Jump to content

Featured Replies

I'm going to throw up a total hypothetical trade idea without any knowledge of if there is any truth to this. 

Dees: Aaron Naughton

Dogs: Rory Lobb pick 13, Pick 32 

Freo: Luke Jackson

 
6 minutes ago, Dwight Schrute said:

I'm going to throw up a total hypothetical trade idea without any knowledge of if there is any truth to this. 

Dees: Aaron Naughton

Dogs: Rory Lobb pick 13, Pick 32 

Freo: Luke Jackson

200.gif

 

Jackson worth>Naughton worth IMO

(let alone chucking in a 2nd rounder as well)

 

3 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

200.gif

 

Jackson worth>Naughton worth IMO

(let alone chucking in a 2nd rounder as well)

 

I see your point, just don't think the Dogs would even give it a second glance unless we offered overs to be honest. 

his contracted status creates a bit of a headache in terms of getting any trade done, i reckon there is a live possibility they'd say no even if Naughton did request a trade, which is unlikely to happen if it hasn't already 

 
3 minutes ago, Dwight Schrute said:

I see your point, just don't think the Dogs would even give it a second glance unless we offered overs to be honest. 

his contracted status creates a bit of a headache in terms of getting any trade done, i reckon there is a live possibility they'd say no even if Naughton did request a trade, which is unlikely to happen if it hasn't already 

Yep, fair point. I don't really see us having a chance at him barring the long shot of him being one of the players who (apparently) doesn't like the culture and sees a split in the group.

Now, should we still be shopping at the end of 2024, Naughton not re-signed, and Ben Brown finishing up with us.....

 

13 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

200.gif

 

Jackson worth>Naughton worth IMO

(let alone chucking in a 2nd rounder as well)

 

Not a chance. LJ may have potential to become a better player, but that is looking unlikely based on this years performance.  
 

If we could do this trade then I’d take it take and run. However LJ is worth more than 13 and 32.


I’m still trying to get my head around the Dogs pitch to Lobb. They’ve told him that they want him to be their no.1 forward target. I don’t get it.

Just now, CYB said:

Not a chance. LJ may have potential to become a better player, but that is looking unlikely based on this years performance.  
 

If we could do this trade then I’d take it take and run. However LJ is worth more than 13 and 32.

Pick 32 is our pick.

Jackson and 32 for Naughton is clearly overs.

Ok that’s enough for me, I’ll leave you guys to it. 🛌

 

 
5 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Pick 32 is our pick.

Jackson and 32 for Naughton is clearly overs.

Maybe but if we finish up losing Jackson and replacing him with Naughton and Grundy I’d say that’s a pretty good outcome 


37 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

200.gif

 

Jackson worth>Naughton worth IMO

(let alone chucking in a 2nd rounder as well)

 

Your bias is blinding you there, I’d take Naughton as a straight swap for Jackson in a heart beat

LJ big contribution to us being Premiers....worth more than Naughton.

Anyone that wouldn’t take Naughton for Jackson is dead set mental 


Too many on this site have been smokin "Wacky Tabacki" Aaron Naughton to Dees is Alice in Wonderland stuff!

1 hour ago, Demons11 said:

Your bias is blinding you there, I’d take Naughton as a straight swap for Jackson in a heart beat

Sure, with Jackson leaving I'd be happy if Naughton replaced him, but what I said was "worth", and IMO the market worth of Jackson is higher than Naughton.

Of course, you would note that in the trade scenario we'd be trading Jackson AND a 2nd rounder for Naughton.

1 hour ago, Sydee said:

Maybe but if we finish up losing Jackson and replacing him with Naughton and Grundy I’d say that’s a pretty good outcome 

Would need to take in the whole big picture of everything, but yeah absolutely.

1 hour ago, DubDee said:

Anyone that wouldn’t take Naughton for Jackson is dead set mental 

Jackson - Pick 3, Rising Star winner, Premiership player, 20 years old.

Naughton - Pick 9, 22 years old.

I get it, I really want a key forward too and obviously people have 'turned' somewhat on Jackson on Demonland, but you guys are kidding yourselves if you think their worth on the market is the same.


1 hour ago, Lord Nev said:

Pick 32 is our pick.

Jackson and 32 for Naughton is clearly overs.

I would do that deal in a heartbeat. Naughton is a gun and draws a lot of attention from (multiple) defenders and can take an almighty hanger. And he is still young. He can be the main guy whilst we slowly introduce even younger guys like JVR. Allows JVR/Fritter to be 3rd/4th tall next year. 

Surely this rumour is nowhere near the truth though...

1 minute ago, Lord Nev said:

Jackson - Pick 3, Rising Star winner, Premiership player, 20 years old.

Naughton - Pick 9, 22 years old.

I get it, I really want a key forward too and obviously people have 'turned' somewhat on Jackson on Demonland, but you guys are kidding yourselves if you think their worth on the market is the same.

Why does their pick they initially went at matter?

Just now, homsar said:

Why does their pick they initially went at matter?

Given their ages it clearly has an impact, albeit not a main one, on their worth on the trade market.

Again, would love Naughton, be unreal for us, but in terms of trade market worth Jackson would be higher IMO. As good as he is, I don't see any clubs being willing to offer 2 top 10 picks and a million a year for him.

 
Just now, Lord Nev said:

Given their ages it clearly has an impact, albeit not a main one, on their worth on the trade market.

Again, would love Naughton, be unreal for us, but in terms of trade market worth Jackson would be higher IMO. As good as he is, I don't see any clubs being willing to offer 2 top 10 picks and a million a year for him.

Fair enough - we all have different opinions on players. But I maintain the pick they went at initially should have no bearing. That is what he cost us, which has nothing to do with his worth or what others may be willing to spend to get him. If Jackson is a better player (or better potential, or whatever) than Naughton, then that is all that any other club would care about.

1 minute ago, homsar said:

Fair enough - we all have different opinions on players. But I maintain the pick they went at initially should have no bearing. That is what he cost us, which has nothing to do with his worth or what others may be willing to spend to get him. If Jackson is a better player (or better potential, or whatever) than Naughton, then that is all that any other club would care about.

It doesn't eventually, but for 20/22 year old key position players it does IMO (unless they're complete duds).

Where would Jackson go if he was in the draft this year? How about Naughton? Guarantee you 99% of people (outside of those on Demonland who have now turned on him and are desperate for a key forward) would have Jackson going first out of the two.


Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

Featured Content

  • NON-MFC: Round 10

    The Sir Doug Nicholls Round kicks off in Darwin with a Top 4 clash between the Suns and the Hawks. On Friday night the Swans will be seeking to rebound from a challenging start to the season, while the Blues have the Top 8 in their sights after their sluggish start. Saturdays matches kick off with a blockbuster between the Collingwood and Kuwarna with the Magpies looking to maintain their strong form and the Crows aiming to make a statement on the road. The Power face a difficult task to revive their season against a resilient Cats side looking to make amends for their narrow loss last week. The Giants aim to reinforce their top-eight status, while the Dockers will be looking to break the travel hoodoo. The sole Saturday game is a critical matchup for both teams, as the Bulldogs strive to cemet their spot in the top six and the Bombers desperately want break into the 8. Sundays start with a bottom 3 clash between the Tigers and Kangaroos with both teams wanting to avoid the being in wooden spoon contention. The Round concludes with the Eagles still searching for their first win of the season, while the Saints look to keep their finals hopes alive with a crucial away victory. Who are you tipping and what are the best results for the Demons?

      • Thanks
    • 89 replies
    Demonland
  • PREVIEW: Brisbane

    And just like that, we’re Narrm again. Even though the annual AFL Sir Doug Nicholls Round which commemorates the contributions of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander culture to our game has been a welcome addition to our calendar for ten years, more lately it has been a portent of tough times ahead for we beleaguered Narrm supporters. Ever since the club broke through for its historic 2021 premiership, this has become a troubling time of the year for the club. For example, it all began when Melbourne rebranded itself as Narrm across the two rounds of the Sir Doug Nicholls Round to become the first club to adopt an Indigenous club name especially for the occasion. It won its first outing under the brand against lowly North Melbourne to go to 10 wins and no losses but not without a struggle or a major injury to  star winger Ed Langdon who broke his ribs and missed several weeks. In the following week, still as Narrm, the team’s 17 game winning streak came to an end at the hands of the Dockers. That came along with more injuries, a plague that remained with them for the remainder of the season until, beset by injuries, the Dees were eliminated from the finals in straight sets. It was even worse last year, when Narrm inexplicably lowered its colours in Perth to the Waalit Marawar Eagles. Oh, the shame of it all! At least this year, if there is a corner to turn around, it has to be in the direction of something better. To that end, I produced a special pre-game chant in the local Narrm language - “nam mi:wi winnamun katjil prolin ambi ngamar thamelin amb” which roughly translated is “every heart beats true for the red and the blue.” >y belief is that if all of the Narrm faithful recite it long enough, then it might prove to be the only way to beat the Brisbane Lions at the Gabba on Sunday. The Lions are coming off a disappointing draw at Marvel Stadium against a North Melbourne team that lacks the ability and know how to win games (except when playing Melbourne). Brisbane are, however, a different kettle of fish at home and have very few positional weaknesses. They are a midfield powerhouse, strong in defence and have plenty of forward options, particularly their small and medium sized players, to kick a winning score this week after the sting of last week’s below par performance.

      • Clap
      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 11 replies
    Demonland
  • REPORT: Hawthorn

    There was a time during the current Melbourne cycle that goes back to before the premiership when the club was the toughest to beat in the fourth quarter. The Demons were not only hard to beat at any time but it was virtually impossible to get the better them when scores were close at three quarter time. It was only three or four years ago but they were fit, strong and resilient in body and mind. Sadly, those days are over. This has been the case since the club fell off its pedestal about 12 months ago after it beat Geelong and then lost to Carlton. In both instances, Melbourne put together strong, stirring final quarters, one that resulted in victory, the other, in defeat. Since then, the drop off has been dramatic to the point where it can neither pull off victory in close matches, nor can it even go down in defeat  gallantly.

      • Clap
      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 1 reply
    Demonland
  • CASEY: Footscray

    At twenty-four minutes into the third term of the game between the Casey Demons and Footscray VFL at Whitten Oval, the visitors were coasting. They were winning all over the ground, had the ascendancy in the ruck battles and held a 26 point lead on a day perfect for football. What could go wrong? Everything. The Bulldogs moved into overdrive in the last five minutes of the term and booted three straight goals to reduce the margin to a highly retrievable eight points at the last break. Bouyed by that effort, their confidence was on a high level during the interval and they ran all over the despondent Demons and kicked another five goals to lead by a comfortable margin of four goals deep into the final term before Paddy Cross kicked a couple of too late goals for a despondent Casey. A testament to their lack of pressure in the latter stages of the game was the fact that Footscray’s last ten scoring shots were nine goals and one rushed behind. Things might have been different for the Demons who went into the game after last week’s bye with 12 AFL listed players. Blake Howes was held over for the AFL game but two others, Jack Billings and Taj Woewodin (not officially listed as injured) were also missing and they could have been handy at the end. Another mystery of the current VFL system.

      • Thanks
    • 0 replies
    Demonland
  • PREGAME: Brisbane

    The Demons head back out on the road in Round 10 when they travel to Queensland to take on the reigning Premiers and the top of the table Lions who look very formidable. Can the Dees cause a massive upset? Who comes in and who goes out?

      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 278 replies
    Demonland
  • PODCAST: Hawthorn

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 12th May @ 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we dissect the Demons loss to the Hawks. Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show. If you would like to leave us a voicemail please call 03 9016 3666 and don't worry no body answers so you don't have to talk to a human.

      • Clap
      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 53 replies
    Demonland