbage absolute trash. The umps cost us the game but i want pick 1 so losing 22 games is OK for me. Lets get Kruizer

[BrownlowBruce 1]

DEEVIATOR

except cameron bruce..... exaplain to me.....

u tell me why except cameron bruce!?.....

can u justify ur idiotic comments?

im not sayin he played great......

but too single him out like that... says alot about u and ur support for the MFC....

[drdrake 3,163]

you should have read that the umpires cost us the game. maybe it was a misprint.

We controlled enough of the ball today that we should have been well in front, I agree the umpiring yesterday wasn't good but they didn't cost us the game our turn overs and decision making cost us.