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POSTGAME: Rd 02 vs Brisbane

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Just now, dazzledavey36 said:

I don't get it.

How on earth do we have a 2x All Australian ruckman surrounded by star midfielders only to get smashed in the centre clearances?

God even Ashcroft was bulling the likes of Oliver ans Harmes. So hard to watch.

I have no doubt part of it was the conditions. It's no excuse but we were fumbly AF and they were clean.

So many times Trac was the first to the ball after a Grundy hit out but he couldn't collect it. Then Neale or McCluggage or Ashcroft would collect it and clear it.

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    3 minutes ago, Anti-Saint said:

    but we still had stars: PetrOliver, Brown kicked another bag, Fridge, Lever, Tom Petty, Grundy, Brayshaw, Langdon ... that's a handy side.

    Pickett is a 2-3 goals difference to our team.

    May stops about 3-4 goals a game.

    Gawn simply refuses to let us get smashed around clearances. 

    They still absolutely would have made a huge difference. 

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    Putting aside the farce towards the end, and our brief flurry after it, tonight we were totally dominated in every aspect of the game, including those that we pride ourselves on.  How much of that was related to the injury to our skip?  We will never know, but I’d say a fair bit.  We looked completely ‘shell shocked’!

    I’m totally gutted by the result, but on a more positive note, if the Bears can turn it around from last week to this, then we can do the same next week.  Do Dees!

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    Another consolation prize. They didn’t score 100 points for the game.

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    2 minutes ago, YearOfTheDees said:

    Viney does that and his 2nd game back is normally out f this world brilliant.

    concur but will Viney play next week after head bump to Richie Rich?

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    2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    I don't get it.

    How on earth do we have a 2x All Australian ruckman surrounded by star midfielders only to get smashed in the centre clearances?

    God even Ashcroft was bulling the likes of Oliver ans Harmes. So hard to watch.

    Oliver ranked best on ground …

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    1 minute ago, YearOfTheDees said:

    Viney does that and his 2nd game back is normally out f this world brilliant.

    Gee, he (and we) would want to hope so.

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    I hope it was a wake up call. Last season we got to 10 wins in a row but we gradually atrophied away to getting there and we were never a great side from then on. Hopefully like getting a monkey off our backs. 

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    1 minute ago, Wodjathefirst said:

    Another consolation prize. They didn’t score 100 points for the game.

    and it looked like a 10-goal thrash

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    2 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

    I was really disappointed in Viney tonight, thought he would be champing at the bit.

    I drop Harmes and TMac for Hibberd and Van Rooyen.

    Well, it's tough now for JVR, because unless he's playing second ruck, it's likely TMac will keep his spot to play second ruck to Grundy.

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    I don't care about the result I just want Max to be ok.

    I seriously don't think we could've played worse, nothing went right, we just bombed away, players were fumbling and second to the footy, giving away stupid free kicks. And for all that Brisbane didn't really put us away, even before the power failure. We won't play that bad again but we need Maxy he is so integral to our structure and heart.

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    1 minute ago, Deestar9 said:

    Oliver ranked best on ground …

    great point Deestar

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    7 minutes ago, Deestar9 said:

    We all get upset ..I get that. But we are by no means perfect …& we showed in 12 mins what we are capable of ..still. Grundy got better & will improve a lot quicker in Max’s absence ..Fritta started to work his way into the game. I just don’t get how as supporters we tip bucketloads on the players and predict doom & gloom 2 games in…

     

    Hard agreement with that. Just to be clear - I don't want to seem like I'm predicting doom and gloom. We're a team of stars and this one game isn't going to make or break our season. If anything, I think we'll come back even harder; I'd be worried if I was Sydney.

    I just can't understand where that last 12 minutes was at any other point in the game? We're 30 points down at three quarter time - surely you send the players out with the same message as after the power outage. Drop the eyes. Play risky. Switch it up. But it just wasn't there, and I cannot fathom why?

    It's not their first rodeo, and it's not like they haven't done it before. Someone else said it earlier - it's like some of the guys pick and choose when to kick it up a gear?

    Edit - I also agree, "pissweak" was a poor choice of word. None of the guys out there are that. My emotion got the better of me there.

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    Besides getting mauled in the middle until the last 5 minutes, the other thing that happened all night was Brisbane players, playing in front. Didn’t matter if it was our backline or forward line, they seemed to always play in front. 
     

    There were other things that were poor but when it comes down to it, you aren’t going to win many games of footy when you get slaughtered in the middle like that. 

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    Worst game in 5 years, flattered by the result.  Couldn’t give a rats effort by almost the whole squad.  Midfield insipid, petty pathetic.  Too many to mention that has underwhelming games.  Wtf happened to allow such dominance by a bunch of …. Letting Daniher look like a valuable player was a disgrace.

     

    need to turn that around before next week.

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    Brayshaw, Viney and Langdon were extremely poor tonight.

    Lost count the amount of times Viney and Brayshaw just completely coughed it up so easily.

     

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    3 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

    I have no doubt part of it was the conditions. It's no excuse but we were fumbly AF and they were clean.

    So many times Trac was the first to the ball after a Grundy hit out but he couldn't collect it. Then Neale or McCluggage or Ashcroft would collect it and clear it.

    Always when it's a bit wet

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    Its tough when you lose the number 1 tap ruckman and an i50 contested marking beast and the competitions best down the line target and an intercept defender and your captain in the first few minutes.  That's 5 players you have to cover. 

    Take a look at the replay of that last 8 minutes in the 1st and tell me Max wouldnt have featured in every one of those scenarios.   

    After quarter time we regouped with our structure but still got belted in contested clearances from stoppages so always playing catch up. That Ashcroft kid can play jeepers. 

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    Just now, deva5610 said:

    Hard agreement with that. Just to be clear - I don't want to seem like I'm predicting doom and gloom. We're a team of stars and this one game isn't going to make or break our season. If anything, I think we'll come back even harder, I'd be worried if I was Sydney.

    I just can't understand where that last 12 minutes was at any other point in the game? We're 30 points down at three quarter time - surely you send the players out with the same message as after the power outage. Drop the eyes. Play risky. Switch it up. But it just wasn't there, and I cannot fathom why?

    It's not their first rodeo, and it's not like they haven't done it before. Someone else said it earlier - it's like some of the guys pick and choose when to kick it up a gear?

    It came off in part because Brisbane stopped.

    Lever was trying to play like that all night but it became easier after the restart.

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    Just now, A F said:

    Well, it's tough now for JVR, because unless he's playing second ruck, it's likely TMac will keep his spot to play second ruck to Grundy.

    What could be better for an old dude with a bung foot than playing second ruck…

    I give him 2 games before he breaks down. Can’t possibly be doing centre ruck work for half a game. 

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    1 minute ago, BoBo said:

    Besides getting mauled in the middle until the last 5 minutes, the other thing that happened all night was Brisbane players, playing in front. Didn’t matter if it was our backline or forward line, they seemed to always play in front. 
     

    There were other things that were poor but when it comes down to it, you aren’t going to win many games of footy when you get slaughtered in the middle like that. 

    Spot on

    Not sure where everyone thought the ball was going

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    1 minute ago, A F said:

    Well, it's tough now for JVR, because unless he's playing second ruck, it's likely TMac will keep his spot to play second ruck to Grundy.

    that A F sounds like "team balance" reasons .. you are right

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