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[layzie 32,686]

I like the look of Ginbey but don't we have a lot of inside guys just like him?

Edited October 13, 2022 by layzie
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[dazzledavey36 52,640]

Just now, layzie said:

I like the look of Gibney but don't we have a lot of inside guys just like him?

@Pennant St Dee

[jumbo returns 6,703]

16 hours ago, leucopogon said:

Well i hope we pick up a pacy elite ball user since we just traded and delisted probably our three paciest players (Hunt, Bedford, Baker).

Yeah, but not elite...that's why they're gone

[Pennant St Dee 12,643]

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

@Pennant St Dee

Ginbey can play the Hibberd role and that is the role East Perth played him in when he was in their seniors.  2021 he played for East Perth Colts and Wesley College as a rebounding CHB, where he was outstanding. He’s not big enough to be a KPD

It was Woey who moved him into the middle this season for 2 reasons, out of necessity and to show the versatility Rueban has in his game. Woey felt Rueban could eventually be a midfielder and he flourished.  WA ended up putting him in the middle and he has shot up the rankings, but I see an Elliott Yeo type where he will be a half back who can be thrown into the middle if needed.

The kid has many strings to his bow and oozes leadership 

[ChaserJ 4,628]

20 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:

I’m thinking Ginbey won’t be available, West Coast will take him with one of their 2 picks before us.

Do we look towards filling a need for a key tall at this pick

KPD - Lewis Hayes/Busslinger

KPF - Jefferson

I actually wouldn’t mind us taking a punt with this pick on the Vic Metro boy Gruzewski who showed a bit to me in the championships. Another WA boy who will be a little under the radar due to missing a lot of the season with injuries is Ed Allan, he has a high ceiling and could be one who we say how did he not get taken earlier.

Small forward who impacts the scoreboard could also be something we look at Konstanty with that pick.

 Having said all that I was really impressed with Sheezal in the championships and as good as the draft is next year if he’s sitting there at pick 5 do we offer the Hawks pick 13 and next years first and second (bearing in mind we have Freos 1st and 2nd pick) and pick 37 for pick 5 and 24 this year.

Equally intrigued by Gruzewski & Allan @Pennant St Dee.. 

Shame that both spent a decent time out injured, so we really have only seen slices, but what we’ve seen has been pretty good. Gruzewski looks like a great mark and kicks it well (field kicking when playing back was impressive). Would love to have seen him play more forward than back so we could get a greater sample of him as a forward. His marking is very clean.

Those of us outside WA didn’t see much of Allen outside of the final game against SA, but his athletic testing was exceptional. If he’s inherited any of his dad’s footy nous, he could be some player.  Seems well suited to the wing, but at his height, could he play a role in the fwd line?

[Adam The God 29,242]

10 minutes ago, ChaserJ said:

Equally intrigued by Gruzewski & Allan @Pennant St Dee.. 

Shame that both spent a decent time out injured, so we really have only seen slices, but what we’ve seen has been pretty good. Gruzewski looks like a great mark and kicks it well (field kicking when playing back was impressive). Would love to have seen him play more forward than back so we could get a greater sample of him as a forward. His marking is very clean.

Those of us outside WA didn’t see much of Allen outside of the final game against SA, but his athletic testing was exceptional. If he’s inherited any of his dad’s footy nous, he could be some player.  Seems well suited to the wing, but at his height, could he play a role in the fwd line?

Isn't that what the WA teams do to their highly rated local products? 

[Demon Disciple 11,600]

4 hours ago, layzie said:

I like the look of Ginbey but don't we have a lot of inside guys just like him?

He's got the pace and endurance to be more than just an inside mid

[Pennant St Dee 12,643]

1 hour ago, A F said:

Isn't that what the WA teams do to their highly rated local products? 

Can’t anymore, so many of them are in the PSA system now that the schools don’t hide them

[Pennant St Dee 12,643]

2 hours ago, ChaserJ said:

Equally intrigued by Gruzewski & Allan @Pennant St Dee.. 

Shame that both spent a decent time out injured, so we really have only seen slices, but what we’ve seen has been pretty good. Gruzewski looks like a great mark and kicks it well (field kicking when playing back was impressive). Would love to have seen him play more forward than back so we could get a greater sample of him as a forward. His marking is very clean.

Those of us outside WA didn’t see much of Allen outside of the final game against SA, but his athletic testing was exceptional. If he’s inherited any of his dad’s footy nous, he could be some player.  Seems well suited to the wing, but at his height, could he play a role in the fwd line?

Don’t see him as an out and out forward but very much see a Bont, Fyfe, Cripps type mid who creates headaches match up wise when moved forward 

[Constant Mongrel 586]

goal kicking mid thanks

[spirit of norm smith 15,035]

2 hours ago, ChaserJ said:

Gruzewski looks like a great mark and kicks it well (field kicking when playing back was impressive). Would love to have seen him play more forward than back so we could get a greater sample of him as a forward. His marking is very clean.

Ditto. Good hands and a good kick. Gruzewski has the foundation of a very good forward.  His contested marking is a real asset. 

[Supreme_Demon 3,233]

It will certainly be interesting who the Demons pick.

I have faith in Jason Taylor though. He has picked some gems for the Demons over the years.

The MFC recruiting staff usually do one or two "mock drafts" prior to the proper AFL National Draft at the end of November and they are usually 80-90% correct in who they think other AFL clubs will choose.

The eternal question is...at draft pick 13# do you go best talent available or needs base, such as a tall forward? 🤔

Edited October 14, 2022 by Supreme_Demon

[ChaserJ 4,628]

47 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Don’t see him as an out and out forward but very much see a Bont, Fyfe, Cripps type mid who creates headaches match up wise when moved forward 

Not one for pick 13, but what are your thoughts on Darcy Jones @Pennant St Dee? I’ve gone back to some of the Champs games and really like his pace and spark. Small, but looks to have some tricks.

[Pennant St Dee 12,643]

42 minutes ago, ChaserJ said:

Not one for pick 13, but what are your thoughts on Darcy Jones @Pennant St Dee? I’ve gone back to some of the Champs games and really like his pace and spark. Small, but looks to have some tricks.

Coached against Darcy this season and really liked  what I saw. Knows how to find the footy, takes the game on, quick/smart decision maker in congestion. Work rate is exceptional and has the tank to run all day.  He’s taller than Caleb Daniel but reminds me so much of him. I watched Daniel play against WA in his draft year and he was that far ahead of the other players in terms of skill, awareness, decision making and impacting the game it was crazy. At the time all the talk was about him being too small but I hoped he would be taken, Darcy is in the same mould. If he’s best available at 37 I have no issue if we take him 

Edited October 14, 2022 by Pennant St Dee

[ChaserJ 4,628]

Thanks mate, always appreciate your insight. Can definitely see where the Daniel comparison would come from. Pound for pound, Daniel was easily amongst the best in the ‘14 crop.

Jones looks like he can play across all areas of the field as well.

[dazzledavey36 52,640]

My understanding is that the club have had several interviews with Murray Bushranger product in Brayden George. 

They will be up the border over the next few weeks to interview a few Bushie lads as well some potential bush league smokies.

Ollie Holland's another Murray product who boards at Geelong Grammer was also interviewed by the Dees during draft camp and were thoroughly impressed with his maturity and leadership which has been a trait of his since his was a young fella.

I believe they'll conduct a few more interviews with Ollie over the next few weeks.

[spirit of norm smith 15,035]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Ollie Holland's another Murray product who boards at Geelong Grammer was also interviewed by the Dees during draft camp and were thoroughly impressed with his maturity and leadership which has been a trait of his since his was a young fella.

I believe they'll conduct a few more interviews with Ollie over the next few weeks.

Thanks DD36. Hollands would be an excellent pick and suit our future midfield needs. 

[Demon Disciple 11,600]

Anyone know how Brandon George’s knee recovery is progressing? @dazzledavey36

[Grouse 191]

23 hours ago, Supreme_Demon said:

It will certainly be interesting who the Demons pick.

I have faith in Jason Taylor though. He has picked some gems for the Demons over the years.

The MFC recruiting staff usually do one or two "mock drafts" prior to the proper AFL National Draft at the end of November and they are usually 80-90% correct in who they think other AFL clubs will choose.

The eternal question is...at draft pick 13# do you go best talent available or needs base, such as a tall forward? 🤔

I'm about taking needs unless there is a huge discrepancy or slider. At 13 someone like  phillipou would fill a need as a developing forward. If he's gone and there is no other forward rucks we rate then sure take a mid. The problem with that is a mid will almost certainly not play senior footy for two years behind out current talkent and we will then be traded if we have a mid glut. Drafting for needs could result in a kid making a much earlier impact. Think bowey, kozzie or even jvr who will probably debut early second year. That being said, most teams seem to take best available talent. 

[dazzledavey36 52,640]

5 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

Anyone know how Brandon George’s knee recovery is progressing? @dazzledavey36

His recovery is coming along well. Sought out some clubs regarding rehabilitation programs etc.

Won't play next year though.

[WalkingCivilWar 39,256]

On 10/14/2022 at 10:02 AM, spirit of norm smith said:

I’d take the punt on Gruzewski if I had the choice. He just looks AFL capable in the way he is able to take contested marks and his kicking looks smoothe.  Showed his values in helping Lewis Hayes finish the time trial.

Just as important as a player’s on-field skills are his unselfishness and his prioritising of teammates first at all times.

Max helping the Hayes boy finish the race, thereby finishing later than he otherwise would’ve, speaks absolute volumes. It’s that heart thing that we always talk about and look for. 

[monoccular 17,305]

2 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Just as important as a player’s on-field skills are his unselfishness and his prioritising of teammates first at all times.

Max helping the Hayes boy finish the race, thereby finishing later than he otherwise would’ve, speaks absolute volumes. It’s that heart thing that we always talk about and look for. 

A John Landy (or was it Herb Elliot) moment. 

[Roger Mellie 3,856]

14 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

His recovery is coming along well. Sought out some clubs regarding rehabilitation programs etc.

Won't play next year though.

What are your thoughts on him dazzle? I vaguely recall you had some good things to say about him earlier in the year. One of the phantom drafts likens him to Toby Greene.

[Redleg 39,936]

On 10/14/2022 at 7:21 PM, dazzledavey36 said:

My understanding is that the club have had several interviews with Murray Bushranger product in Brayden George. 

 

I may have been onto something when I suggested him for pick 37.

[Thehardtackler 785]

I think if it was a top 5 pick we would take best available. However, our drafting from 6-40 under Taylor sees him taking players that he identifies with certain stand out qualities. Pickett, Oliver, Jordon, Sparrow. I could go on. Other teams did not have those guys so high in the draft but were proven wrong by our drafting. I think we have to be looking for stand out qualities to know who we will take at pick 13.

Edited October 15, 2022 by Thehardtackler