On 6/16/2023 at 10:45 AM, Lord Travis said:

Seems like a horrible draft this year due to the amount of potential top 20 players tied to academy and other bids. Also a few Tassie boys, which clubs will be hesitant to draft high due to the AFL flipping the bill to send them down to the new Tassie team in a few years.

If that predicted top 20 a few posts back is roughly accurate, that's 7 out of the first 20 players compromised in a way. Trading up to get Reid or someone else we've got our eye on is probably the right tactic, or potentially trading out of this years draft to get a swag of first rounders for next years draft if there's less bid related players. Thoughts?

I thought academy players were only from Pick 20? Didnt we miss out Mac Andrew as a result of this?

40 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I have said it before, but I see GWS getting Reid and giving both first rounders and also players to the Eagles.

The Eagles could turn pick 1 into Curtin and another WA player and also get 2 best 22 experienced AFL players form the Giants. 

That would go a long way to kick starting their revival.

They could then trade a player for more picks, added to the rest of their picks.

If GWS finish higher than Freo, we have full control as we can use it to snare Curtain and hence get WCE to deal with us exclusively. 

GWS are in a position to push for finals, and Freo have a much tougher draw so it is likely the outcome.  

17 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

I thought academy players were only from Pick 20? Didnt we miss out Mac Andrew as a result of this?

I am pretty sure Next Gen and Northern academies have different rules.

 

Next Gen (Mac Andrews) are outside pick 40 (i think). As where Northern academy(Heeney/Tom Green) and Father Sons can be matched anywhere. 

 

Northern Academies include Suns, Lions, Swans & Giants. 

On 6/14/2023 at 10:05 PM, A F said:

Was speaking to a Collingwood VFL player today who is good mates with Nick Watson. Reckons he'll be an absolute gun, despite being a messy user of the ball.

He also said Dursma will be the best player in this crop.

Take that with a grain of salt. Found it interesting as this bloke has grown up with both of them. 

So he is going to be a gun despite being a messy user of the ball.

?

Trying to get my head around that.

Would prefer a very good player who is clean.

20 minutes ago, CatFishPig said:

I am pretty sure Next Gen and Northern academies have different rules.

 

Next Gen (Mac Andrews) are outside pick 40 (i think). As where Northern academy(Heeney/Tom Green) and Father Sons can be matched anywhere. 

 

Northern Academies include Suns, Lions, Swans & Giants. 

Pick 40 was the ultimate ruling matching academy players, but it was a gradual transition from no rule, to Pick 20+ to then Pick 40+. I thought it was a league wide ruling - which is shocking if it is not.  

I for one am glad we were unable to match any bid for Mac Andrews. As we wouldn't have JVR.

1 hour ago, Gawndy the Great said:

I thought academy players were only from Pick 20? Didnt we miss out Mac Andrew as a result of this?

There is something in the rules that only 2 bids can be matched in the first round, i understand GCS have 3 such players likely to be first rounders this year, so can only match 2 if that happens.

17 minutes ago, CatFishPig said:

I for one am glad we were unable to match any bid for Mac Andrews. As we wouldn't have JVR.

Would be happy to get JVR's brother for a later pick and have the 2 brothers here together.

33 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said:

There is something in the rules that only 2 bids can be matched in the first round, i understand GCS have 3 such players likely to be first rounders this year, so can only match 2 if that happens.

2 if they make finals, 3 if they don’t

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

Would be happy to get JVR's brother for a later pick and have the 2 brothers here together.

If he's worthy of the pick and worthy only... 

On 6/19/2023 at 9:09 AM, layzie said:

03 😄 and yourself?

'18 😅

11 minutes ago, Turner said:

'18 😅

Argh ya youngin 😝

16 hours ago, JimmyGadson said:

If he's worthy of the pick and worthy only... 

He’s dropped off of late after a good start to the season. Like most of the WA boys was very poor against the Allies, don’t expect he’ll be named for WA’s second game 

18 hours ago, Redleg said:

Would be happy to get JVR's brother for a later pick and have the 2 brothers here together.

If we keep and use our 2 x 1sts and 2 x 2nds, and if we take K Brown with a later pick, I'd say that's more than enough for this draft. Usually clubs in the window don't turn over too many on the list in one go. I believe there's also one or two in our academy that could go late

Taylor and Lamb might shop around our picks to move up. And Freo could realistically deliver us pick 4, especially with their terrible %. Will certainly be an interesting couple of weeks, that's for sure!

Edited June 20, 20232 yr by Stiff Arm

Bit of commentary on how the depth of this years crop is looking ATM:

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/06/23/draft-experts-give-first-indication-into-quality-of-2023-class/

52 minutes ago, ChaserJ said:

Bit of commentary on how the depth of this years crop is looking ATM:

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/06/23/draft-experts-give-first-indication-into-quality-of-2023-class/

The famed 2023 super draft was overblown. Fancy that.

Just as well we have JT.

I'm sure they'll be saying the same things about the 2024 draft. As they do every year.

Every year is a so called super draft.

18 minutes ago, A F said:

The famed 2023 super draft was overblown. Fancy that.

Just as well we have JT.

I'm sure they'll be saying the same things about the 2024 draft. As they do every year.

Every year is a so called super draft.

Matt Rendall is an ex-recruiter (made redundant by Collingwood) and is trying to stay relevant. 

I'm not sure him saying 'this is not a super draft' means that it's not. It's one opinion. 

Even Cal Twomey was rightly questioning him on how early he is writing it off. 

The bloke is a nonce. 

If you draft well, every year can be a super draft

Latest rankings from Rookie Me Draft Central: 

https://central.rookieme.com/afl/power-rankings/afl-draft-power-rankings-june-2023/

In other news, Doggies will take another Key Position Forward FS in Jordon Croft. They are a little top heavy and may look to trade one of their key talls out while they still have currency. But they’ll likely have to move Naughton to the backline to keep them all in the same team.

Naughton, Darcy, JUH, English, Lobb. 

Some serious KP talent there.

Would love to grab Nate Caddy this year. Different to Jefferson and Roo (only 192cm) he’s kicking goals and getting big numbers in the midfield too. Unique player! 

Draft talent wrap from Foxsports:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-prospects-2023-order-rankings-west-coast-pick-1-harley-reid-daniel-curtin-koltyn-tholstrup-nate-caddy-stars/news-story/aa4b1bef53fc9c2cf56d3962b8c947f9

Ryley Sanders and Darcy Wilson might fall around Freo's first pick. Any thoughts on them? I'm in the 'we need more mids' camp.

5 minutes ago, Roger Mellie said:

Ryley Sanders and Darcy Wilson might fall around Freo's first pick. Any thoughts on them? I'm in the 'we need more mids' camp.

are they inside-outside or one particular 'type' of midfielder?

pup brown will come into the squad next year and be another inside player for us

I’m in the same camp (we need midfielders - or at least one to pick up the baton from Oliver & Petracca). Wilson gives us a ball user with flair and creativity. More outside at this stage, can play in the forward line. He has what we lack in creativity and ball use (has pace as well). There are some questions on his work in the contest, but I like him. Will be hard for him to push up inside the top 8 or so, which is starting to firm up, but if he shows improvement in the contest, could do it.

Sanders has been excellent this season, possibly the best inside mid in this years crop. Bit of an Oliver Wines type, does his best work inside, hasn’t shown a tonne in other areas of the ground. From Tassie, so some will have questions whether that’s a potential retention issue down the track, but he relocated to Vic for school last year, maybe not so big an issue. Would have to bide his time for a midfield spot with us, would like to have seen him show some positional flexibility for that reason.

Edited June 27, 20232 yr by ChaserJ