POSTGAME: Practice Match vs Richmond

[Fat Tony 5,217]

8 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

I suppose where I can’t get around this is that we’ve seen very little of Petty forward to have the confidence you have that he’d be a 50 goal forward. That’s a seriously good forward (9 in the entire league last year). Yes he can take a pack mark but you’re assuming he can do that repeatedly, Naughton-esque, for an entire season having not trained there over summer. It’s a much bigger leap to make IMO.

Where I find it harder to get around is that we know he is an integral and important part of our defence and if we make the change we have to replace him with Tomlinson (questionable although I’m a fan), Turner (1 AFL game of experience), J Smith (never played more than 4 games in a row due to injury and at any rate not a lockdown defender) or JVR (who hasn’t trained as a defender). So it’s doubly risky.

Taking Petty out of defence would certainly make it worse but it would still be excellent with May and Lever, with Gawn or Grundy dropping back. Our strong midfield and zoning means that our defence will always get an easy run as well.

Our defence was excellent before Petty came into the team.

 

[spirit of norm smith 16,250]

Lots to like from yesterday. 
 

👍🏻Gawn and Grundy combo

👍🏻Hunter and Langdon combo

👍🏻Mcvee is a big chance to debut round 1 

👍🏻Fritsch and Viney still to come in (and Salem) 

👍🏻Chandler. Yes he missed some but had the energy and kicking to nail goals 

👍🏻Kozzzy is a star ⭐️we love you, please stay

👍🏻May is our rock 

👍🏻Trac could go to another level. Elite of the Elite. 
 

🤔 overhandballing still is a slight concern. Yes it’s a practice match but the pressure comes in the real stuff. The extra handballs were ok yesterday but could be a problem under added pressure. Sometimes a kick to forward 50 or indeed “just kick the goal “ were needed. 

[mauriesy 7,256]

43 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

There it is ... "out-of-contract livewire"! Expect to hear it repeated ad infinitum this year in reference to Pickett. 🙄

[FarNorthernD 5,861]

Not sure if it has been mentioned here but I thought ANB was really good. 

[Kent 2,906]

Any body want to do the votes form yesterday?

Hunter surely must figure

McVee only 4 disposals was he just man on man defending?

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

29 minutes ago, FarNorthernD said:

Not sure if it has been mentioned here but I thought ANB was really good. 

He was excellent FND, if we were giving votes he’d be top 3 for me.

[Willmoy1947 4,081]

9 hours ago, hardtack said:

Which makes it all the more pleasing… it means we were performing against a team that was 100% committed, as opposed to just going through the motions in a practice match.

Old time Bomber Coach....

[Willmoy1947 4,081]

12 hours ago, Stu said:

Two things I loved today:

1. Players taking time to assess their options, and not always handballing to the open player. Last year teams learnt to roll off their opponent to cover our outnumber. Today several players feigned to handball and then turned to open up the field. It was great to see. 
2. Pressuring ball carrier - last year we folded back a lot and let teams run the ball downfield. Today the team made sure to pressure whoever had or was about to take possession. The perfect example being when May made that huge tackle on the wing to halt a rebound by the Tiges. It was the result of 5 other players rolling off their man to pressure the next in line to receive possession.

if was so good to see these adjustments 😁

Agree Stu, and the one that i noticed was short kick out followed by very fast play on from 30 out with the whole ground at your disposal. Looked so simple.

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,733]

28 minutes ago, Kent said:

Any body want to do the votes form yesterday?

Hunter surely must figure

6) Petracca

5) Gawn

4) May

3) Hunter

2) Bowey

1) Oliver

 

[BDA 22,713]

3 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

The other thing I will add was how baffling a decision it was to play Laurie ahead of Jordon. Laurie looks a mile off the pace and will need to get Jack Viney strong to make it. 

The only way we’ll find out if Laurie can make the grade is if we play him. Jordon will play plenty of games for us so I’ve no issue with him sitting this one out for Laurie.

And I agree Laurie looks a long way off.

[Willmoy1947 4,081]

2 hours ago, Winter Dan said:

Yze said in presser that the midfield got tired end of last season so they will be sharing the load through this season - that was a intereating. 

Yahoo more players, like Sparrow in the middle and quite a variation around the ground.

[Fat Tony 5,217]

3 minutes ago, BDA said:

The only way we’ll find out if Laurie can make the grade is if we play him. Jordon will play plenty of games for us so I’ve no issue with him sitting this one out for Laurie.

And I agree Laurie looks a long way off.

That’s true. But my thinking is that Laurie needs to dominate VFL football first. He hasn’t shown enough to warrant the promotion.

Jordon looks to have been squeezed out by Hunter’s arrival and the want to push Kossie through the middle.

[BDA 22,713]

BB wasn’t quite on his game but he was still able to draw a number of free kicks. He’ll be better for the outing and will start round 1 and play all the big games. Reckon 15-17 H&A games from him is as much as we should expect. JVR will get his chance this year, no need to push it

[Willmoy1947 4,081]

2 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Chandler worked really hard but I wondered whether he feels he has to start kicking goals so took low percentage shots (two I think) from the 45-50m range. 

Not sure he should have licence to kick for goal from that range especially when there is a breeze.  The ball floats off line or tapers off at the end.  At least one of the two was a point.  If he doesn't have the distance he should aim for the top of the goal square.

He could learn from Spargo who always looks for a closer target when he is that far out.  Spargo knows his limitations and plays to his strengths.

I don't know about that, i think this young bloke can hoof it, and i wouldn't try to diminish his enthusiasm too much.

I would think he will be told soon enough as required..

[monoccular 17,413]

10 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

richmond got frustrated and got dirty

 

10 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Didn't Viney get suspended for that a year or two back?

Yes. But he was wearing red n blue. 

4 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said:

This action seems to be Cotchin's modus operandi in so many matches - certainly, many times against the Dees over the past few seasons. He is a strangler, attempting to damage the larynx and trachea of players with that forearm, elbow and full body weight driven vertically into the sensitive frontal neck area when a player is on the ground. Viney did get a reprimand for this action a while ago and learned his lesson - but Cochin never does. It is a seriously dangerous action poorly regulated by umpires from a number of exponents across the 'popular' clubs.

Obviously learned the technique directly  from his coach. 

[Deemania since 56 6,607]

10 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

richmond got frustrated and got dirty

Richmond could not find a way through defensive coverage and related defensive pressure, plus the extraordinary ground coverage by the Dees' backmen, the midfielders and the opportunistic hunger of the forwards (smaller blokes, in particular). By attempting to get 'dirty' in response, they exposed themselves as 'the not so tough' and mostly, were again brushed aside by the Dees' mix of mobile muscle and brawn. This was an absolute delight to watch at the ground; those who could not attend really missed some enigmatic moments of Dee-resolve. Phabulous!

[Willmoy1947 4,081]

FREO VERSUS Collingwood Prelim Final this year...

[picket fence 17,034]

18 minutes ago, BDA said:

The only way we’ll find out if Laurie can make the grade is if we play him. Jordon will play plenty of games for us so I’ve no issue with him sitting this one out for Laurie.

And I agree Laurie looks a long way off.

Yer but not until he bangs the house down ,which he hasn,'t nup must earn his chance!

[Deemania since 56 6,607]

3 hours ago, Winter Dan said:

Yze said in presser that the midfield got tired end of last season so they will be sharing the load through this season - that was a intereating. 

Sensible, too. Our excellent midfield three would otherwise be subject to injuries, small and team-destroying. Physical tiredness leads directly to an ability to get caught by opposition(s) and be hammered; or, such consequences aptly being avoided by finding that extra yard of space ... with contactless interferences. 

[Deemania since 56 6,607]

1 hour ago, Kent said:

Any body want to do the votes form yesterday?

Hunter surely must figure

McVee only 4 disposals was he just man on man defending?

Have a go ... but it may ruffle some:

1. Gawn

2. May

3. Tracca

4. Rivers

5. AN-B

[Jaded No More 68,855]

1 hour ago, Kent said:

Any body want to do the votes form yesterday?

Hunter surely must figure

McVee only 4 disposals was he just man on man defending?

Was on Dusty most of the game and kept him quiet which is a giant win. I think they gave him a purely defensive role this week to see how he goes against arguably one of the scariest players you’ll ever find yourself pinned against in a one on one situation. 
Kept his cool and did a really good job. 
He might just be our next Jetta/Hibbo!

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Yer but not until he bangs the house down ,which he hasn,'t nup must earn his chance!

No, no, no, Picket! He has to bang the door down. Houses get trained down not banged down. 

Sunday morning mixed metaphors vibes  😁

PS: re a live PF training report from Casa De FRITTATA, howsabout Saturday morning while hangovers are being nursed you can write up a report on the back deck? But only if you’re prepared to spend (minimum) two hours or so throwing floaty dog toys into the pool for big ol’ Oscar the pooch to retrieve. Heads up: this dog is indefatigable. 

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,733]

23 minutes ago, Willmoy1947 said:

FREO VERSUS Collingwood Prelim Final this year...

Not a bad punt.

Hopefully Freo win that, and we’re in the other prelim!

[Redleg 40,815]

2 hours ago, FarNorthernD said:

Not sure if it has been mentioned here but I thought ANB was really good. 

He was.

[Orion 332]

16 hours ago, Nicko said:

Ben brown is copping a bit and whilst stats wise he may not have had an incredible practice match, one view, for what it’s worth, is that he will take the best or second best tall defender every week….and like today that may just allow our other tall forwards (think Max, TMac, Grundy) to outplay the oppositions third or fourth best tall defender they have…..

That's true but you still have to kick goals