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we currently lead the league in goal kicking accuracy after three rounds. It felt like we missed so many easy set shots last year, shooting ourselves in the foot. It’s fantastic to see this has turned around!

 

 

Most teams below 50%

Not surprising when again and again, a bloke 25m out on not much of an angle believes his best bet is a sideways kick.

And how many players find it impossible to run in on a straight line without veering out to the right or left at the last second. They simply cannot kick while moving in a straight line. Amazing skill deficiencies for "top level" players.

(Very pleasing to see the new Melb no 2 moving in a straight line for all 3 snags.)

 

nice to see us not kick to the pockets constantly!

keep it up!

A big bonus for Choco I say. 

6 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

A big bonus for Choco I say. 

The man is a legend 

 

I don't have the exact numbers in front of me, but per the HS stats the expected scores on Sunday were something like 108 - 88 based on the shots the two teams took.

Sydney definitely missed a couple of relatively easy shots, but for us to exceed our expected score by so much was very impressive.

I saw the stats last night on Footy Classified. BBB and Fritsch are 57%+ goal accuracy.

Naughton, McKay and Daniher all below 50%. Daniher was something like 46%.

I also heard many commentators and analyst say that if they had to choose a player to kick a set shot to win a premiership It would be the silky smooth Fritsch (even BT was giving him a lot of praise).


Makes a big difference where the shots are taken from .

Boundary, 50m line etc.

Without any quantitative evidence to back it up it seems that we are attacking the goals more from the front and taking shots closer in.

Clearly a focus or pre season. It seems contagious when players miss goals and the opposite appears true.

 

Long may we have this accuracy.

38 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Makes a big difference where the shots are taken from .

Boundary, 50m line etc.

Without any quantitative evidence to back it up it seems that we are attacking the goals more from the front and taking shots closer in.

Clearly a focus or pre season. It seems contagious when players miss goals and the opposite appears true.

 

Long may we have this accuracy.

Agree, I said in the post game I thought we were having our shots from within 30 with slight angles. Better than trying from the boundary for sure.

I thought that the players , in the Sydney match, were now kicking in a more traditional method, with a standard drop punt, and had used less the kicking around the body method.

Is this correct?

Maybe a Mark Williams alteration?

 

This is a big tick for the game plan. We've been great at getting inside 50s over the last few years, but there seems to be a a greater focus on finding a player who's going to decent shot on goal, not just bombing in. I went to the footy on Sunday with a Sydney supporting mate, and he lamented a number of times that their entries were always scrappy and never looking for a free player, the opposite of what we were doing. He said that's why it looked like we'd never miss, we take the best option in the forward line, so few lose gathers and snaps, mostly mark and goals.

It helps when guys like Fritsch and Chandler are great set shots from an angle as well, plus ANB looks a lot more comfortable this season.

23 minutes ago, RedsoxMan said:

I thought that the players , in the Sydney match, were now kicking in a more traditional method, with a standard drop punt, and had used less the kicking around the body method.

Is this correct?

Maybe a Mark Williams alteration?

 

I think you're correct about the players using the traditional method more. But that may be as a result of where they were kicking from, rather than any change to the kicking technique. Fewer shots taken from deep in the forward pockets reduces the need for the round the corner kicks.


@binman can we measure the value of a KPF using efficiency plus shots taken per game?

Say for example, a good forward should have above 56% efficiency while taking 3 plus shots per game.

22 hours ago, layzie said:

Good kicking is good football.. 

Tx coach.

And a shout out to the cheer squad member who holds up the bullseye.

3 hours ago, ElDiablo14 said:

@binman can we measure the value of a KPF using efficiency plus shots taken per game?

Say for example, a good forward should have above 56% efficiency while taking 3 plus shots per game.

Above 65% is a pretty safe marker. 

It's been an issue somewhat but Jvr seems to be following the skill of Fritta and Tmac what are very accurate. Spargs too is accurate and several including Anb, Oliver and Max seem to have really improved.

Chandler who looked bad in the praccy games was very good.

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5 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

It's been an issue somewhat but Jvr seems to be following the skill of Fritta and Tmac what are very accurate. Spargs too is accurate and several including Anb, Oliver and Max seem to have really improved.

Chandler who looked bad in the praccy games was very good.

When Nibbler goals from a set shot it always looks like perfect technique. I honestly think the majority of his misses come from fatigue and running all over the country side all day. 

20 minutes ago, layzie said:

Above 65% is a pretty safe marker. 

And how many shots per game would be ideal?, In terms of having an impact on games.

So 65% and above is considered elite, correct?

19 minutes ago, layzie said:

When Nibbler goals from a set shot it always looks like perfect technique. I honestly think the majority of his misses come from fatigue and running all over the country side all day. 

Your right,his set shots are good. I'm not sure if I'm thinking of his early day snaps but I don't think they were great. I might be wrong.

 
5 hours ago, Red and Blue realist said:

This is a big tick for the game plan. We've been great at getting inside 50s over the last few years, but there seems to be a a greater focus on finding a player who's going to decent shot on goal, not just bombing in. I went to the footy on Sunday with a Sydney supporting mate, and he lamented a number of times that their entries were always scrappy and never looking for a free player, the opposite of what we were doing. He said that's why it looked like we'd never miss, we take the best option in the forward line, so few lose gathers and snaps, mostly mark and goals.

It helps when guys like Fritsch and Chandler are great set shots from an angle as well, plus ANB looks a lot more comfortable this season.

Spargo in the first quarter, Punt Rd end of the Warne stand forward pocket was a good example.  Sized up the goal, decided shot was too difficult, looked for a good option, couldn’t see one, balked and hit up BBB, who nailed the goal. 

Poor goal kicking efficiency has proven to be the highest contributor to early mortality in all supporter groups, including driving increased alcoholism, anti-social behaviour, compulsive eating and property destruction. Conversely efficient conversion has shown to be one of the best drivers of domestic happiness and well adjusted children.

Therefore Choco Williams for 2023 Australian of the Year, and a gig on Dancing with the Stars.

  


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