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16 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Is it when the whistle goes to signal the ball is out or when the ball is out?

I guess it's when the whistle is blown to signal stop the clock. If the clock stops before it ...

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32 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

 If he didn’t, that’s on him. he had everything going for him at the Dees.

 

This. We served the world to him on a shiny silver platter and he chose a BBQ at his mum’s. 

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3 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

This. We served the world to him on a shiny silver platter and he chose a BBQ at his mum’s. 

Are you drunk? You’re usually not this paltry with you comments. 

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3 minutes ago, McQueen said:

Are you drunk? You’re usually not this paltry with you comments. 

I’m drunk. And [censored] Freo right up the cockburn facility.

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Just now, McQueen said:

Are you drunk? You’re usually not this paltry with you comments. 

We wasted pick 3 on a player who then won a rising star and a flag within the first two season of his career, and then decided halfway through his third season that he just couldn’t be stuffed giving anything to our club anymore. He decided mid season he wanted to go home and didn’t even try after that. He also couldn’t care less about us being screwed in a trade deal, refusing to even engage with West Coast. 
He treated our club like it a means to an end. I have no idea why I need to be kind to him. 

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10 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

This. We served the world to him on a shiny silver platter and he chose a BBQ at his mum’s. 

900k a year and i bet he made his mum shout the snags 

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6 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

We wasted pick 3 on a player who then won a rising star and a flag within the first two season of his career, and then decided halfway through his third season that he just couldn’t be stuffed giving anything to our club anymore. He decided mid season he wanted to go home and didn’t even try after that. He also couldn’t care less about us being screwed in a trade deal, refusing to even engage with West Coast. 
He treated our club like it a means to an end. I have no idea why I need to be kind to him. 

I’m sorry for making the previous post but I did it with full expectation of you launching. 😂😂

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10 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

We wasted pick 3 on a player who then won a rising star and a flag within the first two season of his career, and then decided halfway through his third season that he just couldn’t be stuffed giving anything to our club anymore. He decided mid season he wanted to go home and didn’t even try after that. He also couldn’t care less about us being screwed in a trade deal, refusing to even engage with West Coast. 
He treated our club like it a means to an end. I have no idea why I need to be kind to him. 

Wow. That is harsh 

We didn’t waste Pick 3. It was a major part of the 13th Premiership. He was offered a Monster Contract at The Shockers, and there were Family Problems, which i am not going to discuss here. 
 

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14 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

We wasted pick 3 on a player who then won a rising star and a flag within the first two season of his career, and then decided halfway through his third season that he just couldn’t be stuffed giving anything to our club anymore. He decided mid season he wanted to go home and didn’t even try after that. He also couldn’t care less about us being screwed in a trade deal, refusing to even engage with West Coast. 
He treated our club like it a means to an end. I have no idea why I need to be kind to him. 

I understand the passion, but lets not forget those dark years we all struggled through.

I don't care what happened, a premiership player is a premiership player. 

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7 minutes ago, RyanD said:

I understand the passion, but lets not forget those dark years we all struggled through.

I don't care what happened, a premiership player is a premiership player. 

And in the trade we got 2 x 1st rounders (Jefferson + currently pick 6) plus a 2nd rounder (currently 24) for him.

Aaaaaand... we are paying Grundy, a 2 x AA ruckman about the same as what we would've paid Dogga

I'm ok with that

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17 minutes ago, Stiff Arm said:

And in the trade we got 2 x 1st rounders (Jefferson + currently pick 6) plus a 2nd rounder (currently 24) for him.

Aaaaaand... we are paying Grundy, a 2 x AA ruckman about the same as what we would've paid Dogga

I'm ok with that

We are paying Grundy 300k less than what Jackson would have cost us

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27 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Wow. That is harsh 

We didn’t waste Pick 3. It was a major part of the 13th Premiership. He was offered a Monster Contract at The Shockers, and there were Family Problems, which i am not going to discuss here. 
 

I have never once wished anything bad to happen to him. I don’t want him to get injured, hell I don’t even want him to play badly. All I want is for Freo to stink it up, so that we can get what we deserve for the investment we made in him. That he chose to go home for a contract that he didn’t deserve, but was stupidly given to him, is his call. He might be playing badly but at least he gets to sleep on a pillow made of cash in his mum’s house. Good for him. 

We all live and die by the choices we make. We chose to spend pick 3 on Jackson and he chose to believe that Freo dumping 5 best 22 players for him wasn’t going to end in tears. 

And by the way, Jackson is a premiership player because he played for Melbourne. Melbourne isn’t a premiership team because of Jackson. Let’s make no mistake about that. 

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Freo needed to explain to Jackson and his family that it would be better both for their list build and his chances of joining a team in contention if he stayed at Melbourne for a few more years.

And it would be better for his development to stay at the Dees and further develop his still raw ruck and key position talent rather than move west now at a high draft and salary cap cost where he would inevitably be under much more pressure when he is nowhere near the finished product that can perform to that cost. Maybe its the player manager role to raise that rather than Freo.

Then if he still says he wants to join Freo its an interesting business decision they face.

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Fremantle Bigfooty board makes for some entertaining light reading. 

Happy to see them stew in their own juice. They have given me the brace'n'bits for years now starting with their constant pestering of Jesse Hogan from the moment he got to us. And when they finally lured him they did more damage to his career than his bung foot did. Would love to see him bag 60 goals for the Giants just to stick it up the Wanchors.

It's a cautionary tale for any young forward. They killed of Cam McCarthy's career and transformed Rory Lobbe from a rising star into a goal a game plodder.

Come to think of it they've given me the brace'n'bits since they tried to nick Stephen Tingay off us. Followed by pinching The Wiz.

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I have no grudge on Jackson going home...but I want them to finish as low as possible to get value from their picks.

As for Jackson, he's now a very highly paid player at the club (By all reports).  But Freo does not have a great record of developing players to come to them from another club.  For some reasons it almost always goes pear shaped. 

Jackson has started the year how he finished the last... well below his potential. His role hasn't really changed between the clubs too much so, 4th years blues?

 

 

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I believed the whole way through last year and will continue to believe that the best possible thing Luke could have done for his career was to sign a two year deal with us, pay his butt off and if he still wanted to go home doing so at that point with a big fat ego contract. This wasn't the right time and he's played it poorly, even if he does become a star and has team success he'll be doing it the hard way now.

Gavin Wanganeen left Essendon at 23 after a Brownlow and a flag. Port made him the inaugural skipper and really struggled with it for years. He regretted the decision, especially when Essendon won again in 2000 and felt he made a mistake. Fortunately he won it with Port in 04 but I hope Luke doesn't wake up one day thinking the same thing. 

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