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The only change I could see is Salem in for one of Spargo or ANB. 
Bowser played a great defensive game. Watched the replay and couldn’t believe his tackles, ferocious for a little fella. 
Salem has been poor defensively, might be better half forward. 

 
On 8/20/2022 at 8:02 PM, Redleg said:

So we drop Stevic, as he caused the last one, overruling the umpire standing a few metres away, who paid a free for a dangerous tackle.

It was a blatant mistake by Stevic who said Rivers held the ball. Wrong, a dangerous tackle is not a legal one and he should have kept his whistle  out if it.

Stevic had plenty of possessions but needs to stop targeting Gawn and Jackson. Plus every single disposal was a 50/50 allowing the opposition ruckman a chance.

Combine this with the howler you mentioned above and I think you are right and we should drop Stevic. 

Salem would be the obvious replacement as his disposal is so much better

6 hours ago, picket fence said:

Could Bowser play Spargo's role??

No,  have to train for that and learn the running patterns and fwd set up.

first week of finals isn't the time to try that,  and whilst Bowie is a nice kick, Spargo is just as good and exceptionally good going inside 50.  I know he has been a little down but id back him in to turn it around.

 
11 hours ago, bluey said:

Salem must come in, Melksham will be the unlucky one.

Salem will be un available for this match according to my mail

Wow there are some absolute clangers in this thread. Bowey forward? Drop melk for Salem? Gee whiz guys, finals are not the time for experimentation. 

No change 


5 hours ago, Deenooos_ said:

And, we were loading…

Unless you’re being facetious, Sydney would have also had an elevated regime too. They were just better than us. Reid got a hold of a backline without May and we never looked like kicking a score without Gawn being in the square.

7 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Unless you’re being facetious, Sydney would have also had an elevated regime too. They were just better than us. Reid got a hold of a backline without May and we never looked like kicking a score without Gawn being in the square.

No I'm not and yes I agree but you can't compare our regime to theirs when they were 6-4 after 10 rounds and we were 10-0. I doubt they were doing anywhere near the amount of work that we were at the time.

Anyway it was at a time where multiple players were banged up anyway especially our backline.

7 minutes ago, Deenooos_ said:

No I'm not and yes I agree but you can't compare our regime to theirs when they were 6-4 after 10 rounds and we were 10-0. I doubt they were doing anywhere near the amount of work that we were at the time.

Anyway it was at a time where multiple players were banged up anyway especially our backline.

Yes, we're the only club with a sophisticated loading regime. You've been brainwashed.

 
24 minutes ago, mo64 said:

Yes, we're the only club with a sophisticated loading regime. You've been brainwashed.

And you're ignorant. You think Collingwood has loaded the same way we have? No way.

4 minutes ago, Deenooos_ said:

And you're ignorant. You think Collingwood has loaded the same way we have? No way.

Not loading at training. But 10+ games Infront of ave 50-60k supporters in games under 10 points is a special kind of loading I've never seen before. They won't doubt themselves in any situation. Very dangerous and a chance to pinch one


16 minutes ago, Deenooos_ said:

And you're ignorant. You think Collingwood has loaded the same way we have? No way.

What's your background in this field? Just admit that you have no idea of how clubs conduct their loading. You're guessing to support your narrative. And you also don't know how much loading impacts results, if any.

You need to pick your best fit players… Salem is a top 10 player. He needs to come in for either ANB, spargo, bowey or sparrow 

No chance of Melksham out, he’s our third most dangerous forward.

Sparrow and ANB are defensive beasts, don’t get caught up in stats here. Positioning and work rate does not appear on the stats sheet.

I’d say the only chance is JJ out as sub, and Salem/Bowey being the sub.

7 minutes ago, mo64 said:

What's your background in this field? Just admit that you have no idea of how clubs conduct their loading. You're guessing to support your narrative. And you also don't know how much loading impacts results, if any.

You're clearly in denial. I admit I have no background in the field but have done a lot of reading and there have been so many intelligent posts by many posters in the "loading" thread explaining how significant this is especially for sports involving the amount of running that the AFL does, or specifically how dependent our gameplan is on gut running.

The fact that you're still disputing the fact that loading has any significant impact on results simply tells me you are unwilling to accept it no matter the evidence.

I'll be waiting for you to give me any reasonable explanation for the obvious drop off in our performances around either side of the bye this and last year that has nothing to do with fitness and why we looked a different team come finals than in the middle of the season.

Salem hasn’t been fit all year, wouldn’t surprise me if we don’t see him again for the rest of 2022.

He’s a star, but his knee has clearly been holding him back.


53 minutes ago, bandicoot said:

You need to pick your best fit players… Salem is a top 10 player. He needs to come in for either ANB, spargo, bowey or sparrow 

Yes but Salem isnt fit Right?

 

45 minutes ago, Deenooos_ said:

You're clearly in denial. I admit I have no background in the field but have done a lot of reading and there have been so many intelligent posts by many posters in the "loading" thread explaining how significant this is especially for sports involving the amount of running that the AFL does, or specifically how dependent our gameplan is on gut running.

The fact that you're still disputing the fact that loading has any significant impact on results simply tells me you are unwilling to accept it no matter the evidence.

I'll be waiting for you to give me any reasonable explanation for the obvious drop off in our performances around either side of the bye this and last year that has nothing to do with fitness and why we looked a different team come finals than in the middle of the season.

There is no evidence. It's all conjecture and opinion. I'll leave it at that. 

Save your loading posts for the appropriate thread.

Salem comes in. Someone goes out. 
JJ is sub. 
Close thread. 

2 hours ago, Deenooos_ said:

No I'm not and yes I agree but you can't compare our regime to theirs when they were 6-4 after 10 rounds and we were 10-0. I doubt they were doing anywhere near the amount of work that we were at the time.

Anyway it was at a time where multiple players were banged up anyway especially our backline.

I came down for that game and we did struggle in the backline - and we were clearly sluggish - most likely for our loading being at its zenith before the bye. My main point is that we can assume similar for Sydney and so it is difficult to draw much from that or the game itself. It was one of the first games that illustrated that we were not going inside 50 too well, which has come up a few times since.

Again, how much you draw from that game is up to the beholder.


44 minutes ago, Kent said:

Yes but Salem isnt fit Right?

 

Slight groin tightness two weeks to recover 

14 hours ago, bluey said:

Salem must come in, Melksham will be the unlucky one.

On the contrary Melksham's resurgence in form will give the opposition something to think about which they wouldn't have been worried about several weeks ago 

47 minutes ago, mo64 said:

There is no evidence. It's all conjecture and opinion. I'll leave it at that. 

Save your loading posts for the appropriate thread.

To each their own. You didn't have to respond to me but did, maybe don't respond if you don't like it.

You should consider reading it and opening up to the idea. It may spare you of some of your MFCss that we have lost our "hunger" like it has mine and others. Just a suggestion though

Edited by Deenooos_

 

We need to be aware of umpires allowing play to go on without stoppages or frees, when they can see that a team, in this case mostly Collingwood, it seems, is going to extraordinary even ferocious efforts to extract the ball and play on where the opponent in this case Carlton is stopped and expecting a ball up. Guess who gets the ball to advantage and goals..

Melksham has re energised our insync forward movement and potency.


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